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so after today 00:12 - Nov 30 with 6020 viewsmarchamjack

anyone think Leon shouldn't be back in place of JJ alongside Ki?

Leon is in our best XI

Oh,..Dave, what's occuring?

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so after today on 00:26 - Nov 30 with 3856 viewsJethroJack

QPR would be a good game for the master DM to return
I hope to gets the nod....cos I'll be there
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so after today on 00:49 - Nov 30 with 3827 viewsBonjour

Leon alongside JJS all day every day.

If Leon is fit obviously
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(No subject) (n/t) on 00:51 - Nov 30 with 3823 viewsBonjour

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so after today on 07:55 - Nov 30 with 3695 viewseddie71

so after today on 00:49 - Nov 30 by Bonjour

Leon alongside JJS all day every day.

If Leon is fit obviously


So your dropping Ki ?????? for Shelvey
I think it rhymes with clucking bell.
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so after today on 08:53 - Nov 30 with 3624 viewsMattG

so after today on 07:55 - Nov 30 by eddie71

So your dropping Ki ?????? for Shelvey
I think it rhymes with clucking bell.


This.
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so after today on 08:59 - Nov 30 with 3618 viewsQuakerJack

so after today on 07:55 - Nov 30 by eddie71

So your dropping Ki ?????? for Shelvey
I think it rhymes with clucking bell.


Seconded.

Tom Carroll very unlucky to be displaced after a very decent run of games.

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so after today on 09:30 - Nov 30 with 3569 viewsjack247

The three will be rotated if all fit. There is definitely a place for Shelvey at home in the more winnable games. He may not have played well yesterday, but I would have started him. I would for QPR too.
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so after today on 09:49 - Nov 30 with 3515 viewsoldcob

I wouldn't start with him. I'd bring him on to play last half hour for first game back. See how he goes, then if okay, play him against West Ham from the start, omitting Shelvey, who appears to be going through a bad time. Wouldn't write Shelvey off though, but when a young player is having a bad time and you have cover, take him out of the line of fire until his confidence returns.
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so after today on 09:53 - Nov 30 with 3505 viewsAl_Bundy

So we want to replace Ki who was probably our best players yesterday as a DM and bring in another DM to replace Shelvey.

Here's a suggestion.. why doesn't Shelvey get fit to last a whole 90 mins .

Siggy had a poor match yesterday didn't help and Routledge's lights went out after 30 mins for some unknown reason. Our whole tempo just faded second half with no real desire to match Palace for work rate.
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so after today on 09:55 - Nov 30 with 3501 viewsAl_Bundy

So we want to replace Ki who was probably our best players yesterday as a DM and bring in another DM to replace Shelvey.

Here's a suggestion.. why doesn't Shelvey get fit to last a whole 90 mins .

Siggy had a poor match yesterday didn't help and Routledge's lights went out after 30 mins for some unknown reason. Our whole tempo just faded second half with no real desire to match Palace for work rate.
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so after today on 09:58 - Nov 30 with 3489 viewsIslander

Leon to start - to get the rhythm flowing and secure a stable platform

We need to establish a firmer foundation which doesnt crumble after 20 mins - the JJS/Ki combo isnt best suited to establishing and sustaining a secure base

JJS as impact sub in a more progressive role
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so after today on 10:04 - Nov 30 with 3471 viewsBrynmill_Jack

so after today on 09:58 - Nov 30 by Islander

Leon to start - to get the rhythm flowing and secure a stable platform

We need to establish a firmer foundation which doesnt crumble after 20 mins - the JJS/Ki combo isnt best suited to establishing and sustaining a secure base

JJS as impact sub in a more progressive role


Agreed. Leon is a no brainer which is why it's so important to have a proper successor lined up and SOON. Ki to play in front of him with Carroll on present form first choice Ki replacement with JJS behind him (unless it's a rough house clogging side we're playing).

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so after today on 10:25 - Nov 30 with 3431 viewsGreatBritton

Leon has to start. Ki is very good, but he seems to be affected (infected?) by midfield partners alongside him not playing well, as was the case with JJS yesterday. I thought he went into his shell a bit and no one had much idea what to do in the second half - long high balls to Montero is no answer. I was disappointed Garry didn't replace JJS when it was clear he was mentally drifting again
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so after today on 10:37 - Nov 30 with 3383 viewsAl_Bundy

Agree with this... have to say as the game went on when Ki had the ball there were very limited options with neither JJS or Siggy making space or runs.

Also didn't help was Taylor pointing and telegraphing where he was going to pass to Montero which rarely came off second half.

