| Smart motorways scrapped 19:26 - Apr 18 with 2144 views | builthjack |
Despite spending £2 billions since 2010. What a waste. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 19:55 - Apr 18 with 1743 views | onehunglow |
Many lives lost
Much money wasted
Any traffic copper would tell you the holly of expecting motorists to have the concentration to see a broken down car on a motorway
Too many lorry drivers watching farking to and plebs texting away
The ones in existence should go back immediately and those awaiting completion scrapped too |  |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 19:50 - Apr 19 with 1667 views | Kilkennyjack |
Felix hates to see govt money wasted, he will be along shortly. |  |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 20:46 - Apr 19 with 1654 views | majorraglan |
Not before time too. Therese been serious concerns for a while and allegations that governments have covered up the concerns. Quite a few people have died on account of Smart Motorways and many more injured.
Instead of doing a proper job and building new roads where they’ve defo been required, it’s been done on the cheap and now we’ve got these unsafe roads. I suspect that where the pinch points exist in relation to capacity the government are going to have to look at the options and will probably end up building additional carriageways. Buy cheap, buy twice….only now the price will have gone up by billions.
There was an article in one of the newspapers this week about the railway network, it appear Network Rail don’t have enough money to undertake the essential maintenance required to keep our “Victorian” railway system working, instead of HS2 why not divert some of the money in to fixing what we already have. | | | |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 22:21 - Apr 19 with 1642 views | onehunglow |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 19:50 - Apr 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Felix hates to see govt money wasted, he will be along shortly. |
It's indefensible
It is and was cretinous an idea
To simply stop in lane 1 on the M. 6
What planet | |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 07:12 - Apr 20 with 1595 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 19:50 - Apr 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Felix hates to see govt money wasted, he will be along shortly. |
The money is not wasted the motorways have been built and are open. The announcement is " new smart motorways scrapped" I do wish people would actually read the article before commenting.
Meanwhile over £150 million spend on the M4 relief road which has now been scapped along with all new road projects in Wales. | |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 09:47 - Apr 20 with 1553 views | NotLoyal |
Smart toilets we need, drive in ones with free toilet paper. |  |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 12:08 - Apr 20 with 1523 views | builthjack |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 09:47 - Apr 20 by NotLoyal |
Smart toilets we need, drive in ones with free toilet paper. |
They are called fields, dock leaves for toilet paper. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 08:18 - Apr 21 with 1460 views | felixstowe_jack |
The first smart motorways was opened in 2006
Research suggest that accidents and deaths per mile on Smart motorways are less than on conventional motorways.
Over 100 people per year are killed or injured on the hard shoulder of conventional motorways usually due to vehicle staying onto the hard shoulder and hitting stationary vehicles.
The question is do more refugee areas need to be built on smart motorways as the refuge areas are safer than the hard shoulder on normal motorways as they are usually built into embankments and off protection from vehicles wandering from lane one.
Another question that has to be asked is why do so many vehicles stray onto the hard shoulder. Usually due to drivers falling asleep, playing with mobiles or other devices or just bad driving.
Modern vehicles now have aids that give warnings if the driver strays from lanes and slow down automatically if you get to close to the vehicle in front and will automatically stop if lane blocked. | |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 10:49 - Apr 21 with 1420 views | magicdaps10 |
Was always going to fail, I think most people knew it when the first heard about it.
Give someone a office with 4 walls, a laptop, data and spreadsheets and the brain goes to mush.
We need real people in the real world facing the harsh reality of things day in day out in these places. |  |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 17:49 - Apr 21 with 1369 views | Whiterockin |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 08:18 - Apr 21 by felixstowe_jack |
The first smart motorways was opened in 2006
Research suggest that accidents and deaths per mile on Smart motorways are less than on conventional motorways.
Over 100 people per year are killed or injured on the hard shoulder of conventional motorways usually due to vehicle staying onto the hard shoulder and hitting stationary vehicles.
