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It seems to me that Brexit sounds the final bell for the 'Left wing' in this country.
They have deserted their principles, deserted their voters, deserted democracy, deserted the real world (evident in Parliament right now as they prefer to exist in their bubble, enjoying the platform and the sound of their own voices...pretending they haven't got to face the public)
My questions for you to discuss; Will the Labour Party be destroyed at the coming election? Will they continue to be the opposition? When are we likely to see a left-wing government in this country again?
This fella seems to have summed it up as well as anyone...
Nearly ten years of these c*nts. Nearly ten years of these bastards killing off vulnerable people with their policies. Ten years of them selling off every possible public asset they possibly can. We've gotten to a point (for example) where the public, having paid for 'our' railway infrastructure, now pay sky high prices that benefit the treasuries of other countries. Not even Thatcher would have privatised the 'Queen's Head' either. Cameron had no such qualms.
Ten years of deliberate underfunding of the NHS after introducing private firms via the Health and Social Care Act 2012 - voted on by many with vested interests in private healthcare companies.
Ten years of the academisation of education (in England, at least); essentially just yet another way of funnelling public money into private hands.
We've also seen the Lib Dem lickspittles enabling them; being complicit in trebling tuition fees despite them pledging not to. Hope it was worth it Nick, five years of Mephistophelian power. (I'm not sure if that's a word, it's early.)
Let's not forget the wrecking ball they've taken to the justice system in this country either. Read 'The Secret Barrister' if you want the whole sorry saga.
And there's Brexit. People actually think that a man who used to belong to a club whose initiation ceremony involved burning £50 notes in front of the homeless is somehow being denied 'the will of the people.' What part of 'he's representing currency speculators' is tricky to grasp? A bought and paid for whore to finance, suckling on the teat of Mammon like most soulless Tories are wont.
Then we get people who, after nearly ten years are pointing the finger at other parties; parties that have not been in power during that time. F*ck off. And when you get there, f*ck off some more.
The whole left/right paradigm is essentially moribund these days anyway, surely? Just more divide and conquer bullshit. What do the Tories actually have to do with small 'c' conservatism? Absolutely nothing. Whores to finance - always have been, always will be. If the veil hasn't lifted at the present time it's clear it never will.
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If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 07:29 - Sep 27 with 3880 views
The Death of the 'Left' on 06:58 - Sep 27 by Jack_Meoff
Nearly ten years of these c*nts. Nearly ten years of these bastards killing off vulnerable people with their policies. Ten years of them selling off every possible public asset they possibly can. We've gotten to a point (for example) where the public, having paid for 'our' railway infrastructure, now pay sky high prices that benefit the treasuries of other countries. Not even Thatcher would have privatised the 'Queen's Head' either. Cameron had no such qualms.
Ten years of deliberate underfunding of the NHS after introducing private firms via the Health and Social Care Act 2012 - voted on by many with vested interests in private healthcare companies.
Ten years of the academisation of education (in England, at least); essentially just yet another way of funnelling public money into private hands.
We've also seen the Lib Dem lickspittles enabling them; being complicit in trebling tuition fees despite them pledging not to. Hope it was worth it Nick, five years of Mephistophelian power. (I'm not sure if that's a word, it's early.)
Let's not forget the wrecking ball they've taken to the justice system in this country either. Read 'The Secret Barrister' if you want the whole sorry saga.
And there's Brexit. People actually think that a man who used to belong to a club whose initiation ceremony involved burning £50 notes in front of the homeless is somehow being denied 'the will of the people.' What part of 'he's representing currency speculators' is tricky to grasp? A bought and paid for whore to finance, suckling on the teat of Mammon like most soulless Tories are wont.
Then we get people who, after nearly ten years are pointing the finger at other parties; parties that have not been in power during that time. F*ck off. And when you get there, f*ck off some more.
The whole left/right paradigm is essentially moribund these days anyway, surely? Just more divide and conquer bullshit. What do the Tories actually have to do with small 'c' conservatism? Absolutely nothing. Whores to finance - always have been, always will be. If the veil hasn't lifted at the present time it's clear it never will.
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I’ll put you down as ‘doubtful’ for voting Tory at the next election then, Mr. Meoff...
