| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? 11:00 - Feb 3 with 1145 views | SwansIndependent |
 Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? 3rd Feb 2022 10:58The players that were lost, Matt O’Riley, Ryan Longman and Ryan Giles are history, the way that Swansea City managed those potential transfers is not. Clubs will always have a long memory when it comes to dealings with other entities. Leeds United from three years back is a prime example and Dan James.  0
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 11:04 - Feb 3 with 1129 views | Thornburyswan |
Not for me - at least not yet anyway but that could change if they see no improvement over the next 3/4 months. | | | |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 11:13 - Feb 3 with 1103 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I don’t think there is much they can do even if they have lost faith. We appear to be severely strapped for cash. We are pretty much backed into a corner with him now either way.
Hence why I want critique, culpability and action. I want tough questions asked of him where the stock standard “building”, “dominated” and “the project” things aren’t trotted out and accepted without challenge.
We need to make it work with Martin, but that won’t happen if there is a culture where we don’t look any further than our possession stats. That cannot be the barometer of a good performance and it certainly shouldn’t be used as a metric to suggest there is no issues with the style and to keep it the same.
We need results on the board now. If he doesn’t feel he has the players to play a style he wants then he needs to manage the situation and change it to fit what we have, that’s literally his job. |  |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 11:30 - Feb 3 with 1061 views | vetchonian |
I would guess there may be a concern with the American owners in how things are shqpng up
DOnt forget they will not be looking at things as we fans would...they are results driven and are looking for a return
We have already spent more this season than over the last two where the owners would have seen us as succesful yet this season we seem to be slipping down the table
I guess we are working to some contstraints financially and the fact we did nt move Fulton or Dhanda on meant we hadnt met the criteria we expected to bring in other players...not forgetting WOlf will not be cheap and he seem to have appeared from nowhere.
I think yes the reminder is to the owners more than the fans...as whilst it seems thew "dissenters" are possibly in the minority the tide seems to be turning.
For me I am not convinced given MArtins previous history and what we have seen to date. He is a great talker and as others point out he repeats a script.
He is an idealist both in and out of football and there is nothing wrong with that though sometimes ideals need to be compromised to deal with the realities of situations I am not sure if MArtin will make those compromises or "adjustments" to achieve aome short term results whilst working to wards his long term goal. | |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 12:03 - Feb 3 with 989 views | sw02sea |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 11:13 - Feb 3 by Dr_Parnassus |
I don’t think there is much they can do even if they have lost faith. We appear to be severely strapped for cash. We are pretty much backed into a corner with him now either way.
Hence why I want critique, culpability and action. I want tough questions asked of him where the stock standard “building”, “dominated” and “the project” things aren’t trotted out and accepted without challenge.
We need to make it work with Martin, but that won’t happen if there is a culture where we don’t look any further than our possession stats. That cannot be the barometer of a good performance and it certainly shouldn’t be used as a metric to suggest there is no issues with the style and to keep it the same.
We need results on the board now. If he doesn’t feel he has the players to play a style he wants then he needs to manage the situation and change it to fit what we have, that’s literally his job. |
Couldn’t agree more.
As much as I wasn’t a fan of Cooperball, at least you could see what his plan was, and his organisational skills, in dealing with the players at his disposal.
You didn’t see square pegs in round holes.
Half the season has gone. RM needs to up his game by at least 50% to achieve half of what the previous manager did.
You can’t keep loosing if your a football manager, irrespective of what level your playing at.
It’s ok to have a one eyed vision of the style you want, but it the players you’ve got aren’t suited to it, and they stop buying into “The Project” then your in big trouble. | | | |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 12:27 - Feb 3 with 940 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 12:03 - Feb 3 by sw02sea |
Couldn’t agree more.
As much as I wasn’t a fan of Cooperball, at least you could see what his plan was, and his organisational skills, in dealing with the players at his disposal.
You didn’t see square pegs in round holes.
Half the season has gone. RM needs to up his game by at least 50% to achieve half of what the previous manager did.
You can’t keep loosing if your a football manager, irrespective of what level your playing at.
It’s ok to have a one eyed vision of the style you want, but it the players you’ve got aren’t suited to it, and they stop buying into “The Project” then your in big trouble. |
Yep. People talk about this period where we write off the results almost as collateral damage.
But they aren’t thinking of the consequences and realities of doing that.
Winning and league position play a huge part in retention and acquisition of players. Would we have got Piroe if we weren’t a team coming off the back of two play off finishes to get the the Premier League? Maybe not.
Players within this squad will be talking, you can be absolutely sure of that. Being made to play a way that yields no results affecting their win bonus game after game after game. Whatever anyone tries to say, there will be discontent within the ranks, no question about it.
