| Raducanu update 02:59 - Mar 25 with 2089 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Big debate on here a while back regarding her ability as one of the games best female players, a suggestion that staggered me.
Today she goes out in the first round of Miami losing to Siniakova, a decent but all in all pretty average Czech player who won’t be pulling up any trees any time soon.
This after last week losing in her second round to Petra Martic at Indian Wells, again another decent but pretty average player.
Since the US Open:-
Indian Wells - First round exit
Transylvania Open - Third round exit
Linz Open - First round exit
Sydney International - First round exit
Australian Open - Second round exit
Guadalajara- First round exit
Indian Wells - Second round exit
Miami - First round exit
Going to dominate the game like Serena is what some said. 
I maintain she will never get to another Grand Slam final in her career, let alone win dozens. Bookmark it.
A freak week, but it has set her up for life and afforded her the best of the best when it comes to being able to put a team together and develop physically.
I do expect improvement over the coming years as a result, but nothing dramatic. Late this year and next year her ranking should tumble as she won’t be able to defend the points she has earned, and I suspect she will stay around the top 25-40 for years to come.
A nice career for herself but not even in the conversation when we are talking about the best players, and I’m talking present day… let alone of all time. |  |
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| Raducanu update on 09:57 - Mar 25 with 1799 views | Best_loser |
Its only a few months since she won the us open , she is 19 , there is no dominant player in the women's game right now , quite a few who have won gran slams in recent years have struggled after , when she retires and if she has not won another grand slam then Parnassus can say I told you so |  | | |
| Raducanu update on 10:46 - Mar 25 with 1767 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Raducanu update on 09:57 - Mar 25 by Best_loser |
Its only a few months since she won the us open , she is 19 , there is no dominant player in the women's game right now , quite a few who have won gran slams in recent years have struggled after , when she retires and if she has not won another grand slam then Parnassus can say I told you so |
I don’t think that’s true at all. Unless you are talking about players who got serious injuries such as Andreescu or Kenin.
The vast majority, if not all female Grand Slam winners in recent times have continued to perform well off the back of it.
Who are you referring to specifically? | |
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| Raducanu update on 10:52 - Mar 25 with 1763 views | Best_loser |
| Raducanu update on 10:46 - Mar 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
I don’t think that’s true at all. Unless you are talking about players who got serious injuries such as Andreescu or Kenin.
The vast majority, if not all female Grand Slam winners in recent times have continued to perform well off the back of it.
Who are you referring to specifically? |
Andreescu , Kennin, ostapenko , swiatek | | | |
| Raducanu update on 11:18 - Mar 25 with 1746 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Raducanu update on 10:52 - Mar 25 by Best_loser |
Andreescu , Kennin, ostapenko , swiatek |
What? 
Andreescu tore here knee ligaments almost right after she won and was out pretty much until recently, but got the Quarter Finals of her very next tournament after her US Open win. She didn’t struggle at all, she got injured.
Kenin got injured and was out for the game for almost a whole season, but still after her Aussie Open win she then went on to make the Final of the French Open a few months later. She didn’t struggle.
Swiatek is now World Number 1 of active players now Barty has retired and looks every bit the best player on the planet. Strange one to pick?
Ostapenko went on to get to the Quarter Finals of Wimbledon, went on to win another title that year and another couple of semis. She didn’t struggle after it either, and nobody expected much from her as she, like Raducanu, isn’t that good. | |
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| Raducanu update on 11:31 - Mar 25 with 1733 views | Best_loser |
| Raducanu update on 11:18 - Mar 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
What?
Andreescu tore here knee ligaments almost right after she won and was out pretty much until recently, but got the Quarter Finals of her very next tournament after her US Open win. She didn’t struggle at all, she got injured.
Kenin got injured and was out for the game for almost a whole season, but still after her Aussie Open win she then went on to make the Final of the French Open a few months later. She didn’t struggle.