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The Death of the 'Left' on 08:49 - Sep 27 with 3754 views
The Death of the 'Left' on 06:58 - Sep 27 by Jack_Meoff
Nearly ten years of these c*nts. Nearly ten years of these bastards killing off vulnerable people with their policies. Ten years of them selling off every possible public asset they possibly can. We've gotten to a point (for example) where the public, having paid for 'our' railway infrastructure, now pay sky high prices that benefit the treasuries of other countries. Not even Thatcher would have privatised the 'Queen's Head' either. Cameron had no such qualms.
Ten years of deliberate underfunding of the NHS after introducing private firms via the Health and Social Care Act 2012 - voted on by many with vested interests in private healthcare companies.
Ten years of the academisation of education (in England, at least); essentially just yet another way of funnelling public money into private hands.
We've also seen the Lib Dem lickspittles enabling them; being complicit in trebling tuition fees despite them pledging not to. Hope it was worth it Nick, five years of Mephistophelian power. (I'm not sure if that's a word, it's early.)
Let's not forget the wrecking ball they've taken to the justice system in this country either. Read 'The Secret Barrister' if you want the whole sorry saga.
And there's Brexit. People actually think that a man who used to belong to a club whose initiation ceremony involved burning £50 notes in front of the homeless is somehow being denied 'the will of the people.' What part of 'he's representing currency speculators' is tricky to grasp? A bought and paid for whore to finance, suckling on the teat of Mammon like most soulless Tories are wont.
Then we get people who, after nearly ten years are pointing the finger at other parties; parties that have not been in power during that time. F*ck off. And when you get there, f*ck off some more.
The whole left/right paradigm is essentially moribund these days anyway, surely? Just more divide and conquer bullshit. What do the Tories actually have to do with small 'c' conservatism? Absolutely nothing. Whores to finance - always have been, always will be. If the veil hasn't lifted at the present time it's clear it never will.
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It was my understanding, from listening to the coverage this week, that inflammatory language only came from the government. But we already knew that wasn't the case, didn't we.
Regardless, this shouldn't be in the football only section.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 09:09 - Sep 27 with 3707 views
Chris Bullivant; (Chris Bullivant is a conservative writer who has worked in Westminster and Washington DC on programming and policy to help the world’s poor and those on welfare, and to improve health outcomes.)
"Whether outside Parliament, the Supreme Court, or with Emily Thornberry at the Labour Party Conference, how is it possible that people can protest against the referendum in the name of democracy? How too is it possible that within the Commons itself, upholding the constitutional decision to leave the EU could be branded hate? I suspect that we have arrived at a point where identity politics has seeped into our understanding of electoral politics — to the point that there are now two competing versions of democracy at play. Identity politics emerged from the same tree of life as Tony Blair’s multiculturalism project whose architect, Bhikhu Parekh, believed politics based on the Western idea of the individual (such as one-person, one-vote) failed to accommodate immigrant communities because they saw themselves as a ‘community’. Within two decades, British politics has been undone by the need to accommodate different concepts of humanity. Wider identity politics has created a direct challenge to our previous conception of electoral politics. It is great that rights have been established for different groups, but at what cost? Identity politics pushes traditional democratic processes such as elections and political parties aside, opting for protest and campaigns, usually motivated by a need for protection not from the state but from other citizens. So now there is a generation of voters who have grown up with identity politics who are suspicious of first-past-the-post or, what they might call, ‘binary’ politics. They ask: how is it possible that a majority could wipe out the rights of a minority through electoral competition? The referendum result is populism and so they must demonstrate in the name of democracy — meaning they must protest outside of the electoral cycle to demand the state secure their rights. For hardcore Remainers, this benign state finds its bodily form not in the British Government but rather in the EU — bureaucratic, undemocratic and offshore. It is a far cry from what most Leave voters believe to be democracy (and those Remain voters who want the referendum to be honoured). Here, the polling booth is precisely the location where the differing opinions of millions of people can be sifted, the majority view established around a winning manifesto, and a government formed with a programme of action based on that result. Losers accept the result because regular elections, not the state, are the source of fairness in a country. It also explains two outlooks on the role of Parliament. Leavers want hard-working conscientious representatives making laws whose consequences they are responsible for, constantly mindful of the electorate. For those who view the state as paramount, which appears to be most MPs themselves desperate to stay in the EU, Parliament is there simply as a sitting commentariat with no responsibility for laws — an extension of the protest campaign to secure various rights from the state, bemoaning the Government’s hostility to the state. To them, breaking for party conference season is the Government out to ‘silence’ this ongoing hand-wringing. These MPs, Remainer QCs and the rest see themselves as aligned with the state and its values — and do not need the censure of the majority voter. Protesters are willing to surrender their agency to the state because they trust it more than themselves and their fellow citizens who are no so aligned. None can see a day when what they want and what the state wants will differ. But that day will come. As it did for those Catalan separatist politicians who sit imprisoned for wanting to celebrate EU regional diversity. As it yet might for Premier Corbyn whose vision for a British socialist paradise would be frustrated by free movement of goods, the Common Agricultural Policy or the EU’s growing appetite to run domestic social security, tax and defence. The power of the vote has waned in British politics while identity politics protest has waxed. Yet with the referendum both groups have seen democracy fail in their lifetime. The only way to protect both the majority and the minority is to respect the referendum result — and with it to reassert the radical power to protect everyone’s rights when we make a mark in the ballot box."
