| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out 23:26 - Nov 9 with 38920 views | Markofthegrove |
I'll start by saying, this is not my forum usually. But the artist formally known as Twitter has become an echo chamber of monstrous proportion.
Nourry needs to be removed from his post ASAP before he can do any more damage, there is a vandalism of our club happening and it needs to stop immediately.
But how do we do it? I feel like fans and supporters groups have been weak for a long time now. There were some great folk back when we are in administration that were with QPR 1st.
I've heard rumours of some stuff happening, but it needs to be coordinated and it needs to happen ASAP.
I'd honestly be close to being done with QPR if they sack Marti who is the only bloody good thing about this club right now.
Someone needs to bring this together, protests for protests sake do not work. It needs to have purpose, be targeted and ask the right questions and have the right people involved. |  | | |  |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:08 - Nov 13 with 3693 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 10:45 - Nov 13 by G_Ottershaw |
if a 26yr old with little or no experience, has been sharp enough to walk his way into the position of a ceo at a significant football club, i suspect he already knows employment law inside and out and would be very expensive or very difficult to get rid of.
As a compromise, the owners need to be encouraged to create a new role removing some of the responsibilities that currently fall within his role. |
That would likely amount to constructive dismissal, albeit he'd need 2 years continuous employment. I suppose he could claim breach of contract.
We don't know what his contract says regarding termination/notice etc. if he's employed as a consultant, emploee, but I'd wager we made things easier for Kim Jung, and had unfastened our trousers before getting down to the nitty gritty. [Post edited 13 Nov 11:13]
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:11 - Nov 13 with 3659 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 10:20 - Nov 13 by terryb |
I readily admit to being happy with the summer transfer window as I knew nothing about the players, so I had no reason to question them. I also assumed that Marti would have approved of their signings, but I now have very big doubts about that.
That is, until I saw them playing for Rangers! Two of our signings might even displace Karl Elsey & Brian Williams in my all time Rangers team. That is something that I thought was impossible.
I don't understand the idea that we would be ok if we hadn't suffered all of our injuries. Better than we are? Yes, that I can accept & we probably wouldn't have conceded as many goals. We wouldn't have scored many more, although Frey possibly might have a couple more consolation goals to his name.
We have a better goalscorer on loan at Orient than we have available at Rangers. No, I'm not sugesting that Charlie Kelman is the answer to our attacking problems!
Would there be all this if we were 16th? Probably not, but we've not beeen close to that position since Nourry arrived as a consultant/CEO & many a poster has questioned our board/owners for at least 10 years. I personally, lost all respect for them after the appointment of Harold in 2012.
To some extent I thought it might be better with Ruben as the top man, but his choices of who to employ/trust have been just as bewildering as Tony's were! |
“I don't understand the idea that we would be ok if we hadn't suffered all of our injuries”
We’ve badly missed JCS, Paal, Colback and Frey and a remotely fit Chair. Not just because what they offer but we wouldn’t have been forced to play others who are nowhere near as good as them (normally out of position). Our summer signings have been overall very disappointing and the decision to have just two strikers is ridiculous but with a small squad lacking in experience the injuries have decimated us. |  | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:12 - Nov 13 with 3639 views | wombat |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 10:58 - Nov 13 by Mole_Senior |
You're spot on Brain.
I was very fortunate to work for the club during the administration days. Bizarre comment I know, but despite all the financial woes, I can't emphasise enough how 'together' the club was; right from the cleaners, ticket office, club shop and marketing team all the way up to the playing staff. Everyone knew what the objective was, communication was transparent, those in high roles were approachable and that feeling and camaraderie filtered through to the players who did the business under Holloway.
Nourry is only here to further his CV and sorry to use the phrase, but is a serious cancer within the club. Unless he is removed quick smart, we have a MAJOR issue on our hands as it won't get better in League 1 and then League 2  |
funny nobody has mentioned reilly in this who are involved , is he part of the issue at the club as well ?, he came in when we was flying under MW and thought his quick cheap investment was going to pay dividends we ll know how that ended up , ive also heard things in the past that he wasnt the best influence within the club when he joined, how much say is he having these days ? is he in the nourry camp?
the buck lays firmly with ruben to make changes being majorty shareholder whos reporting back to im on the stuff behind the scenes is he even aware ? of how bad it is . |  |
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:35 - Nov 13 with 3444 views | Lblock |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 23:18 - Nov 12 by Northolt_Rs |
Amit brought in Ainsworth remember? |
"he’s also been party to some bloody poor decisions when he was more active"
I remember.
