| Stephen Fry this morning 09:53 - Sep 10 with 2568 views | onehunglow |
Prisoners should£ be welcomed,embraced and thanked at the end of their sentence .
Thought it was worthy of comment.
I have no words really. |  |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 10:16 - Sep 10 with 1695 views | union_jack |
He is a comedian so maybe he was joking. Didn’t see it myself but I presume he wasn’t. Didn’t he do a bit of time himself? |  |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 10:22 - Sep 10 with 1683 views | Whiterockin |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 10:16 - Sep 10 by union_jack |
He is a comedian so maybe he was joking. Didn’t see it myself but I presume he wasn’t. Didn’t he do a bit of time himself? |
Would he have one to live in his home for a week on release? |  | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 10:27 - Sep 10 with 1677 views | max936 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 10:22 - Sep 10 by Whiterockin |
Would he have one to live in his home for a week on release? |
Would you want to live in his home if you was though?
He's always been a bit of an enigma. |  |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 10:41 - Sep 10 with 1659 views | onehunglow |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 10:22 - Sep 10 by Whiterockin |
Would he have one to live in his home for a week on release? |
He d love it mum
I've had an hour to think and still dumbfounded
Victims never considered | |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 11:15 - Sep 10 with 1627 views | Gwyn737 |
What did he actually say? | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 12:32 - Sep 10 with 1577 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 10:16 - Sep 10 by union_jack |
He is a comedian so maybe he was joking. Didn’t see it myself but I presume he wasn’t. Didn’t he do a bit of time himself? |
He did yeah. Stole a credit card and went on a spending spree. |  |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 12:42 - Sep 10 with 1569 views | union_jack |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 12:32 - Sep 10 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
He did yeah. Stole a credit card and went on a spending spree. |
Well, May I be the first to thank him for that  😏 | |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 13:10 - Sep 10 with 1542 views | onehunglow |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 11:15 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737 |
What did he actually say? |
As I highlighted initially.
Viz, we should embrace ,welcome AND THANK prisoners on release from sentence .
He didn’t make any exceptions either.
Not sure I’d embrace someone who wipes out someone by motor vehicle when pyssed,at least not in the way Sprephen suggests
He’s brilliant but loopy.
I have to say I’m rather empty of respect and love when it comes to prisoners | |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 13:52 - Sep 10 with 1514 views | Gwyn737 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 13:10 - Sep 10 by onehunglow |
As I highlighted initially.
Viz, we should embrace ,welcome AND THANK prisoners on release from sentence .
He didn’t make any exceptions either.
Not sure I’d embrace someone who wipes out someone by motor vehicle when pyssed,at least not in the way Sprephen suggests
He’s brilliant but loopy.
I have to say I’m rather empty of respect and love when it comes to prisoners |
Can’t seem to see it anywhere for context. | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 13:56 - Sep 10 with 1511 views | onehunglow |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 13:52 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737 |
Can’t seem to see it anywhere for context. |
It was in a discussion on Kuensburgh so easily replayed though I wouldn’t bother | |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 14:27 - Sep 10 with 1487 views | Gwyn737 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 13:56 - Sep 10 by onehunglow |
It was in a discussion on Kuensburgh so easily replayed though I wouldn’t bother |
Just watched it. I thought he was excellent.
Those words weren’t his, they were directly quoted from a letter Oscar Wilde wrote to the press after he was released.
Fry used it to make the point that only 6% of prisoners are inside for violent crimes (and says of course they should be for everyone’s safety), and that for others we should be looking at other forms of rehabilitation to try an ensure there’s less reoffending and in turn keeping future prison numbers/costs down.
Apologies for being pedantic but he’s a bit of a hero of mine and I couldn’t believe he said those things. | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 14:31 - Sep 10 with 1479 views | onehunglow |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 14:27 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737 |
Just watched it. I thought he was excellent.
Those words weren’t his, they were directly quoted from a letter Oscar Wilde wrote to the press after he was released.
Fry used it to make the point that only 6% of prisoners are inside for violent crimes (and says of course they should be for everyone’s safety), and that for others we should be looking at other forms of rehabilitation to try an ensure there’s less reoffending and in turn keeping future prison numbers/costs down.
Apologies for being pedantic but he’s a bit of a hero of mine and I couldn’t believe he said those things. |
Are you saying he didn’t say those words?
Wife watched it and he said exactly what I say .
He is a typical wispy washy lovie who should save his love for those whom are victims of crimes.
Prison is a last resort as a sentence . | |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 14:37 - Sep 10 with 1473 views | Gwyn737 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 14:31 - Sep 10 by onehunglow |
Are you saying he didn’t say those words?
Wife watched it and he said exactly what I say .
He is a typical wispy washy lovie who should save his love for those whom are victims of crimes.
Prison is a last resort as a sentence . |
He said exactly those words following this sentence:
“In Oscar Wilde’s letter to the press following his release from prison, he said…”.
So as I posted, not actually his words. | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 14:59 - Sep 10 with 1454 views | jack247 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 14:37 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737 |
He said exactly those words following this sentence:
“In Oscar Wilde’s letter to the press following his release from prison, he said…”.
So as I posted, not actually his words. |
Interesting debate.
He did reference Oscar Wilde, but he made it pretty clear he agreed with the sentiment.
They certainly have a point about overcrowding, lack of rehabilitation programs and sub standard conditions having an impact on re offending rates.