The Death of the 'Left' on 06:58 - Sep 27 by Jack_Meoff
Nearly ten years of these c*nts. Nearly ten years of these bastards killing off vulnerable people with their policies. Ten years of them selling off every possible public asset they possibly can. We've gotten to a point (for example) where the public, having paid for 'our' railway infrastructure, now pay sky high prices that benefit the treasuries of other countries. Not even Thatcher would have privatised the 'Queen's Head' either. Cameron had no such qualms.
Ten years of deliberate underfunding of the NHS after introducing private firms via the Health and Social Care Act 2012 - voted on by many with vested interests in private healthcare companies.
Ten years of the academisation of education (in England, at least); essentially just yet another way of funnelling public money into private hands.
We've also seen the Lib Dem lickspittles enabling them; being complicit in trebling tuition fees despite them pledging not to. Hope it was worth it Nick, five years of Mephistophelian power. (I'm not sure if that's a word, it's early.)
Let's not forget the wrecking ball they've taken to the justice system in this country either. Read 'The Secret Barrister' if you want the whole sorry saga.
And there's Brexit. People actually think that a man who used to belong to a club whose initiation ceremony involved burning £50 notes in front of the homeless is somehow being denied 'the will of the people.' What part of 'he's representing currency speculators' is tricky to grasp? A bought and paid for whore to finance, suckling on the teat of Mammon like most soulless Tories are wont.
Then we get people who, after nearly ten years are pointing the finger at other parties; parties that have not been in power during that time. F*ck off. And when you get there, f*ck off some more.
The whole left/right paradigm is essentially moribund these days anyway, surely? Just more divide and conquer bullshit. What do the Tories actually have to do with small 'c' conservatism? Absolutely nothing. Whores to finance - always have been, always will be. If the veil hasn't lifted at the present time it's clear it never will.
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Kerouac is deriding “the left” for abandoning its principles. Just to put that in context - he votes Lib Dem . Lmfao
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The Death of the 'Left' on 09:16 - Sep 27 with 3692 views
The Death of the 'Left' on 09:10 - Sep 27 by Brynmill_Jack
Kerouac is deriding “the left” for abandoning its principles. Just to put that in context - he votes Lib Dem . Lmfao
Keep up, I haven't voted Lib Dem since 2015. I have left the Lib Dems and won't be going back. I still get e-mails from them though so I am perfectly aware of their tactics and what they say about members of the public who voted Brexit behind closed doors.
If I wanted, I could have dinner with Layla Moran MP at the Welsh Lib Dem conference in Brecon. I have passed. Clear enough for you?
The Death of the 'Left' on 09:16 - Sep 27 by Kerouac
Keep up, I haven't voted Lib Dem since 2015. I have left the Lib Dems and won't be going back. I still get e-mails from them though so I am perfectly aware of their tactics and what they say about members of the public who voted Brexit behind closed doors.
If I wanted, I could have dinner with Layla Moran MP at the Welsh Lib Dem conference in Brecon. I have passed. Clear enough for you?
Layla must be beside herself.
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The Death of the 'Left' on 09:21 - Sep 27 with 3675 views
Robert Courts; (Robert Courts has been the Conservative MP for Witney and West Oxfordshire since 2016 and is chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Group for Small- and Micro-Businesses.)
