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Tower Bridge incident on 14:51 - Jun 4 by PozuelosSideys
So come on then. Dont you think a family has responsibility for other members within it? Especially if they are under the same roof?
Easy for you to sit there and say these things, but where are you? Does this impact you directly? I bet it doesnt.
If one of your family members went out and killed a bunch of people, maybe we should arrest you for not stopping him? What if the family members had no knowledge of the plot or were completely innocent? It's absurd.
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Tower Bridge incident on 15:30 - Jun 4 with 2776 views
“It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.”
"Salman Abedi, was part of an extremist group, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, that thrived in Manchester and was cultivated and used by MI5 for more than 20 years."
Tower Bridge incident on 15:26 - Jun 4 by Headmaster
If one of your family members went out and killed a bunch of people, maybe we should arrest you for not stopping him? What if the family members had no knowledge of the plot or were completely innocent? It's absurd.
Tough. Maybe if they knew the consequences to their family then they would think twice. As it stands, the price is paid by the victims whilst those who may (or may not have) known what acts their family member committed can carry on.
Currently, there is no deterrent for those people doing these things. They end up dead, become a martyr and its win-win for them.
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Tower Bridge incident on 11:27 - Jun 4 by PozuelosSideys
My mate was caught up in this last night, it wasnt a pretty sight.
But all those calling for "action". What you gonna do? Seriously? What can ever be done about a bunch of idiots driving around in a van and then jumping out and stabbing people? The answer is not a damn thing.
There are 6m people in this city and there have been 4 (including that Westminster guy) who have done these things - with everyday objects. There is no way to stop this.
I disagre.
There is a way to stop this it won't be quick or easy.
These twisted individuals have parents,brothers ,sisters uncles and aunts ,religious leaders and responsible people in thier community.
These are the only people who can put an end to this murderous ideology.
The answe has to come from within the Muslim population it won't work if it's imposed on them.
Tower Bridge incident on 15:30 - Jun 4 by Headmaster
“It is no secret that Saudi Arabia in particular provides funding to hundreds of mosques in the UK, espousing a very hardline Wahhabist interpretation of Islam. It is often in these institutions that British extremism takes root.”
"Salman Abedi, was part of an extremist group, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, that thrived in Manchester and was cultivated and used by MI5 for more than 20 years."
"Police cuts will risk British lives at time of terror threat, Jeremy Corbyn warns Government"
The same Jeremy Corbyn who demanded incessantly that the UDR be disbanded and the RUC be disarmed "at a time of terror threat?" That one? You're quoting that one as some sort of voice of reason?
I swear to God any government headed by him and backed by the sort of renegades who laud him would pose a bigger threat to the nation than a desert death-cult ever could.
An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.
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Tower Bridge incident on 17:25 - Jun 4 with 2528 views
Tower Bridge incident on 16:58 - Jun 4 by Lohengrin
"Police cuts will risk British lives at time of terror threat, Jeremy Corbyn warns Government"
The same Jeremy Corbyn who demanded incessantly that the UDR be disbanded and the RUC be disarmed "at a time of terror threat?" That one? You're quoting that one as some sort of voice of reason?
I swear to God any government headed by him and backed by the sort of renegades who laud him would pose a bigger threat to the nation than a desert death-cult ever could.
So let's have a Conservative government that backs the Saudis who, in turn, funnel money and resources to the very terrorists we're supposed to destroy.
"I swear to God any government headed by him and backed by the sort of renegades who laud him would pose a bigger threat to the nation than a desert death-cult ever could."
I've always known the Right have a thing for crazed hyperbole, but this takes the biscuit.
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Tower Bridge incident on 17:36 - Jun 4 with 2504 views
Tower Bridge incident on 17:25 - Jun 4 by Headmaster
So let's have a Conservative government that backs the Saudis who, in turn, funnel money and resources to the very terrorists we're supposed to destroy.
"I swear to God any government headed by him and backed by the sort of renegades who laud him would pose a bigger threat to the nation than a desert death-cult ever could."
I've always known the Right have a thing for crazed hyperbole, but this takes the biscuit.
Come on this isn't a left/right labour/conservative thing. Cosying up to the Saudis has been a constant staple of our foreign policy for decades.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Tower Bridge incident on 17:36 - Jun 4 by Highjack
Come on this isn't a left/right labour/conservative thing. Cosying up to the Saudis has been a constant staple of our foreign policy for decades.
I know. The difference is Labour, in their manifesto, has said they will ban all arms sales to Saudi Arabia. Whether they would actually do that is another thing. The Cons, on the other hand, defend the relationship with the Saudis because it's "good business".
I'd rather have a Labour government that would move towards reducing support for the Saudis than a Conservative government that ignores the problem of continued extremism in the name of business.
Tower Bridge incident on 16:58 - Jun 4 by Lohengrin
"Police cuts will risk British lives at time of terror threat, Jeremy Corbyn warns Government"
The same Jeremy Corbyn who demanded incessantly that the UDR be disbanded and the RUC be disarmed "at a time of terror threat?" That one? You're quoting that one as some sort of voice of reason?