Swiatek is now World Number 1 of active players now Barty has retired and looks every bit the best player on the planet. Strange one to pick?
Ostapenko went on to get to the Quarter Finals of Wimbledon, went on to win another title that year and another couple of semis. She didn’t struggle after it either, and nobody expected much from her as she, like Raducanu, isn’t that good. |
None of them have won a second grand slam , yes some had injuries but that doesn't mean they would have won any without the injury , I'm talking about slams , radacanu not doing well within a few months of winning the us open is far to early to judge , lets wait and see shall we | | | |
| Raducanu update on 12:05 - Mar 25 with 1707 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Raducanu update on 11:31 - Mar 25 by Best_loser |
None of them have won a second grand slam , yes some had injuries but that doesn't mean they would have won any without the injury , I'm talking about slams , radacanu not doing well within a few months of winning the us open is far to early to judge , lets wait and see shall we |
Not winning another slam doesn’t mean they are struggling, far from it. One is world number one and will almost certainly win Slam after Slam. Without question, bookmark that too if you like. (swiatek).
My judgement isn’t on her not winning another Slam, it’s her general poor play and her awful results prior to and after the tournament. You don’t need to wait and see to talk about them, they are documented fact right in front of our faces. | |
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| Raducanu update on 14:42 - Mar 25 with 1680 views | Cleddau |
How has the girl that Radacanu beat in the final performed since? I seem to remember she took the bigger scalps on the way to the final. |  | | |
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| Raducanu update on 15:12 - Mar 25 with 1671 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
You can only beat who is in front of you and she did that so she thoroughly deserved to win that grand slam. But it does have the feel of Cardiff city’s run in the 2008 fa cup about it. | | | |
| Raducanu update on 17:03 - Mar 25 with 1639 views | Lorax |
Raducanu got lucky, it all fell into place for her very nicely.
There is a habit to overhype a player off the back of an early success, it happens in football, Rugby, many sports, a player has one good tournament or season and all of a sudden they are world class.
It take success over a prolonged period before you should be considered top class. People do jump the gun.
Mind you, Dr P does love to remind us when he's right too. | | | |
| Raducanu update on 10:46 - Mar 26 with 1574 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Raducanu update on 17:03 - Mar 25 by Lorax |
Raducanu got lucky, it all fell into place for her very nicely.
There is a habit to overhype a player off the back of an early success, it happens in football, Rugby, many sports, a player has one good tournament or season and all of a sudden they are world class.
It take success over a prolonged period before you should be considered top class. People do jump the gun.
Mind you, Dr P does love to remind us when he's right too. |
That sounds like a poster of experience and not one 3 days old 
What was your old username out of interest? | |
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| Raducanu update on 13:08 - Mar 26 with 1538 views | Lorax |
| Raducanu update on 10:46 - Mar 26 by Dr_Parnassus |
That sounds like a poster of experience and not one 3 days old
What was your old username out of interest? |
You obviously didn't see the thread "AFKAC" but it's OK, you can't know everything. | | | |
| Raducanu update on 10:47 - Mar 27 with 1460 views | onehunglow |
| Raducanu update on 17:03 - Mar 25 by Lorax |
Raducanu got lucky, it all fell into place for her very nicely.
There is a habit to overhype a player off the back of an early success, it happens in football, Rugby, many sports, a player has one good tournament or season and all of a sudden they are world class.
It take success over a prolonged period before you should be considered top class. People do jump the gun.
Mind you, Dr P does love to remind us when he's right too. |
I agree with you until you got into personal crap-again.No need ,man.
Radacanu will not win another Open .She did indeed get lucky when all serious opposition was eliminated. To receive SPOTY shows how deeply screwed up is that programme,now well pat it's shelf life. | |
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| Raducanu update on 11:04 - Mar 27 with 1454 views | Lorax |
| Raducanu update on 10:47 - Mar 27 by onehunglow |
I agree with you until you got into personal crap-again.No need ,man.
