| Letting prisoners loose 09:09 - Sep 26 with 3135 views | onehunglow |
Yep,so this lot decided to release rats onto the streets BY MISTAKE.
Now,this they can’t blame on the Tories .
Just what is happening with us
are we that stupid
Are we that blasé
Are we that naive
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| Letting prisoners loose on 09:31 - Sep 26 with 1542 views | union_jack |
Ridiculous decision but not entirely surprising for this lot.
I do wish that they would concentrate on putting things right with all the things the Tories got wrong rather than trying to gain political capital by blaming them for everything. That well is now dry.
Of course, they have to because they don’t have the answers either.
Time for a General Election😂 |  |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 09:53 - Sep 26 with 1530 views | onehunglow |
| Letting prisoners loose on 09:31 - Sep 26 by union_jack |
Ridiculous decision but not entirely surprising for this lot.
I do wish that they would concentrate on putting things right with all the things the Tories got wrong rather than trying to gain political capital by blaming them for everything. That well is now dry.
Of course, they have to because they don’t have the answers either.
Time for a General Election😂 |
Morning T
Every morning,when I awake and get downstairs and make my coffee ,having switched the TV on ,I end up getting cross before my coffee is cold ,such is the unbelievable unravelling of common sense as I see it .
Nothing ages one more than watching this hysterical world screw itself
Now,we let loose those who prey on us all.
And hardly a word of protest | |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 09:59 - Sep 26 with 1525 views | theloneranger |
You can blame Labour for their early release, but the main fault is still with the last Conservative government.
These prisoners had committed a breach of their restraining order, but were charged by the police and sentenced in the courts under out dated legislation, the "Protection for Harassment Act 1997."
This was later replaced by the "Sentencing Act", which meant that the prison records cited the incorrect offence and therefore did not get flagged up when people were rightly excluded from the early release scheme. |  |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 10:04 - Sep 26 with 1521 views | onehunglow |
| Letting prisoners loose on 09:59 - Sep 26 by theloneranger |
You can blame Labour for their early release, but the main fault is still with the last Conservative government.
These prisoners had committed a breach of their restraining order, but were charged by the police and sentenced in the courts under out dated legislation, the "Protection for Harassment Act 1997."
This was later replaced by the "Sentencing Act", which meant that the prison records cited the incorrect offence and therefore did not get flagged up when people were rightly excluded from the early release scheme. |
Yes,we can blame them for in incorrect release .
Incorrect,mark you.
Imagine the cost if / when these reoffend
We have not had a political party for 60 years plus that has on any way protected the oublic and out them first before criminals
Victims still get dumped upon whilst a raft of organisations actively CARE for these rats . Victims don’t move on . Ever. Criminals do .Always
It’s our shame | |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 13:19 - Sep 26 with 1474 views | Scotia |
| Letting prisoners loose on 09:59 - Sep 26 by theloneranger |
You can blame Labour for their early release, but the main fault is still with the last Conservative government.
These prisoners had committed a breach of their restraining order, but were charged by the police and sentenced in the courts under out dated legislation, the "Protection for Harassment Act 1997."
This was later replaced by the "Sentencing Act", which meant that the prison records cited the incorrect offence and therefore did not get flagged up when people were rightly excluded from the early release scheme. |
Labour should really have built a few more prisons over the last 10 weeks. What the hell have they been doing! | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 13:45 - Sep 26 with 1464 views | onehunglow |
| Letting prisoners loose on 13:19 - Sep 26 by Scotia |
Labour should really have built a few more prisons over the last 10 weeks. What the hell have they been doing! |
These have been released under Labours watch | |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 14:01 - Sep 26 with 1441 views | Flashberryjack |
| Letting prisoners loose on 13:19 - Sep 26 by Scotia |
Labour should really have built a few more prisons over the last 10 weeks. What the hell have they been doing! |
They've been to busy smashing the people smuggling gangs. |  |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 14:29 - Sep 26 with 1426 views | controversial_jack |
| Letting prisoners loose on 13:45 - Sep 26 by onehunglow |
These have been released under Labours watch |
Apparently, it was a decision by the last govt, but this govt has been able to implement it | | | |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 15:36 - Sep 26 with 1403 views | nantywatcher |
I will never understand why people put a block on a new prison in Port Talbot. No-one talks about Bridgend Prison, it's Parc Prison and has no real impact on the town. Call it Sunnyside Prison and build it asap. | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 15:42 - Sep 26 with 1396 views | onehunglow |
| Letting prisoners loose on 15:36 - Sep 26 by nantywatcher |
I will never understand why people put a block on a new prison in Port Talbot. No-one talks about Bridgend Prison, it's Parc Prison and has no real impact on the town. Call it Sunnyside Prison and build it asap. |
I’ve not understood why they haven’t gone back to bunks instead of having their own studio.
