| Incredible on 23:10 - Mar 27 with 2976 views | max936 |
For that alone Drakeford and his cronies should be banished from these shores, they probably couldn't find any legitimate project in Cardiff for them to spend the 155 million on, its disgusting when there are multiple places in Wales as to where that money could have been put to very good use.
Although didn't Sunak say he was gonna reclaim monies that had been allocated to Wales, in that lockdown speech during that party at Downing St.? [Post edited 27 Mar 2023 23:14]
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| Incredible on 23:15 - Mar 27 with 2970 views | majorraglan |
Reading the article it seems the WG wanted to transfer the money from a budget which was underspent to the capital and infrastructure budget which was overspent to the tune of £149m which I’d have thought made sense. That said, the ducks should have been lined up and this sorted well before hand.
What does infuriate me is why do councils, public bodies, governments, have to spend their budget before the end of a financial year? I’ve seen incidents where money has had to be spent or returned when it could have been carried over by the budget holder and used more productively. Its madness. [Post edited 27 Mar 2023 23:15]
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| Incredible on 23:32 - Mar 27 with 2957 views | max936 |
| Incredible on 23:15 - Mar 27 by majorraglan |
Reading the article it seems the WG wanted to transfer the money from a budget which was underspent to the capital and infrastructure budget which was overspent to the tune of £149m which I’d have thought made sense. That said, the ducks should have been lined up and this sorted well before hand.
What does infuriate me is why do councils, public bodies, governments, have to spend their budget before the end of a financial year? I’ve seen incidents where money has had to be spent or returned when it could have been carried over by the budget holder and used more productively. Its madness. [Post edited 27 Mar 2023 23:15]
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155 million is small potatoes compared to the billions that this Tory Government have wasted, that said Drippy Dreadful has been in power long enough to have known the rules and procedures. | |
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| Incredible on 08:24 - Mar 28 with 2892 views | Boundy |
| Incredible on 23:32 - Mar 27 by max936 |
155 million is small potatoes compared to the billions that this Tory Government have wasted, that said Drippy Dreadful has been in power long enough to have known the rules and procedures. |
That 155 million came from central government in the first place, just think of how many more trees could have been given away or farms bought with that money | |
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| Incredible on 08:31 - Mar 28 with 2890 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Incredible on 08:24 - Mar 28 by Boundy |
That 155 million came from central government in the first place, just think of how many more trees could have been given away or farms bought with that money |
Just wonder if anyone will remind Drakeford the next time he asks the UK government for more money. | |
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| Incredible on 08:34 - Mar 28 with 2887 views | Whiterockin |
| Incredible on 23:15 - Mar 27 by majorraglan |
Reading the article it seems the WG wanted to transfer the money from a budget which was underspent to the capital and infrastructure budget which was overspent to the tune of £149m which I’d have thought made sense. That said, the ducks should have been lined up and this sorted well before hand.
What does infuriate me is why do councils, public bodies, governments, have to spend their budget before the end of a financial year? I’ve seen incidents where money has had to be spent or returned when it could have been carried over by the budget holder and used more productively. Its madness. [Post edited 27 Mar 2023 23:15]
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| Incredible on 08:40 - Mar 28 with 2882 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Incredible on 23:15 - Mar 27 by majorraglan |
Reading the article it seems the WG wanted to transfer the money from a budget which was underspent to the capital and infrastructure budget which was overspent to the tune of £149m which I’d have thought made sense. That said, the ducks should have been lined up and this sorted well before hand.