Radacanu will not win another Open .She did indeed get lucky when all serious opposition was eliminated. To receive SPOTY shows how deeply screwed up is that programme,now well pat it's shelf life. |
Oh give it a rest mun. I've pointed out a fact, not hurled abuse and look, he hasn't even denied it. | | | |
| Raducanu update on 11:15 - Mar 27 with 1447 views | onehunglow |
| Raducanu update on 11:04 - Mar 27 by Lorax |
Oh give it a rest mun. I've pointed out a fact, not hurled abuse and look, he hasn't even denied it. |
Morning Champ | |
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| Raducanu update on 11:24 - Mar 27 with 1447 views | Lorax |
| Raducanu update on 11:15 - Mar 27 by onehunglow |
Morning Champ |
Morning dad. | | | |
| Raducanu update on 11:30 - Mar 27 with 1443 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Raducanu update on 11:04 - Mar 27 by Lorax |
Oh give it a rest mun. I've pointed out a fact, not hurled abuse and look, he hasn't even denied it. |
Didn’t really bother me enough to reply really.
Being right doesn’t matter to me. Showing trolls to be wrong is a more apt motivation. Trolls that only took a certain position because I had another.
Proving myself right is a byproduct of proving them wrong. | |
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| Raducanu update on 11:35 - Mar 27 with 1440 views | Lorax |
| Raducanu update on 11:30 - Mar 27 by Dr_Parnassus |
Didn’t really bother me enough to reply really.
Being right doesn’t matter to me. Showing trolls to be wrong is a more apt motivation. Trolls that only took a certain position because I had another.
Proving myself right is a byproduct of proving them wrong. |
Someone can disagree with your position, it doesn't make them a troll.
As an afterthought, the original comment didn't bother you enough to comment but pointing out it didn't bothered you enough to draw a reply saying it didn't bother you? [Post edited 27 Mar 2022 11:38]
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| Raducanu update on 11:52 - Mar 27 with 1421 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Raducanu update on 11:35 - Mar 27 by Lorax |
Someone can disagree with your position, it doesn't make them a troll.
As an afterthought, the original comment didn't bother you enough to comment but pointing out it didn't bothered you enough to draw a reply saying it didn't bother you? [Post edited 27 Mar 2022 11:38]
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Absolutely, but I am not referring to people who disagree in a sensible manner with clear reasoning and logic.
I'm talking about the usual mob who say ''hahaha you know nothing, WRONG''. Those kinds of people.
You seemed curious about my lack of reply and misinterpreted it as meaning I was in agreement. I thought I would add context as to why I didn't reply. | |
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| Raducanu update on 14:17 - Mar 27 with 1371 views | onehunglow |
| Raducanu update on 11:24 - Mar 27 by Lorax |
Morning dad. |
lol.
My own l"lad" used to come along to home away game until he read comments from our fans plus the anti English garbage didnt help. It's why my missus would never ever come along now nor step anywhere near the stadium .co. Internet comments can really damage . | |
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| Raducanu update on 19:23 - Mar 27 with 1310 views | Lorax |
| Raducanu update on 11:52 - Mar 27 by Dr_Parnassus |
Absolutely, but I am not referring to people who disagree in a sensible manner with clear reasoning and logic.
I'm talking about the usual mob who say ''hahaha you know nothing, WRONG''. Those kinds of people.
You seemed curious about my lack of reply and misinterpreted it as meaning I was in agreement. I thought I would add context as to why I didn't reply. |
The context was you proving those who disagreed with you are wrong which is exactly the same as saying you are right! | | | |
| Raducanu update on 04:41 - Mar 29 with 1230 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Raducanu update on 19:23 - Mar 27 by Lorax |
The context was you proving those who disagreed with you are wrong which is exactly the same as saying you are right! |
Nope it isn’t, the motivations are not the same.
If I had a desire to fly into space on a homemade rocket, the byproduct of that is that I would die as I cannot build rockets adequately to sustain my life once in orbit.