We won the League under him and he came across as the most sensible fella in the circus in The Four Year Plan..... remember?
I've met the fella twice, very briefly, my first impressions were that he was a man I'd work for and was focused.
Galaxies apart from what followed him. |  |
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:42 - Nov 13 with 3404 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:35 - Nov 13 by Lblock |
"he’s also been party to some bloody poor decisions when he was more active"
I remember.
We won the League under him and he came across as the most sensible fella in the circus in The Four Year Plan..... remember?
I've met the fella twice, very briefly, my first impressions were that he was a man I'd work for and was focused.
Galaxies apart from what followed him. |
A former neighbour of mine organised events for him, including the wedding, and couldn't sing his praises loud enough and described him as a class act from start to finish.
Said Amit was gutted to leave QPR first time round, and upon his return was confident he'd sort us out. Seems like we QPR'd Amit in the end.
I assume his pushing for Gaz was the hope that it would be Warnock 2.0. | |
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 12:00 - Nov 13 with 3291 views | 1JD |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:42 - Nov 13 by PlanetHonneywood |
A former neighbour of mine organised events for him, including the wedding, and couldn't sing his praises loud enough and described him as a class act from start to finish.
Said Amit was gutted to leave QPR first time round, and upon his return was confident he'd sort us out. Seems like we QPR'd Amit in the end.
I assume his pushing for Gaz was the hope that it would be Warnock 2.0. |
That was exactly the thinking by Amit. | | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 12:54 - Nov 13 with 3102 views | GroveR |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 10:58 - Nov 13 by Mole_Senior |
You're spot on Brain.
I was very fortunate to work for the club during the administration days. Bizarre comment I know, but despite all the financial woes, I can't emphasise enough how 'together' the club was; right from the cleaners, ticket office, club shop and marketing team all the way up to the playing staff. Everyone knew what the objective was, communication was transparent, those in high roles were approachable and that feeling and camaraderie filtered through to the players who did the business under Holloway.
Nourry is only here to further his CV and sorry to use the phrase, but is a serious cancer within the club. Unless he is removed quick smart, we have a MAJOR issue on our hands as it won't get better in League 1 and then League 2 |
The three words that resonate in this are "communication was transparent."
In every substantive way, the club has gone out of the way this season to restrict and filter information, whether that be financially (transfers, contract lengths), operationally (who's fit to play and when anyone isn't will be fit, access to the coaching staff) or organisationally (who works here and what they do). Northern's already made this point but it's worth repeating - if you burn this credit when things are going well, it'll bite you on the bum when they inevitably go wrong.
For those who've said "yeah but a couple of wins and this will all be forgotten" - it won't. We might have been most successful (relatively) under Briatore but I'll never forgive him the sneering contempt he held us all in.
It seems Nourry has been told all this and either won't listen or doesn't care. With a bit of foreplay from him over the summer we might still be bottom and shìt but I doubt the atmosphere would be as toxic as it is amongst the support. [Post edited 13 Nov 13:04]
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 13:55 - Nov 13 with 2920 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 12:54 - Nov 13 by GroveR |
The three words that resonate in this are "communication was transparent."
In every substantive way, the club has gone out of the way this season to restrict and filter information, whether that be financially (transfers, contract lengths), operationally (who's fit to play and when anyone isn't will be fit, access to the coaching staff) or organisationally (who works here and what they do). Northern's already made this point but it's worth repeating - if you burn this credit when things are going well, it'll bite you on the bum when they inevitably go wrong.
For those who've said "yeah but a couple of wins and this will all be forgotten" - it won't. We might have been most successful (relatively) under Briatore but I'll never forgive him the sneering contempt he held us all in.
It seems Nourry has been told all this and either won't listen or doesn't care. With a bit of foreplay from him over the summer we might still be bottom and shìt but I doubt the atmosphere would be as toxic as it is amongst the support. [Post edited 13 Nov 13:04]
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It’s toxic with a small section of the support: a relatively low number of people on forums, Facebook and X demanding all and sundry are removed are not a microcosm of the general fanbase.
