| Joseph DaGrosa on 23:37 - Sep 10 with 4658 views | Sadoldgit |
Wow! |  | |  |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 23:53 - Sep 10 with 4639 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 23:37 - Sep 10 by Sadoldgit |
Wow! |
Yes, my feelings too. |  |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 23:58 - Sep 10 with 4636 views | Sadoldgit |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 23:53 - Sep 10 by Saintsforeverj |
Yes, my feelings too. |
The season has just become more interesting! | | | |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 23:58 - Sep 10 with 4636 views | ericofarabia |
Does he own a Big Yacht and is it docked/moored/parked in Southampton Docks?
Has he been to any Southampton Barbers to get his haircut and spill the beans on the whole story whilst having his haircut?
Have any Local Estate Agents shown him any 1 bedroom bedsits in Millbrook or Shirley?
Any Taxi drivers picked him up and got told the whole story but had to 'cross my heart and hope to die' not to tell anybody?
If at least 3 of these things haven't happened then I'm calling this BS. |  | | |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 00:04 - Sep 11 with 4618 views | Sadoldgit |
The article talks about an influx of new signings. Given that the transfer window shuts in just a few weeks the deal will have to happen really quickly for that to happen. | | | |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 00:05 - Sep 11 with 4615 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 23:58 - Sep 10 by ericofarabia |
Does he own a Big Yacht and is it docked/moored/parked in Southampton Docks?
Has he been to any Southampton Barbers to get his haircut and spill the beans on the whole story whilst having his haircut?
Have any Local Estate Agents shown him any 1 bedroom bedsits in Millbrook or Shirley?
Any Taxi drivers picked him up and got told the whole story but had to 'cross my heart and hope to die' not to tell anybody?
If at least 3 of these things haven't happened then I'm calling this BS. |
To be honest, the Newcastle saga and all the rumours about us probably mean it won't happen, but it's nice to get excited for a few minutes nonetheless. Fingers crossed there is something in it. | |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 00:06 - Sep 11 with 4614 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 00:04 - Sep 11 by Sadoldgit |
The article talks about an influx of new signings. Given that the transfer window shuts in just a few weeks the deal will have to happen really quickly for that to happen. |
True. Messi signs on Monday. | |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 05:00 - Sep 11 with 4507 views | Soton |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 00:05 - Sep 11 by Saintsforeverj |
To be honest, the Newcastle saga and all the rumours about us probably mean it won't happen, but it's nice to get excited for a few minutes nonetheless. Fingers crossed there is something in it. |
“Fingers crossed” is this a good thing? If you know anything about why it’s good please share it here |  | | |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 05:42 - Sep 11 with 4493 views | Saintsforeverj |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 05:00 - Sep 11 by Soton |
“Fingers crossed” is this a good thing? If you know anything about why it’s good please share it here |
Joseph Dagrosa is a billionaire and wants success. The following article was written a couple of days ago. Note how he wants to buy a club with a good academy in place and good manager already there. Anyone know a club with a good academy setup and good manager, already in place? Let's think. Maybe this will come off but let's see.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/09/07/football/joseph-dagrosa- [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 5:46]
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 05:58 - Sep 11 with 4483 views | Saintsforeverj |
He does seem more of a communicator than Gao, enthusiastic and seems a good fit. Another owner who wants to develop our own, yes to make money but at least this guy is rich and you never know how enthusiastic he might become for PL success. But it's of course pie in the sky until we know more. Takeovers fall through a lot, so we will see. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 5:59]
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 06:16 - Sep 11 with 4468 views | Butty101 |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 05:58 - Sep 11 by Saintsforeverj |
He does seem more of a communicator than Gao, enthusiastic and seems a good fit. Another owner who wants to develop our own, yes to make money but at least this guy is rich and you never know how enthusiastic he might become for PL success. But it's of course pie in the sky until we know more. Takeovers fall through a lot, so we will see. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 5:59]
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It sounds like it might bring us on par with Wolves. As long as it dosent rock the boat and upset our team and manager dynamics. Oh and he doesn’t load the club up with debt. It’s not worth winning a trophy for it all to go bang and then still be paying for it 15years later |  |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 07:43 - Sep 11 with 4337 views | SaintNick |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 05:58 - Sep 11 by Saintsforeverj |
He does seem more of a communicator than Gao, enthusiastic and seems a good fit. Another owner who wants to develop our own, yes to make money but at least this guy is rich and you never know how enthusiastic he might become for PL success. But it's of course pie in the sky until we know more. Takeovers fall through a lot, so we will see. [Post edited 11 Sep 2020 5:59]
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I'm not sure why people seem to want an owner who "boasts" in the press and therefore "communicates" those owners who have truly brought success to their clubs are the ones that sit back and pay people who know how to run a football club to do it.
How many times does Roman Abramovich give interviews, or John Henry at Liverpool, or the Arab family who run Man City.
The people who are so called "communicators" are the ones who talk big but lurch from one bad season to another, think Moshiri at Everton, Gold & Sullivan at West Ham, Ashley at Newcastle.
We used to have someone like that at St Mary's who didn't even own the club but talked as if we did, there is a difference between communicating and boasting, people prefer being boasted at that their club will be challenging for the Champions League places than being told that the club will be run in a business like manner with no debt being loaded on to it. |  |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 07:54 - Sep 11 with 4321 views | solent_toffee |
Who was that fella who was a mate of Bill Gates and had a super yacht in Ocean Village. Those were the days. | | | |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 08:26 - Sep 11 with 4279 views | Gennaro_Contaldo |
Also, I gather it's not HIS money as such, but an investment fund. That's an entirely different situation.