It’s a place of punishment ,reflection and contrition not a holiday camp | |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 16:53 - Sep 26 with 1381 views | Scotia |
| Letting prisoners loose on 13:45 - Sep 26 by onehunglow |
These have been released under Labours watch |
Because there's nowhere else to put them.
We need more prisons. That's not Labours fault. If we don't see some plans to increase capacity by the end of this parliament then Labour can take some blame. | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 16:55 - Sep 26 with 1377 views | Scotia |
| Letting prisoners loose on 15:36 - Sep 26 by nantywatcher |
I will never understand why people put a block on a new prison in Port Talbot. No-one talks about Bridgend Prison, it's Parc Prison and has no real impact on the town. Call it Sunnyside Prison and build it asap. |
They didn't really, it was a useful excuse.
The land earmarked had restrictions on it relating to it's use. WG and Westminster had a falling out over it, Westminster said they'd find a different location and then didn't.
Apparently one of the largest number of early releases has been from Cardiff. | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 17:13 - Sep 26 with 1351 views | Dr_Winston |
| Letting prisoners loose on 16:53 - Sep 26 by Scotia |
Because there's nowhere else to put them.
We need more prisons. That's not Labours fault. If we don't see some plans to increase capacity by the end of this parliament then Labour can take some blame. |
We need to stop jailing non-violent offenders and reserve prison space for the violent and repeat "nuisance" offenders.
There's one case I dealt with recently. Many people here will be aware of the story surrounding it so I won't go into too much detail, but someone with no previous convictions, of good character, full employment history etc made a serious mistake of judgement and was sentenced to jail time as a result. Lost their job. Almost lost their family.
I do question the societal value of taking someone out of a job where they're paying tax and supporting a family, and putting them somewhere that costs the taxpayer tens of thousands a year if they are of no risk to the public and basically zero risk of re-offending. Give them ten thousand hours of community service instead. Something useful instead of locking them up for the sake of it.
People with restraining orders are being released from Prison to make room for people who said racist stuff on Twitter. That's on the current Government entirely. Punish the racist goons for sure. Imprisonment? Not necessary. [Post edited 26 Sep 17:20]
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| Letting prisoners loose on 18:03 - Sep 26 with 1321 views | Scotia |
| Letting prisoners loose on 17:13 - Sep 26 by Dr_Winston |
We need to stop jailing non-violent offenders and reserve prison space for the violent and repeat "nuisance" offenders.
There's one case I dealt with recently. Many people here will be aware of the story surrounding it so I won't go into too much detail, but someone with no previous convictions, of good character, full employment history etc made a serious mistake of judgement and was sentenced to jail time as a result. Lost their job. Almost lost their family.
I do question the societal value of taking someone out of a job where they're paying tax and supporting a family, and putting them somewhere that costs the taxpayer tens of thousands a year if they are of no risk to the public and basically zero risk of re-offending. Give them ten thousand hours of community service instead. Something useful instead of locking them up for the sake of it.
People with restraining orders are being released from Prison to make room for people who said racist stuff on Twitter. That's on the current Government entirely. Punish the racist goons for sure. Imprisonment? Not necessary. [Post edited 26 Sep 17:20]
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But we also need to jail others and repeat offenders for longer.
I've said before, I'd advocate an aggregate of sentences and no release for good behaviour. If your sentence is 2 years you serve 2 years if your behaviour is good, if not you serve longer.
You commit another crime you do the 2 years again before the new sentence starts.
Community service has to count, but all they have to do really is turn up sit on a wall and smoke. | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 18:20 - Sep 26 with 1306 views | Dr_Winston |
| Letting prisoners loose on 18:03 - Sep 26 by Scotia |
But we also need to jail others and repeat offenders for longer.
I've said before, I'd advocate an aggregate of sentences and no release for good behaviour. If your sentence is 2 years you serve 2 years if your behaviour is good, if not you serve longer.
You commit another crime you do the 2 years again before the new sentence starts.
Community service has to count, but all they have to do really is turn up sit on a wall and smoke. |
Agree completely with most of that. Community service needs to be tougher and overseen by warranted officers rather than social workers. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 18:27 - Sep 26 with 1302 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Letting prisoners loose on 16:53 - Sep 26 by Scotia |
Because there's nowhere else to put them.
We need more prisons. That's not Labours fault. If we don't see some plans to increase capacity by the end of this parliament then Labour can take some blame. |
It was the Labour Government in the Senedd and Steve Kinnock that blocked the new prison in baglan. | |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 18:49 - Sep 26 with 1285 views | union_jack |
| Letting prisoners loose on 09:53 - Sep 26 by onehunglow |
Morning T
Every morning,when I awake and get downstairs and make my coffee ,having switched the TV on ,I end up getting cross before my coffee is cold ,such is the unbelievable unravelling of common sense as I see it .