I swear to God any government headed by him and backed by the sort of renegades who laud him would pose a bigger threat to the nation than a desert death-cult ever could.
Well it wasn't Corbyn who cut the police numbers from 2010 onwards was it................
Even though she was specifically warned about the possibility of an increased threat she basically accused the police federation of lying and doing the country "no favours".
Now then Lohengrin, do you think Teresa may was right to call the Police federation "scaremongers" because she didn't like dissent while she was weakening the country's anti terror defences to save money? ? Even though they were proven horribly right when they argued that a lack of intelligence gathering and community engagement had led to all intelligence drying up?
James O Brien summed it up perfectly when he said "the police aren't perfect but I have a degree of sentimentality for them and the armed forces who put themselves in the line of danger to keep me and my family safe".
If you and the boys up the legion want to call anyone a traitor to this country I suggest you turn your attention to the current prime minister, not the next one.
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Tower Bridge incident on 22:12 - Jun 4 with 2250 views
Tower Bridge incident on 20:55 - Jun 4 by Brynmill_Jack
Well it wasn't Corbyn who cut the police numbers from 2010 onwards was it................
Even though she was specifically warned about the possibility of an increased threat she basically accused the police federation of lying and doing the country "no favours".
Now then Lohengrin, do you think Teresa may was right to call the Police federation "scaremongers" because she didn't like dissent while she was weakening the country's anti terror defences to save money? ? Even though they were proven horribly right when they argued that a lack of intelligence gathering and community engagement had led to all intelligence drying up?
James O Brien summed it up perfectly when he said "the police aren't perfect but I have a degree of sentimentality for them and the armed forces who put themselves in the line of danger to keep me and my family safe".
If you and the boys up the legion want to call anyone a traitor to this country I suggest you turn your attention to the current prime minister, not the next one.
Agreed. By the way, she's really demonstrated how much she thinks of the police by being instrumental in hiring that latter day Ian Macgregor Tom Winsor ( who shafted our railways first) to do a hatchet job on the police and prison service pay and conditions. All that paying tribute crap now makes me want to puke.
"Yossarian- the very sight of the name made him shudder.There were so many esses in it. It just had to be subversive" (Catch 22)
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Tower Bridge incident on 01:53 - Jun 5 with 2119 views
Tower Bridge incident on 23:26 - Jun 4 by Yossarian
Agreed. By the way, she's really demonstrated how much she thinks of the police by being instrumental in hiring that latter day Ian Macgregor Tom Winsor ( who shafted our railways first) to do a hatchet job on the police and prison service pay and conditions. All that paying tribute crap now makes me want to puke.
Agreed. But why won't the right wingers at least have the honesty to say she is a hypocritical heartless cow who not only berated them for telling the truth but did it with a self satisfied smugness , as if she thought "I've got away with this". Sorry, the should go on trial
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Tower Bridge incident on 02:14 - Jun 5 with 2106 views
Tower Bridge incident on 23:26 - Jun 4 by Yossarian
Agreed. By the way, she's really demonstrated how much she thinks of the police by being instrumental in hiring that latter day Ian Macgregor Tom Winsor ( who shafted our railways first) to do a hatchet job on the police and prison service pay and conditions. All that paying tribute crap now makes me want to puke.
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Tower Bridge incident on 13:01 - Jun 4 by morningstar
Agh, i was wondering when the 'Saturday night special' would make an appearance!
Try answering the question instead of trying (and failing) to be clever. Who are they? what do they look like? Or do we rise up against every person who looks like this?
Go on, off you go.
You see this 'internet thing'..
We have the capability to monitor all 'computer' related devices.. 'actively watch people browse on their computer from another location'
With this 'genius' piece of technology that's been around for about 20 years now.. could be absolutely vital in catching and incarcerating Islamic Extremists in the uk who sign up to specific websites that are run from libiya and syria to join the ISIS brotherhood.
But due to a liberal law amendment in the last 15 years.. the security services are not allowed to snoop on raging terrorists actively wanting to kill people, and spread the word of Jihad in case it 'offends' them.. and stops their 'human rights'.
But if a pedophile for instance has been snooping on child pornography sites.. he's pretty much arrested in a few months.
But there's a bigger picture to all of this nonsense anyway.. money is the obvious factor.. obviously.
Because it always is..
The awkward moment when a Welsh Club become the Champions of England.. shh
The Swansea Way.. To upset the odds.
Tower Bridge incident on 23:26 - Jun 4 by Yossarian
Agreed. By the way, she's really demonstrated how much she thinks of the police by being instrumental in hiring that latter day Ian Macgregor Tom Winsor ( who shafted our railways first) to do a hatchet job on the police and prison service pay and conditions. All that paying tribute crap now makes me want to puke.
Absolutely. Notice though the right wingers who peddled all that sh*t about Corbyn being a terrorist sympathizer are strangely quiet now Teresa May herself has helped create ideal conditions for these atrocities to happen.
At least acknowledge this Lohengrin and Perchrock. Can't you even do that?
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Tower Bridge incident on 14:09 - Jun 5 with 1895 views
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