Results counts and the Stoke game will swing it I think: beat them and the mood lifts (whether some like it or not), lose and everyone (including Cifuentes and the players) will be getting dogs abuse. | | | |
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 14:12 - Nov 13 with 2825 views | LongRanger |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 13:55 - Nov 13 by Ned_Kennedys |
It’s toxic with a small section of the support: a relatively low number of people on forums, Facebook and X demanding all and sundry are removed are not a microcosm of the general fanbase.
Results counts and the Stoke game will swing it I think: beat them and the mood lifts (whether some like it or not), lose and everyone (including Cifuentes and the players) will be getting dogs abuse. |
I hate the idea that fans are that superficial. We could beat Stoke by 5 and I'd still be calling for Nourry to go asap.
Someone who has a terminal illness, doesn't forget about it just because they have a good day.
Nourry is a poison that needs to be removed, whatever the results. | | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 14:37 - Nov 13 with 2755 views | Northernr |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 12:54 - Nov 13 by GroveR |
The three words that resonate in this are "communication was transparent."
In every substantive way, the club has gone out of the way this season to restrict and filter information, whether that be financially (transfers, contract lengths), operationally (who's fit to play and when anyone isn't will be fit, access to the coaching staff) or organisationally (who works here and what they do). Northern's already made this point but it's worth repeating - if you burn this credit when things are going well, it'll bite you on the bum when they inevitably go wrong.
For those who've said "yeah but a couple of wins and this will all be forgotten" - it won't. We might have been most successful (relatively) under Briatore but I'll never forgive him the sneering contempt he held us all in.
It seems Nourry has been told all this and either won't listen or doesn't care. With a bit of foreplay from him over the summer we might still be bottom and shìt but I doubt the atmosphere would be as toxic as it is amongst the support. [Post edited 13 Nov 13:04]
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Communication, communication, communication.
I've been banging this drum from the moment he got here. Go back and read what I said on the transfer rumours thread in the summer, it's all coming to pass unfortunately. So many of the problems have grown out of this.
Mark Warburton and Ian Holloway both went on long, long losing runs here. Multiple times. Holloway survived three different spells of 6 defeats in a row. First time around he survived two different autumns where we didn't win at all, including one where we got beaten by a car factory.
A huge part of that was the way they communicated with us.
Warburton did every podcast, did every interview you asked of him. He could be prickly, really prickly, but he was straight with you, he answered like a grown up, he treated you with respect, and once the mic was off he'd tell you three or four things he was up against. It meant you were minded to like him, wanted him to do well, minded to give him the benefit of the doubt. |  | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:07 - Nov 13 with 2613 views | KensalT |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 14:37 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
Communication, communication, communication.
I've been banging this drum from the moment he got here. Go back and read what I said on the transfer rumours thread in the summer, it's all coming to pass unfortunately. So many of the problems have grown out of this.
Mark Warburton and Ian Holloway both went on long, long losing runs here. Multiple times. Holloway survived three different spells of 6 defeats in a row. First time around he survived two different autumns where we didn't win at all, including one where we got beaten by a car factory.
A huge part of that was the way they communicated with us.
Warburton did every podcast, did every interview you asked of him. He could be prickly, really prickly, but he was straight with you, he answered like a grown up, he treated you with respect, and once the mic was off he'd tell you three or four things he was up against. It meant you were minded to like him, wanted him to do well, minded to give him the benefit of the doubt. |
If I recall correctly, the owners did say at the September 2023 Fans Forum that they had been "too open" in the past and would be doing things differently.
I don't think anyone asked exactly what that would mean.
I guess we know now!
Clearly things have gone too far the other way and risks losing the goodwill of the fans (not to mention our small army of journalists, podders, bloggers, poets, musicians, performance artists, and god knows what else).
Clearly the current policy is not fit for purpose.
Alienating/dismissing/patronising the fans when you're bottom of the table isn't a smart move. And you shouldn't need a degree from Oxford to realise that!
The club needs to find a better balance for managing its information. Otherwise Uncle Albert's next visit to Loftus Road will be in a Walsall shirt! | | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:11 - Nov 13 with 2587 views | KensalT |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 11:08 - Nov 13 by PlanetHonneywood |
That would likely amount to constructive dismissal, albeit he'd need 2 years continuous employment. I suppose he could claim breach of contract.