Nothing ages one more than watching this hysterical world screw itself
Now,we let loose those who prey on us all.
And hardly a word of protest |
It’s like some dystopian novel. | |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 18:51 - Sep 26 with 1269 views | Scotia |
| Letting prisoners loose on 18:27 - Sep 26 by felixstowe_jack |
It was the Labour Government in the Senedd and Steve Kinnock that blocked the new prison in baglan. |
No it wasn't. It's as I said it was.
The relevant director in NPT tried to bend over backwards to get it built.
The Senedd could have done more but Justice isn't devolved.
This early prisoner release cannot be blamed in anyway at labour | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 18:51 - Sep 26 with 1268 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Letting prisoners loose on 18:03 - Sep 26 by Scotia |
But we also need to jail others and repeat offenders for longer.
I've said before, I'd advocate an aggregate of sentences and no release for good behaviour. If your sentence is 2 years you serve 2 years if your behaviour is good, if not you serve longer.
You commit another crime you do the 2 years again before the new sentence starts.
Community service has to count, but all they have to do really is turn up sit on a wall and smoke. |
I can agree there. Early release for good behaviour has been a bugbear for me for ages. I'd go the other way, behave badly and have your sentence extended.
My coson got community service for drink driving, he spent his time litter picking. It didn't stop him, he has a string of DD offences and comstantly avoids prison because he has a lot of kids by several different women. It would cause them hardship see. | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 19:59 - Sep 26 with 1233 views | KeithHaynes |
| Letting prisoners loose on 18:51 - Sep 26 by SullutaCreturned |
I can agree there. Early release for good behaviour has been a bugbear for me for ages. I'd go the other way, behave badly and have your sentence extended.
My coson got community service for drink driving, he spent his time litter picking. It didn't stop him, he has a string of DD offences and comstantly avoids prison because he has a lot of kids by several different women. It would cause them hardship see. |
Sentences are often extended.
Charlie Bronson a prime example.
He should be released, would be a cracking addition to the circuit the likes of Howard Marks used to tour.
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| Letting prisoners loose on 21:05 - Sep 26 with 1187 views | controversial_jack |
| Letting prisoners loose on 19:59 - Sep 26 by KeithHaynes |
Sentences are often extended.
Charlie Bronson a prime example.
He should be released, would be a cracking addition to the circuit the likes of Howard Marks used to tour.
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This country has one of the worse re offending rates in Europe and it costs us £18 billion a year. Something clearly isn't working | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 23:03 - Sep 26 with 1159 views | majorraglan |
| Letting prisoners loose on 13:19 - Sep 26 by Scotia |
Labour should really have built a few more prisons over the last 10 weeks. What the hell have they been doing! |
And don’t forget about employing sufficient quantities of new civil servants to double check everything and process the releases. After all, sorting the adverts out, allowing time for applicants to complete the application forms, short listing, interviewing, issuing a conditional offer of employment, referencing, completing vetting/security checks, issuing the unconditional offer of employment, person giving 28 days notice to existing employer, starting and completing training period should mean the staff would be in post by the end of July ….not! | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 23:08 - Sep 26 with 1136 views | Dr_Winston |
| Letting prisoners loose on 23:03 - Sep 26 by majorraglan |
And don’t forget about employing sufficient quantities of new civil servants to double check everything and process the releases. After all, sorting the adverts out, allowing time for applicants to complete the application forms, short listing, interviewing, issuing a conditional offer of employment, referencing, completing vetting/security checks, issuing the unconditional offer of employment, person giving 28 days notice to existing employer, starting and completing training period should mean the staff would be in post by the end of July ….not! |
There are civil servants already in place in the vast majority of prisons already in possession of all of this knowledge. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Letting prisoners loose on 23:12 - Sep 26 with 1134 views | majorraglan |
| Letting prisoners loose on 14:29 - Sep 26 by controversial_jack |
Apparently, it was a decision by the last govt, but this govt has been able to implement it |
Is the correct answer, Alex Chalk prepared the plans for Sunak as the system was on the point of breakdown. Interestingly, the Conservatives released 10,000 prisoners early between October 2023 and July 2024. | | | |
| Letting prisoners loose on 09:18 - Sep 27 with 1049 views | controversial_jack |
| Letting prisoners loose on 23:12 - Sep 26 by majorraglan |
Is the correct answer, Alex Chalk prepared the plans for Sunak as the system was on the point of breakdown. Interestingly, the Conservatives released 10,000 prisoners early between October 2023 and July 2024. |
Back as far as 2020 the then govt had plans to release 4000 prisoners to make room and to make quarantine from covid easier.They bungled it and only 175 were released. | | | |
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