What does infuriate me is why do councils, public bodies, governments, have to spend their budget before the end of a financial year? I’ve seen incidents where money has had to be spent or returned when it could have been carried over by the budget holder and used more productively. Its madness. [Post edited 27 Mar 2023 23:15]
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It seems to have been this way in the public sector for ever, what I don't understand is how the Senedd that is always complaining about lack of funds can underspend? |  |
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| Incredible on 10:36 - Mar 28 with 2838 views | controversial_jack |
Where will this money that Westminster has stolen go to? [Post edited 28 Mar 2023 10:37]
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| Incredible on 10:51 - Mar 28 with 2832 views | Whiterockin |
| Incredible on 10:36 - Mar 28 by controversial_jack |
Where will this money that Westminster has stolen go to? [Post edited 28 Mar 2023 10:37]
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If you know anything about how government funding works you would not call it stealing. The bigger issue for me is because this money has not been spent it could mean that the money received from Westminster could be reduced next round of funding. Normally if you don't spend it all you don't get more next time. | | | |
| Incredible on 10:54 - Mar 28 with 2829 views | Scotia |
| Incredible on 23:15 - Mar 27 by majorraglan |
Reading the article it seems the WG wanted to transfer the money from a budget which was underspent to the capital and infrastructure budget which was overspent to the tune of £149m which I’d have thought made sense. That said, the ducks should have been lined up and this sorted well before hand.
What does infuriate me is why do councils, public bodies, governments, have to spend their budget before the end of a financial year? I’ve seen incidents where money has had to be spent or returned when it could have been carried over by the budget holder and used more productively. Its madness. [Post edited 27 Mar 2023 23:15]
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I hate the entire system of "the financial year", the worst thing about it in my experience is the haste to spend at the end of the year, I've seen thousands spent on items that aren't needed just to demonstrate money has been spent.
Having said that this is a shocking situation for WG to find themselves in. As I understand this was from the revenue budget so could have been sent on anything not considered to be a capitol investment, and the process of it being taken back by Westminster lasted a few months. Rebecca Evans is very lucky to be in her job, but most of them are. | | | |
| Incredible on 11:07 - Mar 28 with 2825 views | Whiterockin |
| Incredible on 10:54 - Mar 28 by Scotia |
I hate the entire system of "the financial year", the worst thing about it in my experience is the haste to spend at the end of the year, I've seen thousands spent on items that aren't needed just to demonstrate money has been spent.
Having said that this is a shocking situation for WG to find themselves in. As I understand this was from the revenue budget so could have been sent on anything not considered to be a capitol investment, and the process of it being taken back by Westminster lasted a few months. Rebecca Evans is very lucky to be in her job, but most of them are. |
Exactly. The amount of equipment council departments buy and put into storage to maintain their budget levels is massive. It also happens in Senedd funded operations, the waste is incredible. Before anyone says its nothing compared to Westminster waste, its true, but it doesn't make it acceptable. | | | |
| Incredible on 11:43 - Mar 28 with 2807 views | Kilkennyjack |
For anyone interested in how this happened see below.
‘While the WG was £357.9m under on revenue it was £149.1m over on capital.
The Welsh Gov suggested they could offset this. The money is all allocated to Wales just in different pots and would still have meant a net underspend of £208.8m.
Yet the UK Government rejected this idea’.
Its a terrible outcome and WG have to do better. |  |
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| Incredible on 12:29 - Mar 28 with 2787 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Incredible on 11:43 - Mar 28 by Kilkennyjack |
For anyone interested in how this happened see below.
‘While the WG was £357.9m under on revenue it was £149.1m over on capital.
The Welsh Gov suggested they could offset this. The money is all allocated to Wales just in different pots and would still have meant a net underspend of £208.8m.
Yet the UK Government rejected this idea’.
Its a terrible outcome and WG have to do better. |
Just think the money could have been updating Wales crumbling infrastructure. Could have paid to start the M4 relief road or electrification on the South Wales mainline beyond Cardiff. Meanwhile the Welsh government is electrifying all the small branch lines running into Cardiff. | |
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| Incredible on 12:32 - Mar 28 with 2787 views | Flashberryjack |
It doesn't matter if the amount of money sent back to Westminster was a £155 million or £155 billion, the Welsh people will still vote Drakeford and his band of clowns into power.
