| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids 20:00 - Aug 23 with 3258 views | SwansIndependent |
 Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids 23rd Aug 2022 19:57Swansea City are readying themselves for bids for their out of form striker Joel Piroe. Sources we speak to close to the club have stated there is a genuine belief that bids far short of what the club would accept will be made in the coming week. And they also believe half of the eighteen million pounds the swans want may well turn the majority owners heads.  1
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:23 - Aug 23 with 2349 views | builthjack |
Has to be a minimum £12m plus at least £6m add ons.
Anything less will be another kick in the teeth from the owners to the fans. |  |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:27 - Aug 23 with 2335 views | Sirjohnalot |
So depressing, what’s going to happen when we haven’t got two £10m plus players to sell ? |  | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:30 - Aug 23 with 2326 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:23 - Aug 23 by builthjack |
Has to be a minimum £12m plus at least £6m add ons.
Anything less will be another kick in the teeth from the owners to the fans. |
Say what you like about Jenkins he new how to get a good deal for a player.
This lot on the other hand do tend to cave in fairly easily.
If we are honest with ourselves the club needs freshening up owners manager and playing staff | |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:32 - Aug 23 with 2319 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:27 - Aug 23 by Sirjohnalot |
So depressing, what’s going to happen when we haven’t got two £10m plus players to sell ? |
We have less to spend or the debt goes up simple really. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 20:36]
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:36 - Aug 23 with 2306 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:32 - Aug 23 by guthrieintherain |
We have less to spend or the debt goes up simple really. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 20:36]
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They are being sensible. Long term financial security of the club, can’t be gambled away but if we go down anyway….
I guess if that happens at least we will be in a better financial position than say Cardiff | | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:40 - Aug 23 with 2286 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:36 - Aug 23 by Sirjohnalot |
They are being sensible. Long term financial security of the club, can’t be gambled away but if we go down anyway….
I guess if that happens at least we will be in a better financial position than say Cardiff |
Yes I am all for sustainability.
But there does seem to be a black cloud hanging over the club at the moment.
I can't be the only one who wishes the season was starting this weekend.
I will be at the game Saturday hoping for better things.
Can't be worse than Luton surely. | |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:43 - Aug 23 with 2278 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:30 - Aug 23 by guthrieintherain |
Say what you like about Jenkins he new how to get a good deal for a player.
This lot on the other hand do tend to cave in fairly easily.
If we are honest with ourselves the club needs freshening up owners manager and playing staff |
Jenkins valued Ben Davies at a third of the price of Luke Shaw. The current lot held out for £45m for Sigurdsson. |  |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:50 - Aug 23 with 2252 views | Boundy |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:23 - Aug 23 by builthjack |
Has to be a minimum £12m plus at least £6m add ons.
Anything less will be another kick in the teeth from the owners to the fans. |
and you think they care what we think , a couple of million a year in the black makes a return on their "investment" all the more palatable | |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:07 - Aug 23 with 2209 views | Sirjohnalot |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:40 - Aug 23 by guthrieintherain |
Yes I am all for sustainability.
But there does seem to be a black cloud hanging over the club at the moment.
I can't be the only one who wishes the season was starting this weekend.
I will be at the game Saturday hoping for better things.
Can't be worse than Luton surely. |
Really enjoyed Blackpool and Rotherham, that left me so flat. Not angry, just flat. | | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:18 - Aug 23 with 2170 views | QJumpingJack |
Piroe's slow start to the season may help any potential buyer in terms of price... | | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:28 - Aug 23 with 2134 views | swan65split |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:18 - Aug 23 by QJumpingJack |
Piroe's slow start to the season may help any potential buyer in terms of price... |
10 and decreasing maybe? |  | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:38 - Aug 23 with 2095 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:23 - Aug 23 by builthjack |
Has to be a minimum £12m plus at least £6m add ons.
Anything less will be another kick in the teeth from the owners to the fans. |
Examples please?
James, Rodon, McBurnie, were all good value deals in hindsight. McBurnie has bombed Rodon has struggled and James is reportedly worth £20m and Swansea sold him for £15m.
Downes has been told to up his game at a whopping £14m valuation.
Roberts was in his last year and a low baller and Lowe was too cheap. However these sales funded Piroe and Obafemi. Wheeling and dealing and good trading.