That doesn’t mean disruption (although maybe it does when it comes to Pato). But I just simply will not believe we don’t have some disgruntled players at the moment with the way we are being forced to play and the continuous outcome of that, and then paying for that with their own contractual bonuses not being hit.
Winning breeds confidence and confidence breeds performances. It’s very easy to get sucked into a pattern of failure. | |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 12:33 - Feb 3 with 930 views | onehunglow |
They are simply feeling as regular fans are.
Let down by a very articulate but essentially a nonentity as a coach. None of our players are improved. Many have gone backwards .Any difficult or challenging players are shunned not helped.
Joseph could be the next Whittaker.
It shows the rubbish spouted by sky pundits is insulting to us.
And yeah,we are stuck with him and must pray he leaves this summer of his own volition .. | |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 14:35 - Feb 3 with 758 views | KeithHaynes |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 12:33 - Feb 3 by onehunglow |
They are simply feeling as regular fans are.
Let down by a very articulate but essentially a nonentity as a coach. None of our players are improved. Many have gone backwards .Any difficult or challenging players are shunned not helped.
Joseph could be the next Whittaker.
It shows the rubbish spouted by sky pundits is insulting to us.
And yeah,we are stuck with him and must pray he leaves this summer of his own volition .. |
Which he won’t. |  |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 15:26 - Feb 3 with 682 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
January 2019 Potter lost Ryan Woods when the owners failed to stump up £7m.
He sulked. - Potter walked in June
January 2021 Cooper sent back Goykeres and did not play Peterson and wanted a centre forward. Did not get one. Sulked. Walked in June.
January 2022 Martin wanted Longman and O"Reilly but did not shift Dhanda and Fulton.
Did not sulk and got on with it. |  |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 15:30 - Feb 3 with 678 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 15:26 - Feb 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
January 2019 Potter lost Ryan Woods when the owners failed to stump up £7m.
He sulked. - Potter walked in June
January 2021 Cooper sent back Goykeres and did not play Peterson and wanted a centre forward. Did not get one. Sulked. Walked in June.
January 2022 Martin wanted Longman and O"Reilly but did not shift Dhanda and Fulton.
Did not sulk and got on with it. |
I think Martin may have consoled himself with the £5.5m investment in his squad this season.
Not to mention June still hasn’t come. Neither Potter or Cooper walked in Feb, they got on with it. | |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 16:17 - Feb 3 with 649 views | Whiterockin |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 15:26 - Feb 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
January 2019 Potter lost Ryan Woods when the owners failed to stump up £7m.
He sulked. - Potter walked in June
January 2021 Cooper sent back Goykeres and did not play Peterson and wanted a centre forward. Did not get one. Sulked. Walked in June.
January 2022 Martin wanted Longman and O"Reilly but did not shift Dhanda and Fulton.
Did not sulk and got on with it. |
It's not June yet. |  | | |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 17:14 - Feb 3 with 609 views | vetchonian |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 15:30 - Feb 3 by Dr_Parnassus |
I think Martin may have consoled himself with the £5.5m investment in his squad this season.
Not to mention June still hasn’t come. Neither Potter or Cooper walked in Feb, they got on with it. |
And Cooper took some preseason too...I know we were paying him but that doesnt sound like a sulk to me..whilst Paterson ? | |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 19:35 - Feb 3 with 553 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 15:30 - Feb 3 by Dr_Parnassus |
I think Martin may have consoled himself with the £5.5m investment in his squad this season.
Not to mention June still hasn’t come. Neither Potter or Cooper walked in Feb, they got on with it. |
You missed the point again.
What happened in June 19 and June 21 was signalled in the preceding presser 1 February.
There were no such signals on Feb 1 2022. | |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 19:59 - Feb 3 with 534 views | Catullus |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 15:26 - Feb 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
January 2019 Potter lost Ryan Woods when the owners failed to stump up £7m.
He sulked. - Potter walked in June
January 2021 Cooper sent back Goykeres and did not play Peterson and wanted a centre forward. Did not get one. Sulked. Walked in June.
January 2022 Martin wanted Longman and O"Reilly but did not shift Dhanda and Fulton.
Did not sulk and got on with it. |
My mistake, I thought potter was pinched by Brighton, if they hadn't come in for him he'd have stayed until someone else came, in my opinion.
Cooper point blank refused to walk it seems to me, he obviously wanted out but he didn't quit, he came to an agreement with the owners that saw him take part f preseason, not a sulk there either, really.
Both of them could say their stock was much higher than Martins is right now too. | |
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| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 21:38 - Feb 3 with 486 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Are the Americans losing faith in Russell Martin ? on 19:35 - Feb 3 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You missed the point again.
What happened in June 19 and June 21 was signalled in the preceding presser 1 February.
There were no such signals on Feb 1 2022. |
Come on, you have had a mare here. | |
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