And the clowns at the Senedd know that, that's why they don't give a f*ck how many cock ups they make. |  |
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| Incredible on 14:03 - Mar 28 with 2748 views | Boundy |
| Incredible on 12:29 - Mar 28 by felixstowe_jack |
Just think the money could have been updating Wales crumbling infrastructure. Could have paid to start the M4 relief road or electrification on the South Wales mainline beyond Cardiff. Meanwhile the Welsh government is electrifying all the small branch lines running into Cardiff. |
Why is this drive to waste money electrifying a railway line for the minority of the travelling public . I compare that idea with the disgraceful waste of money and the destruction of hundreds of thousands of acres of land just to cut the travelling time by half an hour , all the challenges this country faces could be eliminated if we had a local and national government who knew what the hell they were doing | |
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| Incredible on 16:16 - Mar 28 with 2718 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Incredible on 12:29 - Mar 28 by felixstowe_jack |
Just think the money could have been updating Wales crumbling infrastructure. Could have paid to start the M4 relief road or electrification on the South Wales mainline beyond Cardiff. Meanwhile the Welsh government is electrifying all the small branch lines running into Cardiff. |
Your Liz Truss’s disastrous mini-budget cost the uk a staggering £30bn. | |
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| Incredible on 16:26 - Mar 28 with 2717 views | max936 |
| Incredible on 12:29 - Mar 28 by felixstowe_jack |
Just think the money could have been updating Wales crumbling infrastructure. Could have paid to start the M4 relief road or electrification on the South Wales mainline beyond Cardiff. Meanwhile the Welsh government is electrifying all the small branch lines running into Cardiff. |
i prefer to think that that money could have been spent on the Welsh NHS and who could have passed some of it onto the Caring sector, in the NHS. | |
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| Incredible on 16:39 - Mar 28 with 2703 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Incredible on 16:26 - Mar 28 by max936 |
i prefer to think that that money could have been spent on the Welsh NHS and who could have passed some of it onto the Caring sector, in the NHS. |
Yep, i agree. | |
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| Incredible on 16:42 - Mar 28 with 2696 views | controversial_jack |
| Incredible on 16:26 - Mar 28 by max936 |
i prefer to think that that money could have been spent on the Welsh NHS and who could have passed some of it onto the Caring sector, in the NHS. |
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| Incredible on 17:10 - Mar 28 with 2691 views | Kilkennyjack |
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| Incredible on 18:13 - Mar 28 with 2668 views | pencoedjack |
| Incredible on 16:26 - Mar 28 by max936 |
i prefer to think that that money could have been spent on the Welsh NHS and who could have passed some of it onto the Caring sector, in the NHS. |
The NHS have just received a decent pay rise, improving infrastructure would help in bringing business / tourists to Wales.
Instead we don’t build a relief road, drop the speed limit to 50 mph for large parts of the M4 & now look at introducing tolls on the M4.
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| Incredible on 22:38 - Mar 28 with 2592 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Incredible on 16:16 - Mar 28 by Kilkennyjack |
Your Liz Truss’s disastrous mini-budget cost the uk a staggering £30bn. |
Did it? Any evidence or just you bigotry. Thankfully the financial markets don't believe you as the pound Continues to rise against the Euro and the dollar and the market reached a record high before the banking crisis in the USA.
Talking about the banking crisis which happened under Brown due to lack of government regulation the banks were bailed out at a cost of £137 billion by the Labour government. | |
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| Incredible on 22:51 - Mar 28 with 2588 views | Boundy |
| Incredible on 22:38 - Mar 28 by felixstowe_jack |
Did it? Any evidence or just you bigotry. Thankfully the financial markets don't believe you as the pound Continues to rise against the Euro and the dollar and the market reached a record high before the banking crisis in the USA.
Talking about the banking crisis which happened under Brown due to lack of government regulation the banks were bailed out at a cost of £137 billion by the Labour government. |
Didn't' he also gave away the country's gold reserves | |
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| Incredible on 23:55 - Mar 28 with 2576 views | majorraglan |
| Incredible on 08:40 - Mar 28 by JACKMANANDBOY |
It seems to have been this way in the public sector for ever, what I don't understand is how the Senedd that is always complaining about lack of funds can underspend? |
They underspent in one budget and over sent in the other and wanted to transfer the funds to balance the books. [Post edited 28 Mar 2023 23:55]
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