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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. 13:02 - Dec 12 with 2035 viewslifelong

Drowned in lake in the West Midlands. .. horrific.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 13:10 - Dec 12 with 1363 viewsbuilthjack

Absolutely awful

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 14:05 - Dec 12 with 1330 viewspencoedjack

Very sad news.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 14:24 - Dec 12 with 1317 viewsFlashberryjack

Tragic, can't even imagine how the families are coping.

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 15:42 - Dec 12 with 1292 viewsonehunglow

Indeed.
Every time I walk past a frozen pond ,this lurks in my brain .
It’s a truly horrific thing

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 15:47 - Dec 12 with 1275 viewsA_Fans_Dad

2 girls were seen on another frozen lake in Wimbledon today.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11528487/Two-schoolgirls-spotted-playin

They just seem to see the danger.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 15:51 - Dec 12 with 1286 viewsunion_jack

Desperately sad. BBC news presenter Joanne Gosling apparently choked up breaking the news.

Why don’t we have public information films showing the dangers that are all around us. I still have nightmares thinking about the film showing a football going over into a sub station and the consequences when I was a youngster. Surely there should be something like that for both going in/on a lake in icy or hot circumstances. Both have caused lives to be lost this year.

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 16:25 - Dec 12 with 1262 viewsWhiterockin

My heart sank when I heard it on the lunchtime news. Having grandchildren the same age it really hit home. I'm sure there were always warnings on tv regarding this and other dangers when I was young, it doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 16:41 - Dec 12 with 1247 viewsCatullus

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 15:51 - Dec 12 by union_jack

Desperately sad. BBC news presenter Joanne Gosling apparently choked up breaking the news.

Why don’t we have public information films showing the dangers that are all around us. I still have nightmares thinking about the film showing a football going over into a sub station and the consequences when I was a youngster. Surely there should be something like that for both going in/on a lake in icy or hot circumstances. Both have caused lives to be lost this year.


Yeah, she needed a moetn to compose herslef, I had a tear too.

Confirmed report of a policeman with hypothermia after desperately tryint to rescue them, other police and emergency services up to their waists in the dangerously cold waters trying to find them and 2 are still missing.

Just before Christmas. Every time I see a story like this I choke up a bit.

Just my opinion, but WTF do I know anyway?
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 16:44 - Dec 12 with 1235 viewsonehunglow

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 16:41 - Dec 12 by Catullus

Yeah, she needed a moetn to compose herslef, I had a tear too.

Confirmed report of a policeman with hypothermia after desperately tryint to rescue them, other police and emergency services up to their waists in the dangerously cold waters trying to find them and 2 are still missing.

Just before Christmas. Every time I see a story like this I choke up a bit.


This is why Police and other services are special .

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 16:49 - Dec 12 with 1228 viewsFireboy2

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 14:24 - Dec 12 by Flashberryjack

Tragic, can't even imagine how the families are coping.


This ^

I feel sick even thinking about it.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 16:52 - Dec 12 with 1224 viewsFireboy2

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 15:47 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad

2 girls were seen on another frozen lake in Wimbledon today.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11528487/Two-schoolgirls-spotted-playin

They just seem to see the danger.


Just got an email from my boys school, it said that a couple concerned parent saw 3 kids on a lake near us, absolutely shocking, I'm sure some parents don't pass on any knowledge to their kids,
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 17:24 - Dec 12 with 1200 viewsCatullus

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 16:52 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2

Just got an email from my boys school, it said that a couple concerned parent saw 3 kids on a lake near us, absolutely shocking, I'm sure some parents don't pass on any knowledge to their kids,
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Maybe so but we all know kids don't always listen and some kids will always do what they have been warned not to.

Swimming in quarries, jumping off bridges into rivers...they don't see the dangers just the challenge.

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 17:43 - Dec 12 with 1184 viewsFireboy2

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 17:24 - Dec 12 by Catullus

Maybe so but we all know kids don't always listen and some kids will always do what they have been warned not to.

Swimming in quarries, jumping off bridges into rivers...they don't see the dangers just the challenge.


Quite right Cat but when sh!t like this happens you would think that parents would warn their kids, I know I do.

We do alot of preventative work and one of the incident types we target is swimming in lakes, rivers and quarries in the summer plus playing on lakes which have frozen.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 17:48 - Dec 12 with 1171 viewsonehunglow

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 17:43 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2

Quite right Cat but when sh!t like this happens you would think that parents would warn their kids, I know I do.

We do alot of preventative work and one of the incident types we target is swimming in lakes, rivers and quarries in the summer plus playing on lakes which have frozen.


You mention quarries quite rightly as those in North Wales are lethal.
Kids do not consider the depth nor the coldness of water nor the hidden obstacles .

Boy was drowned in Cockett quarry once and my dad did work for undertakers firm and he went to collect the body.
I never forgot his face coming home

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 18:22 - Dec 12 with 1138 viewsSirjohnalot

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 17:48 - Dec 12 by onehunglow

You mention quarries quite rightly as those in North Wales are lethal.
Kids do not consider the depth nor the coldness of water nor the hidden obstacles .

Boy was drowned in Cockett quarry once and my dad did work for undertakers firm and he went to collect the body.
I never forgot his face coming home


Can’t imagine having to deal with this, would affect you for life
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 19:36 - Dec 12 with 1097 viewsCatullus

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 17:43 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2

Quite right Cat but when sh!t like this happens you would think that parents would warn their kids, I know I do.

We do alot of preventative work and one of the incident types we target is swimming in lakes, rivers and quarries in the summer plus playing on lakes which have frozen.


What I thought was nice today, the firemen who helped search the lake went to lay flowers and they got an ovation. Despite the tragedy those people still found it in themselves to thank those heroes for their efforts.