"The Liberal Democrats have devoted a great deal of time at their party conference to attacking my predecessor as Witney MP, David Cameron, over his decision to call the EU referendum. These attacks are an attempt to sanitise their own role in campaigning for — and to airbrush their contribution to securing — that very referendum. Let’s get some of the basics clear first. The Conservative manifesto promise to hold an in/out referendum was endorsed by the British people in 2015, being crucial to the party’s majority at that year’s general election. The very fact that the British public voted to Leave a year later demonstrates how wide and deep was discontent in Britain at the country’s EU membership, at least without fundamental reform. Ever since the advent of the euro, and the further integration required to sustain it, Britain and the EU were on different paths requiring at the very least a fundamentally reformed relationship. Cameron is correct that a referendum was, at some point, probably inevitable in any event. We should not forget: the referendum was not called by Cameron alone. Even as Prime Minister, he did not have the authority to simply call the referendum. That required an Act of Parliament, which passed by an overwhelming majority with 544 MPs in favour and just 53 against at Second Reading. As it happened, seven of the Lib Dems’ then eight MPs voted for the EU Referendum Bill in 2015. But the Lib Dems’ hypocrisy does not end there. For all the vitriol they pour on Cameron for holding the referendum, the Lib Dems neglect to mention that they were calling for an in/out referendum on the EU many years before the Conservative Party. Indeed, we have all seen the infamous 2008 Lib Dem campaign leaflet circulating on Twitter — very familiar to those of us who were Conservative activists at the time — featuring a fresh-faced Nick Clegg demanding “a real referendum on Britain’s membership of the European Union.” The leaflet observed that: “It’s been over thirty years since the British people last had a vote on Britain’s membership of the European Union. That’s why the Liberal Democrats want a real referendum on Europe. Only a real referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU will let the people decide our country’s future.” 2008 was also the year that Clegg infamously stormed out of the House of Commons when the then speaker, Michael Martin, refused to call a Lib Dem amendment in his name demanding an in/out EU referendum. Following Ed Davey’s expulsion from the chamber, Clegg said: “I share the dismay of [Ed Davey]. What guidance can [the Deputy Speaker] give me on how we can secure — if not today, at some point during the remaining stages of the Bill — the opportunity to debate the issue that many members want debated and many members of the public want debated: our future membership of the EU?” Davey (then the Lib Dems’ foreign affairs spokesman) had struck an even more forceful tone, remarking: “Will the Chair reconsider the decision not to select the Liberal Democrat amendment for a referendum on Britain’s membership of the EU? That is the question that goes to the heart of the debate before the House. That is the debate that people want to hear. We are being gagged, Sir.” The current Lib Dem Leader, Jo Swinson, also contributed to this debate, and her speech is fascinating when compared with the comments she made at the weekend. Swinson repeated that: “The Liberal Democrats would like to have a referendum on the major issue of whether we are in or out of Europe.” On an in/out EU referendum, she noted: “We support such a referendum; we will continue to campaign for it and hope that it will find favour in this House.” Furthermore, she described being denied a vote on Clegg’s referendum amendment as “incredibly disappointing” and something she felt “very passionately” about. Swinson’s eurosceptic side — mysteriously neglected of late — was also on display, as she noted: “For too long, power in the EU has been concentrated among those who are appointed, not elected. The structures of the EU have often proved cumbersome to say the least, at times even making this House look modern and streamlined by comparison.” The Lib Dems remained proponents of an in/out referendum at the 2010 General Election which saw them enter into a Coalition Government with the Conservatives, with a carefully caveated manifesto promise to hold a referendum “the next time a British government signs up for fundamental change in the relationship between the UK and the EU”. The fact that the Lib Dems long advocated giving the British people a say on our membership of the EU, and indeed were the first mainstream party to call for an in/out referendum on the matter, makes their new pledge to cancel Brexit without even a second referendum all the more extraordinary. And that, itself, being an evolution from a position that a second referendum result would only be respected if it resulted in a Remain vote. Seemingly without a hint of self-awareness, Lib Dem party policy is now to ignore the result of a referendum for which they themselves were the first to call. This wildly divisive policy shows the Lib Dems to be utterly disinterested in bringing the country together, their uncompromising approach only serving to fuel further discord and division. There is nothing inherently wrong with regretting a referendum result, but it is deluded to think that pretending it didn’t happen is going to lead to anything other than bitter polarisation. It is therefore no surprise that Lib Dem grandee Sir Norman Lamb has warned that the party is “playing with fire”, describing the new policy as “a threat to the social contract” that risks dividing an already fractured country further. Let’s be clear: nullifying a referendum for which the Lib Dems were the first to call, which was overwhelmingly endorsed by Parliament and which was the largest democratic exercise in our nation’s history, is not a moderate position. Neither liberal, nor democrats, this party has become the truly extremist force in British politics."