Generally selling is not an issue for Swansea. The problem is incomings. Sorinola looks at the moment a dud added to Bennett, Fisher maybe. Swansea have not got to grips with recruitment since after 2017 when Carlos C took charge. [Post edited 23 Aug 2022 21:39]
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:48 - Aug 23 with 2063 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:18 - Aug 23 by QJumpingJack |
Piroe's slow start to the season may help any potential buyer in terms of price... |
A player who's form dips because of transfer speculation is one that some clubs would stray well v clear of. He has a lot out prove with out issues of motivation and commitment. Patterson comes to mind also on this front. No one would pay a fee for him despite the best form of his life. | |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:53 - Aug 23 with 2050 views | PawelAbbott |
Any offer around the £9-10m with a few addons and he is gone.
He looks like a player who was told "one good season and you'll be in the Prem.", it hasn't happened so far and he isn't fancying it. Possibly thinks the club have priced him out of it. | | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 22:22 - Aug 23 with 1968 views | jasper_T |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:18 - Aug 23 by QJumpingJack |
Piroe's slow start to the season may help any potential buyer in terms of price... |
Only if we panic and undervalue him, as many fans seem to be doing. | | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 22:27 - Aug 23 with 1963 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 21:53 - Aug 23 by PawelAbbott |
Any offer around the £9-10m with a few addons and he is gone.
He looks like a player who was told "one good season and you'll be in the Prem.", it hasn't happened so far and he isn't fancying it. Possibly thinks the club have priced him out of it. |
Spot on. |  |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 06:00 - Aug 24 with 1809 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 20:43 - Aug 23 by Dr_Winston |
Jenkins valued Ben Davies at a third of the price of Luke Shaw. The current lot held out for £45m for Sigurdsson. |
Jenkins was involved in the swap deal Davies and Vorm for Sigurddson.
He was also the CEO when we sold Sigurddson for 42.5m.
Where he failed spectacularly was how that money got spent.
Also his last play was to reject the Leeds offer for Dan James.
We then went onto sell him for 15m later on. [Post edited 24 Aug 2022 6:03]
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 07:14 - Aug 24 with 1764 views | Dr_Winston |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 06:00 - Aug 24 by guthrieintherain |
Jenkins was involved in the swap deal Davies and Vorm for Sigurddson.
He was also the CEO when we sold Sigurddson for 42.5m.
Where he failed spectacularly was how that money got spent.
Also his last play was to reject the Leeds offer for Dan James.
We then went onto sell him for 15m later on. [Post edited 24 Aug 2022 6:03]
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It is claimed that his last play was to reject the James deal. Given his track record it's a claim that I have a hard time believing. Jenkins was no longer in total control when we sold Sigurdsson. If he had been Siggy would have gone for £30m tops. Just like when he caved and sold Bony for about £10m less than we should have got.
As I've said many times, the current ownership have a lot to answer for, but I don't see the sense in making things up to add more fuel to the fire. Jenkins was always weak in transfer negotiations. We have generally held out for much higher fees since 2016 than we did before. | |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 07:36 - Aug 24 with 1729 views | guthrieintherain |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 07:14 - Aug 24 by Dr_Winston |
It is claimed that his last play was to reject the James deal. Given his track record it's a claim that I have a hard time believing. Jenkins was no longer in total control when we sold Sigurdsson. If he had been Siggy would have gone for £30m tops. Just like when he caved and sold Bony for about £10m less than we should have got.
As I've said many times, the current ownership have a lot to answer for, but I don't see the sense in making things up to add more fuel to the fire. Jenkins was always weak in transfer negotiations. We have generally held out for much higher fees since 2016 than we did before. |
Not making anything up Jenkins was the CEO for you to say that price was not down to him is conjecture. I am happy that the club is run in a sensible sustainable way by the way.
Just to add though the timing of the Sigurdsson deal was not great dragged on throughout the summer and we then panicked and wasted the money.