As for embracing people leaving jail, that’s way too broad a spectrum to take a holistic view on. | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 15:29 - Sep 10 with 1437 views | Gwyn737 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 14:59 - Sep 10 by jack247 |
Interesting debate.
He did reference Oscar Wilde, but he made it pretty clear he agreed with the sentiment.
They certainly have a point about overcrowding, lack of rehabilitation programs and sub standard conditions having an impact on re offending rates.
As for embracing people leaving jail, that’s way too broad a spectrum to take a holistic view on. |
We defiantly need to do something.
Rehabilitating non-violent offenders seems a sensible start. | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 15:51 - Sep 10 with 1422 views | jack247 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 15:29 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737 |
We defiantly need to do something.
Rehabilitating non-violent offenders seems a sensible start. |
Although I thought the quote went a bit far, I definitely agree with you there. | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 15:57 - Sep 10 with 1418 views | onehunglow |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 15:29 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737 |
We defiantly need to do something.
Rehabilitating non-violent offenders seems a sensible start. |
Non violent doesn’t mean the crime is any less harrowing .
Fraud is “ non violent” but ultimately lethal.
Why are we concerned with prisoners welfare when we have old people selling their homes and seeing their life savings stolen by a “ Care” home.
Why doesn’t Fry bleed for these poor buggers
I ll tell you why, because these old folk are virtually anonymous and forgotten by society.
They are prisoners ,make no mistake,in their own bedroom.
The food for prisoners is cordon blue in comparison with the horse feed care homes provide .
This subject makes me seethe frankly so Om bailing out right now. [Post edited 10 Sep 2023 15:59]
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:01 - Sep 10 with 1413 views | Gwyn737 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 15:57 - Sep 10 by onehunglow |
Non violent doesn’t mean the crime is any less harrowing .
Fraud is “ non violent” but ultimately lethal.
Why are we concerned with prisoners welfare when we have old people selling their homes and seeing their life savings stolen by a “ Care” home.
Why doesn’t Fry bleed for these poor buggers
I ll tell you why, because these old folk are virtually anonymous and forgotten by society.
They are prisoners ,make no mistake,in their own bedroom.
The food for prisoners is cordon blue in comparison with the horse feed care homes provide .
This subject makes me seethe frankly so Om bailing out right now. [Post edited 10 Sep 2023 15:59]
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It’s possible to think that non-violent criminals can use support not to reoffend so everyone wins and still be concerned on other issues.
Fry was invited onto the show to discuss prisons. It would have been odd and time consuming if he had to talk about every other topic of concern.
The prison population had doubled in the last couple of decades. Doesn’t seem to be working, does it? | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:04 - Sep 10 with 1411 views | jack247 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 15:57 - Sep 10 by onehunglow |
Non violent doesn’t mean the crime is any less harrowing .
Fraud is “ non violent” but ultimately lethal.
Why are we concerned with prisoners welfare when we have old people selling their homes and seeing their life savings stolen by a “ Care” home.
Why doesn’t Fry bleed for these poor buggers
I ll tell you why, because these old folk are virtually anonymous and forgotten by society.
They are prisoners ,make no mistake,in their own bedroom.
The food for prisoners is cordon blue in comparison with the horse feed care homes provide .
This subject makes me seethe frankly so Om bailing out right now. [Post edited 10 Sep 2023 15:59]
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I’m more concerned with them not reoffending than the living conditions when they are inside. | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:10 - Sep 10 with 1398 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 15:29 - Sep 10 by Gwyn737 |
We defiantly need to do something.
Rehabilitating non-violent offenders seems a sensible start. |
That's assuming they can be rehabilitated. Some "non violent" crimes have terrible consequences. Old people fleeced of thousands of pounds, people driven to despair and suicide.
Each crime meeds judging on its own outcomes and the punishment should fit those outcomes.
Paedophiles don't always use violence but are they any the less damaging? | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:21 - Sep 10 with 1390 views | jack247 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:10 - Sep 10 by SullutaCreturned |
That's assuming they can be rehabilitated. Some "non violent" crimes have terrible consequences. Old people fleeced of thousands of pounds, people driven to despair and suicide.
Each crime meeds judging on its own outcomes and the punishment should fit those outcomes.
Paedophiles don't always use violence but are they any the less damaging? |
Middle sentence. End of debate as far as I’m concerned. | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:25 - Sep 10 with 1389 views | KeithHaynes |
Prisons are full, terrorists, violent crimes ( what’s violent ? ) drug runners, human traffickers, bursting at the seams apparently.
I’m still trying to work out who put them there. |  |
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| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:27 - Sep 10 with 1384 views | Gwyn737 |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:10 - Sep 10 by SullutaCreturned |
That's assuming they can be rehabilitated. Some "non violent" crimes have terrible consequences. Old people fleeced of thousands of pounds, people driven to despair and suicide.
Each crime meeds judging on its own outcomes and the punishment should fit those outcomes.
Paedophiles don't always use violence but are they any the less damaging? |
I don’t disagree with any of that 👍 | | | |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 17:21 - Sep 10 with 1361 views | onehunglow |
| Stephen Fry this morning on 16:25 - Sep 10 by KeithHaynes |
Prisons are full, terrorists, violent crimes ( what’s violent ? ) drug runners, human traffickers, bursting at the seams apparently.
I’m still trying to work out who put them there. |
Themselves for anyone not understanding the state we re in.
Keith raises a good point.
Burglary is amongst the most violent of offences
Your home,it’s possessions,your privacy violated and nowadays not even visited by CID
And we worry more about the Perps.
Why?
Anyone… | |
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