| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? 11:00 - Jan 9 with 1215 views | SwansIndependent |
 Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? 9th Jan 2023 11:00Jack Butty has steered his creaky old ship on to the rocks just off St Ives for his views on the current state of affairs at the swansea.com stadium. Just like Russell Martin he see’s not a lot out there imminently, but holds on to that glimmer of hope that there is time still to be rescued.  0
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 13:04 - Jan 9 with 1119 views | Boundy |
my humble opinion without a freshening up of the the players & managers' attitude and either a reconcilation of Obafemi & Patterson or fresh decent player brought in to replace said two I feel we'll drift into mid table mediocrity and be grateful for it | |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 13:06 - Jan 9 with 1116 views | Fireboy2 |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 13:04 - Jan 9 by Boundy |
my humble opinion without a freshening up of the the players & managers' attitude and either a reconcilation of Obafemi & Patterson or fresh decent player brought in to replace said two I feel we'll drift into mid table mediocrity and be grateful for it |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 14:05 - Jan 9 with 1045 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
For me below 10th is not acceptable. Martin has promised development and growth. Every month of "work on the training ground" must benefit the team as a whole if is genuine good work. Every transfer window must benefit the team. Below 10th indicates the methodology is not working either from it being a poor methodology or poor implementation. (coaching). In this case management changes are appropriate. Minimum changing of back up staff.
Sloppy passing must be ended. It is part of the English leagues system but not the route Swansea are going down. Pass accuracy must be spot on and brain f@rts eradicated.
I do not want to hear of recurring "loss of intensity" "lack of energy" " the players were tired" "the players partied too much" (bizarrely). From the outside and interpreting comments made in Press conferences Martin must learn that cutting certain players slack does not work as they will kick you in the gut. It seems the penny may have dropped.
On the plus side i like to see in house players progressing like Benda, Ollie Cooper, Cullen, and Cabango. I accept that this may result in lower league position as their experience grows. Congreve and Cotterill have been seen match day squads with minutes here and there.
10-13th shows no progress and Martin will have to justify his methods as they are on the face of it not working.
7-10th shows progress. Development of academy players makes this a lower expectation range progress.
3-6th shows significant progress and demonstrates the ship is on the right course.
Even with 2-3 decent signing I predict 7-10th finish. This is where another 'visionary' Potter finished not quite making the play offs after an exciting but frustrating draw against Frank Lampard's Derby. Martin's academy imports are not as good as the ones Potter had and there is no Routledge.
The post season discussion will then be focused in improving implementation and execution of game plans rather than changing of game plans. A 'barking' assistant applying discipline might be useful to curtail those dozy moments that Latibeaudiere had in the first 20 second v Norwich with a pass 10 yard short. Manning repeated that sloppiness on Sunday. [Post edited 9 Jan 2023 14:38]
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 15:13 - Jan 9 with 1002 views | Flashberryjack |
We are a lower table championship team, and that's where I expect us to finish. |  |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 18:35 - Jan 9 with 928 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 14:05 - Jan 9 by ReslovenSwan1 |
For me below 10th is not acceptable. Martin has promised development and growth. Every month of "work on the training ground" must benefit the team as a whole if is genuine good work. Every transfer window must benefit the team. Below 10th indicates the methodology is not working either from it being a poor methodology or poor implementation. (coaching). In this case management changes are appropriate. Minimum changing of back up staff.
Sloppy passing must be ended. It is part of the English leagues system but not the route Swansea are going down. Pass accuracy must be spot on and brain f@rts eradicated.
I do not want to hear of recurring "loss of intensity" "lack of energy" " the players were tired" "the players partied too much" (bizarrely). From the outside and interpreting comments made in Press conferences Martin must learn that cutting certain players slack does not work as they will kick you in the gut. It seems the penny may have dropped.
On the plus side i like to see in house players progressing like Benda, Ollie Cooper, Cullen, and Cabango. I accept that this may result in lower league position as their experience grows. Congreve and Cotterill have been seen match day squads with minutes here and there.