Traditionally though we have always had good prices for our players it's the buying where we are failing. | |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 08:37 - Aug 24 with 1664 views | jojaca |
The last 10 plus years we have been one of the most successful clubs in the transfer market. We just went off the rails towards the end of our premier league era resigning players like Bony and Ayew . We should have stuck to our principals even in the premier league and bought young with potential, it was always inevitable we would go down but it wasn't worth risking the finances. It's still a mystery, why clubs run the risk financial ruin paying these over the top wages. The premier league is stage any young footballer would like to showcase their talents even on low wages. |  |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 11:29 - Aug 24 with 1509 views | Luther27 |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 08:37 - Aug 24 by jojaca |
The last 10 plus years we have been one of the most successful clubs in the transfer market. We just went off the rails towards the end of our premier league era resigning players like Bony and Ayew . We should have stuck to our principals even in the premier league and bought young with potential, it was always inevitable we would go down but it wasn't worth risking the finances. It's still a mystery, why clubs run the risk financial ruin paying these over the top wages. The premier league is stage any young footballer would like to showcase their talents even on low wages. |
Glad I’m not a Nottingham Forest supporter | | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 12:55 - Aug 24 with 1427 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 08:37 - Aug 24 by jojaca |
The last 10 plus years we have been one of the most successful clubs in the transfer market. We just went off the rails towards the end of our premier league era resigning players like Bony and Ayew . We should have stuck to our principals even in the premier league and bought young with potential, it was always inevitable we would go down but it wasn't worth risking the finances. It's still a mystery, why clubs run the risk financial ruin paying these over the top wages. The premier league is stage any young footballer would like to showcase their talents even on low wages. |
Bony was clearly is terrible signing. It is strange that at the time there were serious reservations from fans. Ledbetter who kept a very low profile was head of recruitment under HJ and gave the club too many duds amongst some strong signings. Tabanou, Bony, Eder, Clucas. The recruitment at academy level was outstanding though with James McBurnie , Byers etc
I groaned when I saw Morgan Fox was linked, All reports on him are unfavourable. | |
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 13:33 - Aug 24 with 1402 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 07:14 - Aug 24 by Dr_Winston |
It is claimed that his last play was to reject the James deal. Given his track record it's a claim that I have a hard time believing. Jenkins was no longer in total control when we sold Sigurdsson. If he had been Siggy would have gone for £30m tops. Just like when he caved and sold Bony for about £10m less than we should have got.
As I've said many times, the current ownership have a lot to answer for, but I don't see the sense in making things up to add more fuel to the fire. Jenkins was always weak in transfer negotiations. We have generally held out for much higher fees since 2016 than we did before. |
You are a misguided fan that has a grudge against Jenkins. Jenkins ran the club impeccably for 15 years the greatest years of the clubs history.
Fans dislike the man on the basis of one administration failing in 15 years and a perceived mistreatment of the Supporters Trust. The same Supporters Trust that led their member up a long winding and expensive six year path to obscurity and surender. The myth fans have bought in to ran out of gas and was fake.
Shamefully they have
a) invested less in Swansea city than their investment in London advisors.
b) Probably put less cash into the club than a famous US actress
c) Taken over 2 times possibly 4 times more money out of the club than they ever put in.
Now you are suggesting Swansea's £28m for Bony was £10m short. Swansea are trying to recreate the successful years. Jenkins himself recreated it with Potter but was chased out by the fans and the Trust. Given time he would have got it right. It was not so easy as everyone is painfully finding out. [Post edited 24 Aug 2022 13:37]
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| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 16:41 - Aug 24 with 1290 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 13:33 - Aug 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You are a misguided fan that has a grudge against Jenkins. Jenkins ran the club impeccably for 15 years the greatest years of the clubs history.
Fans dislike the man on the basis of one administration failing in 15 years and a perceived mistreatment of the Supporters Trust. The same Supporters Trust that led their member up a long winding and expensive six year path to obscurity and surender. The myth fans have bought in to ran out of gas and was fake.
Shamefully they have
a) invested less in Swansea city than their investment in London advisors.
b) Probably put less cash into the club than a famous US actress
c) Taken over 2 times possibly 4 times more money out of the club than they ever put in.
Now you are suggesting Swansea's £28m for Bony was £10m short. Swansea are trying to recreate the successful years. Jenkins himself recreated it with Potter but was chased out by the fans and the Trust. Given time he would have got it right. It was not so easy as everyone is painfully finding out. [Post edited 24 Aug 2022 13:37]
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Your mancrush is clouding your posting and making you sound very silly at times. |  | | |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 17:50 - Aug 24 with 1222 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City ready for low baller Joel Piroe bids on 16:41 - Aug 24 by Treforys_Jack |
Your mancrush is clouding your posting and making you sound very silly at times. |
Who cares I post what I believe. I told you 6 years ago the Trust were performing poorly. Chief called me all sorts. Trust supporters now are very thin n the ground after their humiliating surrender.
The only thing they can do now is change their ways and volunteer £250,000+ into the club coffers by buying new shares in the Convertible loan note. I would respect that actually.
They appear to have no protection against inflation. It was and is a far bigger issue the dilution. [Post edited 24 Aug 2022 17:52]
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