The question is do more refugee areas need to be built on smart motorways as the refuge areas are safer than the hard shoulder on normal motorways as they are usually built into embankments and off protection from vehicles wandering from lane one.
Another question that has to be asked is why do so many vehicles stray onto the hard shoulder. Usually due to drivers falling asleep, playing with mobiles or other devices or just bad driving.
Modern vehicles now have aids that give warnings if the driver strays from lanes and slow down automatically if you get to close to the vehicle in front and will automatically stop if lane blocked. |
The amount of money, work and distribution that has gone into smart motorways, how much more would it have cost just to put an extra lane. |  | | |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 21:34 - Apr 21 with 1358 views | Dr_Winston |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 17:49 - Apr 21 by Whiterockin |
The amount of money, work and distribution that has gone into smart motorways, how much more would it have cost just to put an extra lane. |
Probably a hell of a lot more than £2bn over 12 years.
What needs to be looked at is speed limits on A roads to provide an alternative to using the motorways. |  |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 22:59 - Apr 21 with 1323 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 21:34 - Apr 21 by Dr_Winston |
Probably a hell of a lot more than £2bn over 12 years.
What needs to be looked at is speed limits on A roads to provide an alternative to using the motorways. |
Unfortunately the greens and environmentalist are against any new road project anywhere in the UK.
It is also government policy in Wales. | |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 23:39 - Apr 21 with 1305 views | Fireboy2 |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 21:34 - Apr 21 by Dr_Winston |
Probably a hell of a lot more than £2bn over 12 years.
What needs to be looked at is speed limits on A roads to provide an alternative to using the motorways. |
Have you ever seen the devastation of a RTC on an A road?
And you want make them faster 🙄 |  | | |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 23:47 - Apr 21 with 1302 views | Fireboy2 |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 22:59 - Apr 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately the greens and environmentalist are against any new road project anywhere in the UK.
It is also government policy in Wales. |
And there he goes again, slating the welsh labour government when he doesn't live in Wales. | | | |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 08:38 - Apr 22 with 1274 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 23:47 - Apr 21 by Fireboy2 |
And there he goes again, slating the welsh labour government when he doesn't live in Wales. |
No but I try to run a business in Wales and travel to Wales often to watch the Swansea. I also use the motorway network including the 4 mile stretch of the M4 either side of the Brynglas tunnels which were widen to three lanes which don't have hard shoulders.
The Welsh government have had 20 years to build the M4 relief road and deserve all the critism they get.
You are welcome to your opion if you think that cancelling all road building projects is good for Wales. [Post edited 22 Apr 2023 8:47]
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 09:04 - Apr 22 with 1248 views | PawelAbbott |
I had to do one of those Speed Awareness courses a few years back and in it the conversation turned to Smart Motorways. The guy taking the course was adamant that they were safer.
He argued like crazy that people would follow what the signs said and not use the outer lane if the sign said not to.
This was a guy who made his living from giving courses to people who hadn't followed what the road sign said when it told them what speed to do.
It was always going to be incredibly dangerous to have to stop your car in a lane that was generally an active traffic lane. | | | |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 09:47 - Apr 22 with 1230 views | Dr_Winston |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 23:39 - Apr 21 by Fireboy2 |
Have you ever seen the devastation of a RTC on an A road?
And you want make them faster 🙄 |
I said it needs to be looked at. Obviously not all will be suitable. Some may be suitable in part.
The Heads of the Valleys road has had hundreds of millions spent on it to convert it into a modern dual carriageway, but now has a 50mph limit. Why?
If I'm travelling to my head office in Pontypridd the HoV road would be a viable alternative to the M4 if the national speed limit for a dual carriageway was applied. [Post edited 22 Apr 2023 9:52]
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 10:24 - Apr 22 with 1217 views | Fireboy2 |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 09:47 - Apr 22 by Dr_Winston |
I said it needs to be looked at. Obviously not all will be suitable. Some may be suitable in part.