Carrying out that desire is not from a motivation to die. It’s simply an acceptable byproduct for reaching the initial goal.
So here I am wanting to show the trolls have absolutely no clue. It’s proved me correct in the process but that was never under any doubt, that just happens to be a byproduct, it’s my profession and I’m at the top of my field - of course I know my stuff.  | |
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| Raducanu update on 10:21 - Mar 29 with 1184 views | Lorax |
| Raducanu update on 04:41 - Mar 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Nope it isn’t, the motivations are not the same.
If I had a desire to fly into space on a homemade rocket, the byproduct of that is that I would die as I cannot build rockets adequately to sustain my life once in orbit.
Carrying out that desire is not from a motivation to die. It’s simply an acceptable byproduct for reaching the initial goal.
So here I am wanting to show the trolls have absolutely no clue. It’s proved me correct in the process but that was never under any doubt, that just happens to be a byproduct, it’s my profession and I’m at the top of my field - of course I know my stuff. |
That's a false comparison, if you didn't want to die then how is it an acceptable by product?
Whereas your constant desire to prove people wrong carries the guarantee of proving you are right, assuming you are right and they are wrong, and you revel in it, calling people trolls along the way.
Of course your own ego won't allow you to accept that notion. The same ego that has you believing, openly stating at times that you only talk common sense and logic.
If you didn't want to die, where is the common sense in building that rocket?
The size of the ego is definitely not in doubt as seen by your comment " It’s proved me correct in the process but that was never under any doubt" because y'know, even people who are indisputably at the top of their field can be wrong. Knowing your stuff doesn't guarantee being right, specially when you are discussing stuff outside your field.
We can all be wrong, no matter who we are. Right that's enough now, I'm not getting caught in another quicksand debate with you. I've made my point though no doubt you'll disagree. | | | |
| Raducanu update on 10:56 - Mar 29 with 1174 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Raducanu update on 10:21 - Mar 29 by Lorax |
That's a false comparison, if you didn't want to die then how is it an acceptable by product?
Whereas your constant desire to prove people wrong carries the guarantee of proving you are right, assuming you are right and they are wrong, and you revel in it, calling people trolls along the way.
Of course your own ego won't allow you to accept that notion. The same ego that has you believing, openly stating at times that you only talk common sense and logic.
If you didn't want to die, where is the common sense in building that rocket?
The size of the ego is definitely not in doubt as seen by your comment " It’s proved me correct in the process but that was never under any doubt" because y'know, even people who are indisputably at the top of their field can be wrong. Knowing your stuff doesn't guarantee being right, specially when you are discussing stuff outside your field.
We can all be wrong, no matter who we are. Right that's enough now, I'm not getting caught in another quicksand debate with you. I've made my point though no doubt you'll disagree. |
You have painted that scenario yourself though. I didn’t state anything about a desire to die, only that I found it an acceptable byproduct of reaching the intended goal. That’s the context I used.
So if my ultimate goal was to get into orbit there would be a host of other byproducts of that which is find an acceptable trade off, death being one of them. Or in our case, proving myself right.
So if everyone agreed Raducanu wasn’t that great this update wouldn’t exist, so proving myself right is not the motivation. This exists because my initial thread was trolled into oblivion by certain individuals.
My ego is a separate subject matter all together and has no bearing on Raducanu being the dominant female tennis player or not - that seems to be clouding your responses. Me having a huge ego or having no ego would not alter the reality of Emma’s tennis abilities.
So as I said, the motivation was not to prove myself correct, that would be an incorrect assumption. The motivation is to show the trolls have no clue what they are on about and time will always prove them to be that.
If I’m wrong then explain how I’m wrong, if I’m right then what are you moaning about?
Easy. [Post edited 29 Mar 2022 10:57]
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| Raducanu update on 00:24 - Mar 30 with 1102 views | Treforys_Jack |
Back on subject, I don't think anyone can doubt you were spot on with this young lady. |  | | |
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