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 19:49 - Dec 12 with 1090 viewsFireboy2

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 19:36 - Dec 12 by Catullus

What I thought was nice today, the firemen who helped search the lake went to lay flowers and they got an ovation. Despite the tragedy those people still found it in themselves to thank those heroes for their efforts.


It's our job mate, we like the police and paramedics know what we can expect to deal with when we join, everyone I know are like me, empathetic, we join to help people.

Those firefighters and police will get offered counselling to help them cope with what they had to deal with yesterday, I attended a double fatal the other week and the repercussions for the crew who attended have been massive, the worst incident I've ever been to, we have had lots of help with dealing with the incident and the people councelling us have been brilliant, the brave coppers and firefighters will get similar help and they will need it.

I feel far more sorry for the parents of the boys, their lives will never be the same, they too will get help but that will never take away the pain of losing their boys.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 19:56 - Dec 12 with 1077 viewsSirjohnalot

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 19:49 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2

It's our job mate, we like the police and paramedics know what we can expect to deal with when we join, everyone I know are like me, empathetic, we join to help people.

Those firefighters and police will get offered counselling to help them cope with what they had to deal with yesterday, I attended a double fatal the other week and the repercussions for the crew who attended have been massive, the worst incident I've ever been to, we have had lots of help with dealing with the incident and the people councelling us have been brilliant, the brave coppers and firefighters will get similar help and they will need it.

I feel far more sorry for the parents of the boys, their lives will never be the same, they too will get help but that will never take away the pain of losing their boys.
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This is why I could never have done your job. I’ve not the bravery or the emotional intelligence to have lasted a month.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 20:06 - Dec 12 with 1060 viewsFlashberryjack

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 19:49 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2

It's our job mate, we like the police and paramedics know what we can expect to deal with when we join, everyone I know are like me, empathetic, we join to help people.

Those firefighters and police will get offered counselling to help them cope with what they had to deal with yesterday, I attended a double fatal the other week and the repercussions for the crew who attended have been massive, the worst incident I've ever been to, we have had lots of help with dealing with the incident and the people councelling us have been brilliant, the brave coppers and firefighters will get similar help and they will need it.

I feel far more sorry for the parents of the boys, their lives will never be the same, they too will get help but that will never take away the pain of losing their boys.
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Unfortunately I can't find the salute emoji, words either seem inadequate or patronising.

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 20:23 - Dec 12 with 1038 viewsonehunglow

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 19:56 - Dec 12 by Sirjohnalot

This is why I could never have done your job. I’ve not the bravery or the emotional intelligence to have lasted a month.


Eddie and I have sadly fallen out of love but I really respect he does for a living .
I see all the emergency services as special in every way

In my day,the only counselling was to go to the club and get hammered . If yiu showed weakness you were hammered and told to toughen up.

Worst I’ve been involved with was a triple fatal RTA and the interaction with bereaved families is not easy .

I also once had to give a death message to a woman who had lost both her husband and only son in a car crash .

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 10:00 - Dec 13 with 929 viewscontroversial_jack

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 16:44 - Dec 12 by onehunglow

This is why Police and other services are special .


We would all do the same.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 10:51 - Dec 13 with 911 viewsonehunglow

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 10:00 - Dec 13 by controversial_jack

We would all do the same.


Wrong
It’s also the case th emergency services are trained to do such work.

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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 11:01 - Dec 13 with 894 viewscontroversial_jack

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 10:51 - Dec 13 by onehunglow

Wrong
It’s also the case th emergency services are trained to do such work.


So you are saying, that posters in here would just stand back and let kids drown? Call the police and then just stand by and watch?

Everyone in here would try their best to rescue kids, it happens all the time when there are no emergency services around. I have done it myself on several occasions.I haven't had to break ice, but you don't need training to do that.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 11:53 - Dec 13 with 883 viewsFireboy2

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 11:01 - Dec 13 by controversial_jack

So you are saying, that posters in here would just stand back and let kids drown? Call the police and then just stand by and watch?

Everyone in here would try their best to rescue kids, it happens all the time when there are no emergency services around. I have done it myself on several occasions.I haven't had to break ice, but you don't need training to do that.


At the double fatal incident I went to recently, people in cars just drove past the incident not giving a flying fvck, all they were bothered about was getting home, it's lucky the three very brave people stopped their cars on the slip road of the motorway and got out tp try and help, if it weren't for those three two more people would have died.

Yes some people would try and get the kids out but most people would sh!t themselves, the emergency services are trained to go into situations like that and we also have the equipment that makes it safer for us to enter freezing cold water, people have drowned doing exactly what you would do.
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3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 12:03 - Dec 13 with 871 viewscontroversial_jack

3 Boys aged 8,11 and 12. on 11:53 - Dec 13 by Fireboy2

At the double fatal incident I went to recently, people in cars just drove past the incident not giving a flying fvck, all they were bothered about was getting home, it's lucky the three very brave people stopped their cars on the slip road of the motorway and got out tp try and help, if it weren't for those three two more people would have died.

Yes some people would try and get the kids out but most people would sh!t themselves, the emergency services are trained to go into situations like that and we also have the equipment that makes it safer for us to enter freezing cold water, people have drowned doing exactly what you would do.


So what happens to all the ppl in trouble when the emergency services are not called. PPL in trouble get saved by passers by everyday of the year.

I'm not saying i would be gung ho or would be anymore effective than anyone else, but I would do my best the same as anyone in here would.

I helped talk a guy down from jumping off llangyfelach bridge a while ago. I also called the police and it took them half an hour to respond. Myself and some others did our best and it worked, before the police even arrived
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