The Heads of the Valleys road has had hundreds of millions spent on it to convert it into a modern dual carriageway, but now has a 50mph limit. Why?
If I'm travelling to my head office in Pontypridd the HoV road would be a viable alternative to the M4 if the national speed limit for a dual carriageway was applied. [Post edited 22 Apr 2023 9:52]
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Good point, I never use the m6, m5 and heads of valleys anymore as it takes an age.
I use the 56 then travel using the roads via wrexham, oswestry, welshpool, llandod as its far quicker.
I never comment on the heads of valleys topic as I never use it | | | |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 10:27 - Apr 22 with 1216 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 09:47 - Apr 22 by Dr_Winston |
I said it needs to be looked at. Obviously not all will be suitable. Some may be suitable in part.
The Heads of the Valleys road has had hundreds of millions spent on it to convert it into a modern dual carriageway, but now has a 50mph limit. Why?
If I'm travelling to my head office in Pontypridd the HoV road would be a viable alternative to the M4 if the national speed limit for a dual carriageway was applied. [Post edited 22 Apr 2023 9:52]
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Apparently the 50 mph speed limit on the newest section of the A465 between Brynmawr and the Clydach gorge was according to Drakeford because it was a new section of road and motorist would not be used to it so for safety reasons motorist should slow down to 50mph. You can of course speed upto 70 mph again when you get back onto the other sections that are dual carriageways. | |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 12:21 - Apr 22 with 1195 views | Whiterockin |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 10:24 - Apr 22 by Fireboy2 |
Good point, I never use the m6, m5 and heads of valleys anymore as it takes an age.
I use the 56 then travel using the roads via wrexham, oswestry, welshpool, llandod as its far quicker.
I never comment on the heads of valleys topic as I never use it |
I bet you bomb it on the "big dipper" between Newbridge on wye and Beulah.  | | | |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 12:30 - Apr 22 with 1187 views | builthjack |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 10:27 - Apr 22 by felixstowe_jack |
Apparently the 50 mph speed limit on the newest section of the A465 between Brynmawr and the Clydach gorge was according to Drakeford because it was a new section of road and motorist would not be used to it so for safety reasons motorist should slow down to 50mph. You can of course speed upto 70 mph again when you get back onto the other sections that are dual carriageways. |
What do you think of the 50mph motorways in England?
There are lots of them. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 12:36 - Apr 22 with 1184 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 12:30 - Apr 22 by builthjack |
What do you think of the 50mph motorways in England?
There are lots of them. |
The speed limit on all English motorways is 70mph which is the national UK Speed limit. Some motorways have variable speed limits which are changed where there is a high level of congestion or bad weather conditions.
Nowhere in England, to my knowledge has a permanent 50mph limit unlike large parts of the M4 in Wales. | |
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 13:08 - Apr 22 with 1180 views | Whiterockin |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 12:36 - Apr 22 by felixstowe_jack |
The speed limit on all English motorways is 70mph which is the national UK Speed limit. Some motorways have variable speed limits which are changed where there is a high level of congestion or bad weather conditions.
Nowhere in England, to my knowledge has a permanent 50mph limit unlike large parts of the M4 in Wales. |
The only one I know is the M1 near Sheffield and that is 60mph for pollution reduction. By many regarded as the best speed across the majority of vehicles to reduce pollution. | | | |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 13:09 - Apr 22 with 1179 views | onehunglow |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 12:21 - Apr 22 by Whiterockin |
I bet you bomb it on the "big dipper" between Newbridge on wye and Beulah. |
Great road that for driving but awful for a passenger .
I’ve done it on a motor bike and it’s rather exhilarating .
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| Smart motorways scrapped on 13:23 - Apr 22 with 1175 views | Fireboy2 |
| Smart motorways scrapped on 12:21 - Apr 22 by Whiterockin |
I bet you bomb it on the "big dipper" between Newbridge on wye and Beulah. |
Oh yes, it's a decent drop 🤣 | | | |
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