Just thought we didn't have the desire or fitness to match Palace yesterday. Even in the last 10 mins we were just passing it sideways and backwards without any real purpose. Also we need to get bodies in the box. First half especially at times it was just Bony and 4 Palace defenders.
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so after today on 10:40 - Nov 30 with 3370 viewscurleigh

so after today on 10:25 - Nov 30 by GreatBritton

Leon has to start. Ki is very good, but he seems to be affected (infected?) by midfield partners alongside him not playing well, as was the case with JJS yesterday. I thought he went into his shell a bit and no one had much idea what to do in the second half - long high balls to Montero is no answer. I was disappointed Garry didn't replace JJS when it was clear he was mentally drifting again


agree, Shelvey has become a bit of a liability, for us, what with his needless bookings/sendings off, although i thought that was an extremely soft pen yesterday, i think Leon will give ki more freedom to push forward as no one protects our back 4 better than Leon. IMO
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so after today on 10:41 - Nov 30 with 3367 viewsjack247

so after today on 10:04 - Nov 30 by Brynmill_Jack

Agreed. Leon is a no brainer which is why it's so important to have a proper successor lined up and SOON. Ki to play in front of him with Carroll on present form first choice Ki replacement with JJS behind him (unless it's a rough house clogging side we're playing).


Not quite sure we have to be in a massive rush to replace Leon. He is 31/32? Plays most of the game with his mind and has the build to carry on longer than the average player. We do need an understudy I guess, but I can see us getting another 3 or 4 years out of Leon.
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so after today on 10:51 - Nov 30 with 3340 viewsScoobyWho

If Bony keeps giving the ball away in situations that lead to goals being scored against us, I advocate giving him a rest.

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so after today on 11:34 - Nov 30 with 3281 viewsbluenile

Who is this fecking Bonjour???.............................n obvious Ki hater, even though the man is head and shoulders above others around him every week.......................

Open the ipod bay doors Hal

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so after today on 11:56 - Nov 30 with 3248 viewsjacksinceever

so after today on 10:51 - Nov 30 by ScoobyWho

If Bony keeps giving the ball away in situations that lead to goals being scored against us, I advocate giving him a rest.


Yep. Alongside Ki, who is letting us down week after week and Fabianski, who's the worst keeper we've had in a long time.
Now, where did I put that "tongue in cheek" smiley?
People keep advocating Leon to replace anyone who isn't 100%, yet we've done better after 13 matches than any of our previous PL seasons. On the whole we are doing well - why change things?
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so after today on 12:07 - Nov 30 with 3227 viewsBrynmill_Jack

so after today on 10:41 - Nov 30 by jack247

Not quite sure we have to be in a massive rush to replace Leon. He is 31/32? Plays most of the game with his mind and has the build to carry on longer than the average player. We do need an understudy I guess, but I can see us getting another 3 or 4 years out of Leon.


3-4 years if we went down but IMHO he's got 1-2 years max in the top flight, then he would be used very sparingly , a few starts, impact sub etc etc

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so after today on 12:11 - Nov 30 with 3209 viewsScoobyWho

so after today on 11:56 - Nov 30 by jacksinceever

Yep. Alongside Ki, who is letting us down week after week and Fabianski, who's the worst keeper we've had in a long time.
Now, where did I put that "tongue in cheek" smiley?
People keep advocating Leon to replace anyone who isn't 100%, yet we've done better after 13 matches than any of our previous PL seasons. On the whole we are doing well - why change things?


ok, you got me ;-)
[Post edited 30 Nov 2014 12:11]

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so after today on 12:12 - Nov 30 with 3200 viewsBrynmill_Jack

so after today on 11:56 - Nov 30 by jacksinceever

Yep. Alongside Ki, who is letting us down week after week and Fabianski, who's the worst keeper we've had in a long time.
Now, where did I put that "tongue in cheek" smiley?
People keep advocating Leon to replace anyone who isn't 100%, yet we've done better after 13 matches than any of our previous PL seasons. On the whole we are doing well - why change things?


I wouldn't mind seeing JJS playing behind Wilf to give Gylfi a break. If he fecks up shove Routledge there

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so after today on 20:52 - Nov 30 with 3044 viewsIslander

so after today on 12:12 - Nov 30 by Brynmill_Jack

I wouldn't mind seeing JJS playing behind Wilf to give Gylfi a break. If he fecks up shove Routledge there


Not a bad shout - Routs has the football intelligence to play in the (creative) hole

JJS has the dynamism - but certainly not the intelligence to be our pivotal creative genius
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so after today on 21:02 - Nov 30 with 3013 viewsBonjour

so after today on 11:34 - Nov 30 by bluenile

Who is this fecking Bonjour???.............................n obvious Ki hater, even though the man is head and shoulders above others around him every week.......................


Hello.

I don't hate Ki. I just think of all are fit that Leon does his role better than him and I think JJS offers more going forward than him. That's all. No agenda.
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so after today on 00:57 - Dec 3 with 2772 viewsmarchamjack

I rest my case...

Oh,..Dave, what's occuring?

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