| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. 11:04 - Apr 11 with 4951 views | RichardO |
In the Derby game there did seem to be more opportunities to turn in the middle of midfield.
Is playing the ball backwards instead of turning, a lack of communication/awareness/skill to enable the turn to be completed or is it playing safe given the number of times in pasted where we have been unable complete the turn and getting caught in possession? |  | | |  |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 11:44 - Apr 11 with 3940 views | Dr_Winston |
Think it was bad habits slipping back in due to tiredness. Both Fulton and Grimes were guilty of it on several occasions. |  |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 11:48 - Apr 11 with 3939 views | Lorax |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 11:44 - Apr 11 by Dr_Winston |
Think it was bad habits slipping back in due to tiredness. Both Fulton and Grimes were guilty of it on several occasions. |
That's true but then, Fulton also put in some really good tackles and occupied some good spaces denying Cardiff easy passes. Fulton breaks up play, personally I'd put him in every time ahead of Smith and lets face it, Fulton has a better scoring record too! | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 12:40 - Apr 11 with 3913 views | RichardO |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 11:48 - Apr 11 by Lorax |
That's true but then, Fulton also put in some really good tackles and occupied some good spaces denying Cardiff easy passes. Fulton breaks up play, personally I'd put him in every time ahead of Smith and lets face it, Fulton has a better scoring record too! |
Has Smith got a goal scoring record, I can't remember one, surely he must have? | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 14:01 - Apr 11 with 3891 views | Treforys_Jack |
Smith seems a good pro and a popular squad member, however he's a definite chink in RM's armour. His obsession with playing him in an advanced role is truly baffling. Even on Saturday, coming on as a sub, he immediately took an advanced midfield position. Bizarre tbh. |  | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 14:08 - Apr 11 with 3877 views | RichardO |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 14:01 - Apr 11 by Treforys_Jack |
Smith seems a good pro and a popular squad member, however he's a definite chink in RM's armour. His obsession with playing him in an advanced role is truly baffling. Even on Saturday, coming on as a sub, he immediately took an advanced midfield position. Bizarre tbh. |
Agree Smith at a loss when alone further up the park, thought he one of the cornerstones in Coopers midfield last season until Hourihane came in, then the dynamic of the team changed. | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 14:46 - Apr 11 with 3844 views | Treforys_Jack |
It would always put me on a downer when I'd see a starting midfield of Grimes, Downes and Smith. Seems like RM agrees lately. | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 14:53 - Apr 11 with 3842 views | RichardO |
With the return of Fulton from the cold, nice to have options in the middle should either one of the three, Downes, Fulton and Grimes becomes unavailable. | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 15:18 - Apr 11 with 3815 views | Dr_Winston |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 14:46 - Apr 11 by Treforys_Jack |
It would always put me on a downer when I'd see a starting midfield of Grimes, Downes and Smith. Seems like RM agrees lately. |
Smith should certainly never play in the advanced role if we can help it but he has been scapegoated a lot lately. Did very little wrong when he came on Saturday but he's been seriously slagged in some quarters.
Decent DM option but no more than that. | |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 15:24 - Apr 11 with 3812 views | vetchonian |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 15:18 - Apr 11 by Dr_Winston |
Smith should certainly never play in the advanced role if we can help it but he has been scapegoated a lot lately. Did very little wrong when he came on Saturday but he's been seriously slagged in some quarters.