10-13th shows no progress and Martin will have to justify his methods as they are on the face of it not working.
7-10th shows progress. Development of academy players makes this a lower expectation range progress.
3-6th shows significant progress and demonstrates the ship is on the right course.
Even with 2-3 decent signing I predict 7-10th finish. This is where another 'visionary' Potter finished not quite making the play offs after an exciting but frustrating draw against Frank Lampard's Derby. Martin's academy imports are not as good as the ones Potter had and there is no Routledge.
The post season discussion will then be focused in improving implementation and execution of game plans rather than changing of game plans. A 'barking' assistant applying discipline might be useful to curtail those dozy moments that Latibeaudiere had in the first 20 second v Norwich with a pass 10 yard short. Manning repeated that sloppiness on Sunday. [Post edited 9 Jan 2023 14:38]
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I can agree with a lot of that BUT brain farts will always happen and passes will go astray when under pressure. it's the nature of the game and that won't change.
If the worlds best players can make mistakes then so can ours. Mistakes aside what we really need is better decision making. No more silly, suicidal passes or Benda taking on defenders. Make the best choice in any circumstance and you start eliminating silly goals against us. | | | |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 19:14 - Jan 9 with 896 views | EagleEye |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 13:04 - Jan 9 by Boundy |
my humble opinion without a freshening up of the the players & managers' attitude and either a reconcilation of Obafemi & Patterson or fresh decent player brought in to replace said two I feel we'll drift into mid table mediocrity and be grateful for it |
We are already mid table mediocrity. If there is no freshening up we will sink further down the league with continued inconsistency setting the tone for a bigger struggle next season |  | | |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 19:48 - Jan 9 with 856 views | NotLoyal |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 19:14 - Jan 9 by EagleEye |
We are already mid table mediocrity. If there is no freshening up we will sink further down the league with continued inconsistency setting the tone for a bigger struggle next season |
Can’t see it, we have too much class where it counts. |  |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 20:59 - Jan 9 with 797 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 15:13 - Jan 9 by Flashberryjack |
We are a lower table championship team, and that's where I expect us to finish. |
We are, but we shouldn’t be.
This squad is playoff material, no question. |  |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 21:19 - Jan 9 with 813 views | lifelong |
To have any chance we must stop this suicidal football of playing out from the back. |  | | |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 08:41 - Jan 10 with 696 views | Whiterockin |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 21:19 - Jan 9 by lifelong |
To have any chance we must stop this suicidal football of playing out from the back. |
We won't stop it we just have to do it quicker, better and cut out the mistakes. |  | | |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 08:59 - Jan 10 with 675 views | onehunglow |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 21:19 - Jan 9 by lifelong |
To have any chance we must stop this suicidal football of playing out from the back. |
Indeed so and it worries me that if we were to carry on as we are and in a relegation scrap,our esteemed coach would simply carry on as he is and 5at would see us down.
Anyone not believing we COUlD go down is nuts.
We are more likely to be in a relegation scrap than promotion. Nobody can seriously say that we could go up as we are. You could post it but it would be for forum consumption only .
I pray we stay up and somehow another club attracts him so he can make them a proper club too.
Our owners however are the biggest issue and always have been | |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 09:10 - Jan 10 with 665 views | Whiterockin |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 08:59 - Jan 10 by onehunglow |
Indeed so and it worries me that if we were to carry on as we are and in a relegation scrap,our esteemed coach would simply carry on as he is and 5at would see us down.
Anyone not believing we COUlD go down is nuts.
We are more likely to be in a relegation scrap than promotion. Nobody can seriously say that we could go up as we are. You could post it but it would be for forum consumption only .
I pray we stay up and somehow another club attracts him so he can make them a proper club too.
Our owners however are the biggest issue and always have been |
Imo the owners are doing an excellent job, we are being run sustainably while many are running up debts they can't afford.