He would have invested some of his money into the investment firm but generally they will be leveraging debt elsewhere at a MUCH lower cost than the growth return of an investment.
From what I can gather, they see Southampton as an under-valued asset (probably it is), will buy it for £200m and probably then flip it in 2-3 years for £3-400m. While this sort of money is small change to investment funds, it would be a quick and easy 50%-100% growth in 2 years (I'm hypothesising).
So ... better than Gao? God knows, on balance yes, probably as the club will HAVE to grow to see the size of returns they want. Growth will come from investment and success.
Downside ... the club will be for sale again in 2-3 years and who knows who we'll end up with and the club may well have peaked by then.
Supporting Saints is decent though. I'd take this over supporting a "big" club! |  |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 08:31 - Sep 11 with 4274 views | DorsetIan |
That was my first question. Why was he had Bordeaux for such a short time?
Reading the stories of his ‘depature’ from there, there seemed to be other investment company (to which he may be connected) investors involved from the start who are still there, so it might not be as simply as a quick in and out for him.
Anyway, got to be better than the shady world of Mr Gao.
Fingers crossed this comes off, so at least we will have survived the Gao era intact and we can see what happens with the next one. | |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 08:48 - Sep 11 with 4243 views | SaintNick |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 08:26 - Sep 11 by Gennaro_Contaldo |
Also, I gather it's not HIS money as such, but an investment fund. That's an entirely different situation.
He would have invested some of his money into the investment firm but generally they will be leveraging debt elsewhere at a MUCH lower cost than the growth return of an investment.
From what I can gather, they see Southampton as an under-valued asset (probably it is), will buy it for £200m and probably then flip it in 2-3 years for £3-400m. While this sort of money is small change to investment funds, it would be a quick and easy 50%-100% growth in 2 years (I'm hypothesising).
So ... better than Gao? God knows, on balance yes, probably as the club will HAVE to grow to see the size of returns they want. Growth will come from investment and success.
Downside ... the club will be for sale again in 2-3 years and who knows who we'll end up with and the club may well have peaked by then.
Supporting Saints is decent though. I'd take this over supporting a "big" club! |
You make some good points here, if they are going to make money they have to make us succesful, if they can make us worth £400 million then we would need to be more than just a 10th place also ran, we would need to be a club that is 7th and pushing the top six year in year out. | |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 08:54 - Sep 11 with 4230 views | Gennaro_Contaldo |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 08:48 - Sep 11 by SaintNick |
You make some good points here, if they are going to make money they have to make us succesful, if they can make us worth £400 million then we would need to be more than just a 10th place also ran, we would need to be a club that is 7th and pushing the top six year in year out. |
Exactly, so yes in theory this could be decent for a few seasons if it comes off, so let's give this lot a chance.
I read somewhere that at Bordeaux they stripped out every layer of management from football level to c-level and started again. I would HOPE that they don't have to do this with Saints as there is a very decent manager in place and Semmens seems to be decent as well. | |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 09:18 - Sep 11 with 4191 views | saint22 |
ah the Daily Fail gotta be true then.................. | | | |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 09:19 - Sep 11 with 4189 views | DorsetIan |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 08:26 - Sep 11 by Gennaro_Contaldo |
Also, I gather it's not HIS money as such, but an investment fund. That's an entirely different situation.
He would have invested some of his money into the investment firm but generally they will be leveraging debt elsewhere at a MUCH lower cost than the growth return of an investment.
From what I can gather, they see Southampton as an under-valued asset (probably it is), will buy it for £200m and probably then flip it in 2-3 years for £3-400m. While this sort of money is small change to investment funds, it would be a quick and easy 50%-100% growth in 2 years (I'm hypothesising).
So ... better than Gao? God knows, on balance yes, probably as the club will HAVE to grow to see the size of returns they want. Growth will come from investment and success.
Downside ... the club will be for sale again in 2-3 years and who knows who we'll end up with and the club may well have peaked by then.
Supporting Saints is decent though. I'd take this over supporting a "big" club! |
Yes, the problem of being for sale again in 2-3 years because our value has doubled is a good problem to have and, as you say, it will have been fun in the meantime.
An owner who can take us to the next level! | |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 09:50 - Sep 11 with 4126 views | Chesham_Saint |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 07:54 - Sep 11 by solent_toffee |
Who was that fella who was a mate of Bill Gates and had a super yacht in Ocean Village. Those were the days. |
Do you mean Paul Allen? He was more than just a mate, but a co-founder of Microsoft and therefore almost as minted as Gates himself.
Even though he’s now sadly dead he was a genuine sports enthusiast (i think he owned a Seattle football team) and definitely worth respect for founding a museum dedicated to Jimi Hendrix.
Oh and before 22 and his fellow travellers start slagging him for being a capitalist pig-dog he was also a philanthropist.
Sadly buying Saints never came about of course - it could have been very interesting! |  |
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| Joseph DaGrosa on 10:05 - Sep 11 with 4100 views | SonicBoom |
I haven't seen any evidence yet that either clubs or players are suddenly being offloaded for any sort of discount. Good players are still going for big money and in fact in the PL the prices seem to be rising. Look at Watkins who just went from Brentford for 32 million. |  | | |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 11:26 - Sep 11 with 4010 views | ericofarabia |
| Joseph DaGrosa on 07:54 - Sep 11 by solent_toffee |
Who was that fella who was a mate of Bill Gates and had a super yacht in Ocean Village. Those were the days. |
Paul Allen. Top bloke, his huge yacht often spotted at Ocean Village Marina and even used to post on Saints Forever site, and maybe even on here? 😉 | | | |
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