We don't know what his contract says regarding termination/notice etc. if he's employed as a consultant, emploee, but I'd wager we made things easier for Kim Jung, and had unfastened our trousers before getting down to the nitty gritty. [Post edited 13 Nov 11:13]
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The CEO is the most important and powerful individual at any organisation on a day-to-day basis.
As such their employment contracts usually come with lengthy notice periods.
I would be very surprised if his notice period was less than three months. | | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:27 - Nov 13 with 2483 views | daveB |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 13:55 - Nov 13 by Ned_Kennedys |
It’s toxic with a small section of the support: a relatively low number of people on forums, Facebook and X demanding all and sundry are removed are not a microcosm of the general fanbase.
Results counts and the Stoke game will swing it I think: beat them and the mood lifts (whether some like it or not), lose and everyone (including Cifuentes and the players) will be getting dogs abuse. |
It will be a temporary lift though, results do help and calm things down but the problems won't go away if we win that game |  | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:28 - Nov 13 with 2476 views | Hunterhoop |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:11 - Nov 13 by KensalT |
The CEO is the most important and powerful individual at any organisation on a day-to-day basis.
As such their employment contracts usually come with lengthy notice periods.
I would be very surprised if his notice period was less than three months. |
It’ll be at least 6 months, and possibly a year. |  | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:45 - Nov 13 with 2399 views | KensalT |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:28 - Nov 13 by Hunterhoop |
It’ll be at least 6 months, and possibly a year. |
Given his age and experience, I think more than six months would be excessive.
I always assumed Hoos was kept onboard partly to mentor Nourry, but also in case Nourry didn't work out and a stop gap was needed at short notice.
But Hoos cited family reasons for stepping back, and he might be unwilling to be CEO again, even on an interim basis.
And if Hoos were reluctant to be CEO again, that might make Nourry very difficult to shift. | | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 17:37 - Nov 13 with 2179 views | TheChef |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:45 - Nov 13 by KensalT |
Given his age and experience, I think more than six months would be excessive.
I always assumed Hoos was kept onboard partly to mentor Nourry, but also in case Nourry didn't work out and a stop gap was needed at short notice.
But Hoos cited family reasons for stepping back, and he might be unwilling to be CEO again, even on an interim basis.
And if Hoos were reluctant to be CEO again, that might make Nourry very difficult to shift. |
Gardening leave / pay him off early. And the club loses even more money.
God we're such a sh1tshow. |  |
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 18:03 - Nov 13 with 2078 views | aston_hoop |
Elsewhere in the Retexo-sphere, Roma are about to appoint 900 year old manager Claudio Ranieri as their 3rd boss of the season. The data made them do it. Probably |  |
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 18:04 - Nov 13 with 2074 views | daveB |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 15:45 - Nov 13 by KensalT |
Given his age and experience, I think more than six months would be excessive.
I always assumed Hoos was kept onboard partly to mentor Nourry, but also in case Nourry didn't work out and a stop gap was needed at short notice.
But Hoos cited family reasons for stepping back, and he might be unwilling to be CEO again, even on an interim basis.
And if Hoos were reluctant to be CEO again, that might make Nourry very difficult to shift. |
Is Hoos even in the country anymore? | | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 18:25 - Nov 13 with 1961 views | GosportHoops |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 10:30 - Nov 10 by bosh67 |
Okay, so conversely, Nourry came in last year, made the right management decisions, brought in the right players and it all looked good. He got rid of Dozzell to let us get in Hayden and Hayden saved the season. In close season I didn't hear too many fans screaming when Dembele, Saito, Morrison, Nardi, Madsen, Varane and Cesar joined. Perhaps a few questioned getting Varane over Hayden and why we seemed hellbent on offloading Paal but there are always going to be questions. Everyone thought selling Armstrong (with a follow on fee) and Dykes for a combined £3.5m+ was good business.
I'd argue that so far, despite the dismal season that Nardi and Saito have looked like good signings. Madsen and Cesar have been very disappointing so far. Dembele, Morrison and Varane almost too early to tell, with two out of the 3 out a lot and Varane missing 3 games to a red. Also hard to judge in a severely weakened side.
Is Nourry to blame for JCS, Chair, Frey, Paal (who stayed and looked fine), Colback, Dembele, Kolli and Fox all being out for extended periods? Take JCS, Paal, Chair, Frey, Colback out and the team is severely weakened. That's more to do with what we can afford in terms of cover for the squad rather than anything else.