Take the negative blinkers off, we won't go down, deep down you know it, but it doesn't fit your narrative. | | | |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 09:22 - Jan 10 with 647 views | KeithHaynes |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 08:59 - Jan 10 by onehunglow |
Indeed so and it worries me that if we were to carry on as we are and in a relegation scrap,our esteemed coach would simply carry on as he is and 5at would see us down.
Anyone not believing we COUlD go down is nuts.
We are more likely to be in a relegation scrap than promotion. Nobody can seriously say that we could go up as we are. You could post it but it would be for forum consumption only .
I pray we stay up and somehow another club attracts him so he can make them a proper club too.
Our owners however are the biggest issue and always have been |
FA Cup run may affect our top six spot by Feb 20th. Give me an extra week. |  |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 10:27 - Jan 10 with 605 views | builthjack |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 09:22 - Jan 10 by KeithHaynes |
FA Cup run may affect our top six spot by Feb 20th. Give me an extra week. |
I would be more than happy if we are top 8 and within 3 points of 6th going into the International break in March. |  |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 10:29 - Jan 10 with 604 views | onehunglow |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 10:27 - Jan 10 by builthjack |
I would be more than happy if we are top 8 and within 3 points of 6th going into the International break in March. |
I would be very surprised to see us anywhere near 8th from top. If so,then great. | |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 15:23 - Jan 10 with 541 views | controversial_jack |
Push on from what, mediocrity? We need to be doing better than 1 win in 11. It's fortunate that the league this season is so poor or we would be down the bottom | | | |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 16:11 - Jan 10 with 525 views | felixstowe_jack |
W9ndet if there is a stat that shows how many goals we have conceded, after a sloppy pass around our own penalty area, this season. | |
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 16:32 - Jan 10 with 507 views | heatwave |
One win in 11 suggests not.
Even 2 or 3 new players will not change where we are as a team.
Pushing on suggest further progress.
Progress is not where we are at if league positions are a yard stick. |  | | |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 16:50 - Jan 10 with 491 views | Dr_Winston |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 09:10 - Jan 10 by Whiterockin |
Imo the owners are doing an excellent job, we are being run sustainably while many are running up debts they can't afford.
Take the negative blinkers off, we won't go down, deep down you know it, but it doesn't fit your narrative. |
Not sure how sustainably we are run at the moment if Silverstein and co keep having to put cash in, but you can imagine the rabid howls of protest if they stopped doing even that.
We're still highly unlikely to go down as you say, but it's hard to see things improving no matter who we bring in with such a dogmatic, inflexible and it would appear uptight manager. If we'd signed a player like Whittaker, most would be keen to see what he can do. Russy, having already written him off, receives the gift like a grenade with no pin in it.
Things have to change. Either RM's attitude and approach or RM himself. No matter how many people want to point the finger at Paterson and Obafemi, far too many players are finding themselves on the shitlist for it to be purely down to them. He's reminding me a lot of Garry Monk. Proud, unwilling to learn and able to carry ten times his bodyweight in grudges. [Post edited 10 Jan 2023 17:27]
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 18:21 - Jan 10 with 439 views | onehunglow |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 09:10 - Jan 10 by Whiterockin |
Imo the owners are doing an excellent job, we are being run sustainably while many are running up debts they can't afford.
Take the negative blinkers off, we won't go down, deep down you know it, but it doesn't fit your narrative. |
Please don’t spoil matters by getting personal.
I stand by every word,so I will leave it there .
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| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 19:24 - Jan 11 with 328 views | EagleEye |
| Can Swansea City push on in the new year ? on 19:48 - Jan 9 by NotLoyal |
Can’t see it, we have too much class where it counts. |
Sadly our league position, current form, class players at exit door, refusals to sign contract extensions, loan signings returning to their clubs, no movement in or out tells me you are a tad over optimistic. Certainly not enough class in this squad to put together a promotion charge … imo | | | |
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