There will never be the death of tolerant liberal people but some are killing the left with their vile and abhorrent comments towards people they don’t agree with. Some are only on the bandwagon pretending because they think it’s cool.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
The Death of the 'Left' on 09:16 - Sep 27 by Kerouac
Keep up, I haven't voted Lib Dem since 2015. I have left the Lib Dems and won't be going back. I still get e-mails from them though so I am perfectly aware of their tactics and what they say about members of the public who voted Brexit behind closed doors.
If I wanted, I could have dinner with Layla Moran MP at the Welsh Lib Dem conference in Brecon. I have passed. Clear enough for you?
She swiped right on my tinder profile too.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
The Death of the 'Left' on 09:16 - Sep 27 by Kerouac
Keep up, I haven't voted Lib Dem since 2015. I have left the Lib Dems and won't be going back. I still get e-mails from them though so I am perfectly aware of their tactics and what they say about members of the public who voted Brexit behind closed doors.
If I wanted, I could have dinner with Layla Moran MP at the Welsh Lib Dem conference in Brecon. I have passed. Clear enough for you?
But the Lib-Dems have always been a massive pro EU party, you was voting for a massive pro EU party now you seem to be strongly against the EU, that comes across as somebody not knowing their own mind.
Are you these days for a deal or no deal Kerouac ?
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The Death of the 'Left' on 10:46 - Sep 27 with 3485 views
The Death of the 'Left' on 10:42 - Sep 27 by ladyjack
But the Lib-Dems have always been a massive pro EU party, you was voting for a massive pro EU party now you seem to be strongly against the EU, that comes across as somebody not knowing their own mind.
Are you these days for a deal or no deal Kerouac ?
The propaganda works
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The Death of the 'Left' on 10:47 - Sep 27 with 3479 views
The Death of the 'Left' on 10:42 - Sep 27 by ladyjack
But the Lib-Dems have always been a massive pro EU party, you was voting for a massive pro EU party now you seem to be strongly against the EU, that comes across as somebody not knowing their own mind.
Are you these days for a deal or no deal Kerouac ?
Fuçk off Noel.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
The Death of the 'Left' on 10:09 - Sep 27 by Darran
There will never be the death of tolerant liberal people but some are killing the left with their vile and abhorrent comments towards people they don’t agree with. Some are only on the bandwagon pretending because they think it’s cool.
You are obsessed with what "the left" say or do (especially Ebo).
Why not include about nutters from the right or centre as well, for balance like?
I want a mate like Flashberryjacks, who wears a Barnsley jersey with "Swans are my second team" on the back.
The Death of the 'Left' on 10:42 - Sep 27 by ladyjack
But the Lib-Dems have always been a massive pro EU party, you was voting for a massive pro EU party now you seem to be strongly against the EU, that comes across as somebody not knowing their own mind.
Are you these days for a deal or no deal Kerouac ?
Membership of the European Union is a single issue, an important issue but a single issue. None of the major political parties were for leaving the EU or, for the longest time, willing to let the public vote on the issue. I voted Lib Dem in GE’s and UKIP in European Elections. Then the Lib Dem’s decided they wanted a referendum on the issue, good news for a Lib Dem like I was.
What has followed that referendum has opened my eyes. What has been said and done by people I used to support has shocked me into reassessing everything. I can no longer go along with the hypocrisy and the sanctimony. I am woke 😃
I was always for a deal but am fully aware that the EU won’t give us a deal that this country can live with without the threat of no deal on the table and while they have people in our parliament working on their behalf. This is the position of 90%+ of Brexit voters I believe.
The Death of the 'Left' on 11:00 - Sep 27 by Neath_Jack
You are obsessed with what "the left" say or do (especially Ebo).
Why not include about nutters from the right or centre as well, for balance like?
I do. I always have. I’ve said on here for many years I don’t understand how anyone can be far left or far right. It baffles me and doesn’t make sense to me. I kept on about it so much in the past your chum ECB told me to fuçk up.
Also I haven’t mentioned the massive hypocrite Ebo but seeing as you’ve mentioned him he’s a prime example of why people turn on the far left.
On a side note you can see the video doing the rounds on Twitter this morning of Dominic Cummings being approached by Karl Turner MP. Now I’ll be honest,up until several weeks ago I’d never heard of Cummings but over those several weeks I’ve read and seen enough to make up my mind that he’s one vile man who could do with a good hiding. But the video? What are the left taking out of today’s video that is so great? Andrews approaches Cummings and has a go at Cummings. I can’t see Cummings doing anything.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
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