Obviously the stat led buys and loans this season seem to have largely backfired and perhaps we missed a few tricks including not investing in division safety with Hayden (who may have also got injured) and possibly we would have been better getting Langstaff as a forward, although he has only scored 1 in 12 for Millwall so far.
My argument is that squad depth and our recruitment strategy have been the obvious issues. Not having a 3rd experienced at EFL level forward and not disclosing deal lengths have all been errors. The club is run on a show string and that hasn't changed. What Nourry inherited hasn't changed. The club has been hamstrung since the massive fine and has done well not to go under.
Belk for me is far more culpable than Nourry and perhaps he needs to swing the axe there or appoint a far more crass roots approach to finding players here in the UK rather than looking abroad.
But the reason we sit rock bottom is more to do with losing the spine of the team to extended injuries and just not having the depth of squad to then compensate. We don't have a magic money tree. It's a culmination of all the mistakes Fernandes's era left us in. So we can slaughter Nourry for some mistakes or just realise that we are here because of bad mismanagement from an owner who is no longer here. [Post edited 10 Nov 10:32]
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Agree with nearly all of that, very well put thank you |  | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 19:10 - Nov 13 with 1844 views | FredManRave |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 17:37 - Nov 13 by TheChef |
Gardening leave / pay him off early. And the club loses even more money.
God we're such a sh1tshow. |
Not sure about Gardening leave, what with all that electrical machinery and all those sharp objects lying around.
All things considered, I think Playground Leave would be the more appropriate course of action. |  |
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 19:17 - Nov 13 with 1803 views | Northernr |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 18:04 - Nov 13 by daveB |
Is Hoos even in the country anymore? |
He’s at most games still. He stayed out for a long time after Boro game talking with fans in SARS. | | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 20:09 - Nov 13 with 1684 views | GroveR |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 14:37 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
Communication, communication, communication.
I've been banging this drum from the moment he got here. Go back and read what I said on the transfer rumours thread in the summer, it's all coming to pass unfortunately. So many of the problems have grown out of this.
Mark Warburton and Ian Holloway both went on long, long losing runs here. Multiple times. Holloway survived three different spells of 6 defeats in a row. First time around he survived two different autumns where we didn't win at all, including one where we got beaten by a car factory.
A huge part of that was the way they communicated with us.
Warburton did every podcast, did every interview you asked of him. He could be prickly, really prickly, but he was straight with you, he answered like a grown up, he treated you with respect, and once the mic was off he'd tell you three or four things he was up against. It meant you were minded to like him, wanted him to do well, minded to give him the benefit of the doubt. |
Didn't Warburton take particular umbrage with you suggesting they were tossing it off during set piece training as no team could intentionally be so poor at defending corners?
I think we knew Warburton wouldn't be backwards in saying his bit given his spells at Brentford and Rangers. | | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 20:19 - Nov 13 with 1633 views | R_from_afar |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 23:12 - Nov 12 by Lblock |
Agree
Bungle was / is an absolute chancer who took a punt and somehow ended up mega rich
He has zero talent or acumen
I therefore wonder if Ruben is the same
I’d never get on a Fernandez plane or deal with any of his other businesses as I have zero trust or faith in them as culture is set from the top.
Amit is an odd one.
I have a lot of time for him and still rue the day the dwarf and fatty stitched up the Mittal bid. I think Amit would’ve been fantastic for us.
His recent actions seem to be him distancing himself from the club and he’s also been party to some bloody poor decisions when he was more active
I do feel like if you lent the current incumbents a tenner you’d only get buttons back
They will destroy this club eventually |
He made load of mistakes at QPR and I don't want him involved with the club again but you are being totally unfair when you talk about Fernandes' business acumen.
When he and his partner took over the "airline," it had two aircraft.
It now has 255, flies to 166 destinations and employs 23,000. |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 20:21 - Nov 13 with 1633 views | mart_Goblin |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 19:17 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
He’s at most games still. He stayed out for a long time after Boro game talking with fans in SARS. |
That surprises me |  | | |
| Fan Mobilisation - Nourry Out on 07:19 - Nov 14 with 1284 views | HammersmithR |
One would assume that Nourry is still in his probationary year and can be saved at any moment for incompetence. The experiment of the lad on work experience has failed miserably and the board need to make the change now before he does anymore damage. | | | |
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