Decent DM option but no more than that. |
I thought it was a strange sub for Piroe especially when we seemed to keep the same shape,I would have thought Joseph may have been a better choice using his and Obafemis pace against the tiring legs of teh Derby defence
Smith is a decent DM nothing more but I think we have better in Fulton | |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:42 - Apr 11 with 3788 views | Dr_Winston |
If memory serves Fulton started out playing in a more advanced position when he was coming up through the ranks. Perhaps lacking the kind of flair he'd need to be successful at first team level saw him drop back a bit, but he's never looked weak in front of goal when he's found himself there. | |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:44 - Apr 11 with 3784 views | vetchonian |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:42 - Apr 11 by Dr_Winston |
If memory serves Fulton started out playing in a more advanced position when he was coming up through the ranks. Perhaps lacking the kind of flair he'd need to be successful at first team level saw him drop back a bit, but he's never looked weak in front of goal when he's found himself there. |
Didnt he score a cracker at Rotherham last season with almost his first touch? | |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:47 - Apr 11 with 3783 views | STID2017 |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 11:44 - Apr 11 by Dr_Winston |
Think it was bad habits slipping back in due to tiredness. Both Fulton and Grimes were guilty of it on several occasions. |
I thought Grimes had an excellent game v Millwall, but did notice one time he passed back to Fulton who missed it and it went for a corner.
I think he had so much time and space, so I think that was a lack of communication, no one telling him. |  |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:52 - Apr 11 with 3777 views | max936 |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:42 - Apr 11 by Dr_Winston |
If memory serves Fulton started out playing in a more advanced position when he was coming up through the ranks. Perhaps lacking the kind of flair he'd need to be successful at first team level saw him drop back a bit, but he's never looked weak in front of goal when he's found himself there. |
Fulton can play any of the midfield positions for me DM CM and AM, I see him moreso at DM or CM though, but its not beyond him to play the AM and do so successfully, the more he plays the position etc etc. |  |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:52 - Apr 11 with 3780 views | RichardO |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:47 - Apr 11 by STID2017 |
I thought Grimes had an excellent game v Millwall, but did notice one time he passed back to Fulton who missed it and it went for a corner.
I think he had so much time and space, so I think that was a lack of communication, no one telling him. |
Asked in OP whether there was a lack of communication at times, anybody got a seat close to the pitch who can hear any of the on field talk? | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:06 - Apr 11 with 3774 views | jasper_T |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 16:42 - Apr 11 by Dr_Winston |
If memory serves Fulton started out playing in a more advanced position when he was coming up through the ranks. Perhaps lacking the kind of flair he'd need to be successful at first team level saw him drop back a bit, but he's never looked weak in front of goal when he's found himself there. |
Played his best stuff for the u23s as somewhere between an 8 and a 10 getting in the box. Got plenty of tricks and flicks just too heavy-footed to run channels or make an impact in tighter areas. But that was always the problem with him defensively as well, it wasn't until last season that he started playing on his toes and his tackling numbers shot up. Doesn't have Downes' or even Grimes' recovery pace when his man gets by him. | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:13 - Apr 11 with 3767 views | RichardO |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:06 - Apr 11 by jasper_T |
Played his best stuff for the u23s as somewhere between an 8 and a 10 getting in the box. Got plenty of tricks and flicks just too heavy-footed to run channels or make an impact in tighter areas. But that was always the problem with him defensively as well, it wasn't until last season that he started playing on his toes and his tackling numbers shot up. Doesn't have Downes' or even Grimes' recovery pace when his man gets by him. |
He always seemed to be a yard to far away from an opposition plaer so was prown to diving in to make up the space, Seemed to correct that last season until the final when he tried too hard with a sudden rush of blood. | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:21 - Apr 11 with 3762 views | STID2017 |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:13 - Apr 11 by RichardO |
He always seemed to be a yard to far away from an opposition plaer so was prown to diving in to make up the space, Seemed to correct that last season until the final when he tried too hard with a sudden rush of blood. |
I think that was frustration in the final
Can totally understand it, although it probably extinguished any faint hope we had in that game | |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:42 - Apr 11 with 3748 views | RichardO |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:21 - Apr 11 by STID2017 |
I think that was frustration in the final
Can totally understand it, although it probably extinguished any faint hope we had in that game |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 23:13 - May 4 with 3576 views | AndyCole |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:06 - Apr 11 by jasper_T |
Played his best stuff for the u23s as somewhere between an 8 and a 10 getting in the box. Got plenty of tricks and flicks just too heavy-footed to run channels or make an impact in tighter areas. But that was always the problem with him defensively as well, it wasn't until last season that he started playing on his toes and his tackling numbers shot up. Doesn't have Downes' or even Grimes' recovery pace when his man gets by him. |
The passive uninformed follower here will never have ever seen this.
