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Reply | Paul Arriola of D.C United linked
at 19:10 20 Jan 2021
Morris makes $600k US pa and Arriola is a little over $700k US pa.
Not sure how that compares to Championship salary structures (MLS has a very different and strange salary structure). [Post edited 20 Jan 2021 19:11]
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Reply | Paul Arriola of D.C United linked
at 19:05 20 Jan 2021
Read through the article. I agree on most counts. Arriola has only played on the wing for the US team, and usually comes off the bench.
Arriola did play in December, not for club, but for the US national team (and scored, against El Salvador). He started for a MLS-based players only roster, and I didn't notice any diminished pace from the injury. Tough to tell in one game though, and everyone was out of form due to the pandemic.
Given that Arriola is from DC United and the ownership of the two clubs, I too am suspicious this isn't just a "rehab assignment" to get him practice time and back to full fitness during the MLS offseason. Arriola signed a 4-year extension with DCU after his injury, last summer, and is one of their key players moving forward.
Even so, as Steph correctly points out, this should not be any financial risk to the club and I can't imagine he'd be anything other that a good influence in training, even if that is all he is. Both he and Morris have a lot to prove outside of MLS if they want to stay in the national team picture, which would work well for us in terms of their motivation. |
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Reply | Paul Arriola of D.C United linked
at 18:37 20 Jan 2021
I will also add a few things that pop to mind from an American perspective.
Both Morris and Arriola are max effort players - they will give their all when on the pitch. Even if I'm not entirely sure where they both fit with Cooper tactically, both will push themselves and put their bodies on the line for the club. Some of the US players that have failed in Europe (Jozy Altidore at Sunderland springs to mind) don't fit that mold.
I'd also say that the U.S. national team has a ton (from a U.S. perspective) of very young prospects coming up through European academies. Pulisic at Chelsea is the first to break through, but in the friendly against Wales where the team could only call in European based players due to COVID, we saw almost an entire squad of players under 23 that are playing at big European clubs (Barca, Borussia Dortmund, Valencia, Bayern Munich). I wouldn't be surprised if U.S.-based squad players looked at that roster and decided they needed to prove themselves in Europe to stay in the national team mix. |
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Reply | Paul Arriola of D.C United linked
at 14:16 20 Jan 2021
Again, stateside swansea supporter here. Also happen to be in the Washington D.C. area, so watched Arriola many times over the past few years.
He's an attacking player. He's only been used as a wingback or fullback in emergency situations, when D.C. United have had injuries to starters and back ups at those positions.
He's occasionally played in a more central role, but he's really an out and out winger. D.C. has been truly awful in past years, except for the 2/3 of the season when Rooney came over. Arriola is their only attacking threat.
He is just coming back from an ACL tear, which occurred in one of D.C. United's last games before the pandemic hit.
He's been a steady fixture in the U.S. national team for a few years - more so than Morris - as a winger. He's good at making runs and playing off of more central players. Arriola was a real threat for them in 2018 when Rooney was playing as their no 9 and they had a playmaker behind him as a no 10.
He's less of a finisher than Morris and much less of a physical presence (I think he's under 5'8"). He's definitely a 100% effort player though - he played all over the pitch in clearly uncomfortable positions when they were injury riddled last season. |
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Reply | Jordan Morris - Seattle Sounders
at 14:47 15 Jan 2021
Yes - I could see him thinking, "I can play for Swansea during MLS off-season, if they are promoted, great, I'm in the Premier League. If not, back to MLS."
Also, I don't see him playing as a no 10 or attacking mid. He's a forward or winger in my book. [Post edited 15 Jan 2021 14:50]
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Reply | Jordan Morris - Seattle Sounders
at 14:24 15 Jan 2021
American based Swans fan here. I've watched Morris for many years in MLS and for the USMNT.
Morris was highly touted prospect in the States, making a senior national team appearance prior to his professional debut. He tore his ACL in game 2-3 years ago and missed an entire year. He's been a fringe national team player since, and I wouldn't anticipate him making the USMNT squad in the next World Cup cycle.
He's been a consistent top player in MLS for one of the 2-3 top MLS teams. My opinion from watching a lot of MLS over the years and our games in the Championship, the overall level of the Championship is higher, but the top teams in MLS would be equivalent to promotion-level Championship squads. Seattle is one of those.
In terms of his play, he usually plays on the wing, usually left, and straight line speed is his greatest asset. I don't know if it has returned entirely to his pre-injury pace, but he is still fast. He has a good sense for making runs and putting himself in good positions in the box and finishes well from short range. I've never seen him present much as an aerial threat, although he's 6'0".
How he fits with our current squad, I don't know. He isn't a no 9, and wouldn't be at his best holding up play. I'm not sure I would rate him over Lowe, certainly not Ayew. He would definitely be an upgrade over Gyokeres as a substitute/depth. It is strange to me that he would leave Seattle and the MLS for Swansea (Seattle is his local club and he turned down an offer to move to Werder Bremen a few years ago). I guess as it's the off-season for MLS, a short term loan has little downside? |
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Reply | DC United for sale
at 19:34 31 Jul 2017
As someone who's a Swans fan but has lived in Washington DC since the mid-90s, I'd only add the following:
1) DC United were the dominant US club team in the mid-90s through 2000. Since then they have been, basically, terrible. They have also been bad since 2012 since Levien and Thohir became majority owners (2013 was the worst season in club history). There was some investment in 2014, which has led them to mid to top finishes in the conference (MLS has totally different rules than European leagues).
2) They recently, after 10+ years, got the DC city council to approve a new, football only stadium in DC. The stadium will be complete for next year's season. This will greatly increase ticket sales and local interest in the team, who have played in a dreadful old stadium that was build for American football in the 70s.
3) They recently inked a 12 year sponsorship of the stadium by Audi.
Points 2 & 3 lead me to believe that the value of the club has just dramatically increased, hence the interest in exiting by the ownership. |
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Reply | Currently over in New York
at 22:15 20 Dec 2016
As a Swans fan in America I agree with this post. I picked the Swans because I loved the style of play, attitude and spirit of the players and club after promotion and have supported them ever since. That said, American fandom of any European club is different and I wouldn't presume to understand what the club means to the community, because I can't. I can, however, support the club as best I can from abroad.
As others have said on here, American football fandom is mostly country over club. Having watched the USMNT for 25+ years, I was appalled when Bradley was hired. His style of management is a direct anathema to the Swansea Way: pragmatic, out-hustled, out endurance other teams. The style worked for the USMNT, since there isn't the talent to play any other way. For this club, however, an absolute shambles. He was sacked when the US Soccer Federation wanted to take the next step and play a more attractive brand of football (that also didn't work out very well).
The signing of Bradley has promoted the club to the US market - all the games are now on TV, never before - but that means nothing if it changes the club from what made me love it to begin with.
The new ownership has been a disaster top to bottom. They should be ashamed of the state of the club right now and every misstep is directly on them. Almost all are "unforced errors" from ownership. There are clear holes on the roster (fullbacks have been weak for 2+ years) that are never addressed. If the roster isn't substantially strengthened in January to push towards safety, I hope all fans publicly voice their displeasure in every way possible.
Our club is good enough to stay up but with this ownership and manager, I'm looking for ways to watch Championship games in the US. |
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