The active fan will have noted the way in which Fults had a special chemistry with Ayew in 2nd phase go-fwd, Fults aiding and abetting our final third options, massively.
The OP is naive at best. The likes of Fults is conditioned to go-fwd. Grimes is naturally an attacking threat, yet has that 360 degree vision and sense of responsibility (el Capitan)to cover all bets, esp defensively, in that leadership capacity.
OP - think again, and create another thread which draws upon our clear strengths, not your shabbily perceived weaknesses. | |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 00:32 - May 5 with 3540 views | RichardO |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 23:13 - May 4 by AndyCole |
The passive uninformed follower here will never have ever seen this.
The active fan will have noted the way in which Fults had a special chemistry with Ayew in 2nd phase go-fwd, Fults aiding and abetting our final third options, massively.
The OP is naive at best. The likes of Fults is conditioned to go-fwd. Grimes is naturally an attacking threat, yet has that 360 degree vision and sense of responsibility (el Capitan)to cover all bets, esp defensively, in that leadership capacity.
OP - think again, and create another thread which draws upon our clear strengths, not your shabbily perceived weaknesses. |
The OP only asked questions in the original post and later proposed a alternative to a midfield if Grimes became unavailable.
Little late to the thread? | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 00:47 - May 5 with 3530 views | AndyCole |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 00:32 - May 5 by RichardO |
The OP only asked questions in the original post and later proposed a alternative to a midfield if Grimes became unavailable.
Little late to the thread? |
Your rather garbled language is a tad tricky to follow, to be fair. All over the shop, mun.
Don't you mean if Grimes, Fulton, Downs are unavailable ? as per what you wrote ?
You really aren't making much sense. Which is odd for someone who likes to overtly critique others far far better than yourself.
Think again and maybe start a thread, own a thread and steer it in the direction you intended. With some conviction. And less waffle.
This is a grown ups forum.
And ofc they're doing precisely what Martinball demands.....whatever that looks like | |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 01:15 - May 5 with 3526 views | RichardO |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 00:47 - May 5 by AndyCole |
Your rather garbled language is a tad tricky to follow, to be fair. All over the shop, mun.
Don't you mean if Grimes, Fulton, Downs are unavailable ? as per what you wrote ?
You really aren't making much sense. Which is odd for someone who likes to overtly critique others far far better than yourself.
Think again and maybe start a thread, own a thread and steer it in the direction you intended. With some conviction. And less waffle.
This is a grown ups forum.
And ofc they're doing precisely what Martinball demands.....whatever that looks like |
"With the return of Fulton from the cold, nice to have options in the middle should either one of the three, Downes, Fulton and Grimes becomes unavailable."
What part didn't you understand? | | | |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 01:24 - May 5 with 3519 views | AndyCole |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 01:15 - May 5 by RichardO |
"With the return of Fulton from the cold, nice to have options in the middle should either one of the three, Downes, Fulton and Grimes becomes unavailable."
What part didn't you understand? |
So, your waffle continues.
'Pasted' what does that mean ?
Make your point, with conviction instead of lazily sloshing some waffle out there. As per. Seems to be your modus operandi.
Give it your best shot. | |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 07:39 - May 5 with 3476 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 01:15 - May 5 by RichardO |
"With the return of Fulton from the cold, nice to have options in the middle should either one of the three, Downes, Fulton and Grimes becomes unavailable."
What part didn't you understand? |
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| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 08:00 - May 5 with 3464 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Middle of Midfield open spaces to turn into with the ball. on 17:06 - Apr 11 by jasper_T |
Played his best stuff for the u23s as somewhere between an 8 and a 10 getting in the box. Got plenty of tricks and flicks just too heavy-footed to run channels or make an impact in tighter areas. But that was always the problem with him defensively as well, it wasn't until last season that he started playing on his toes and his tackling numbers shot up. Doesn't have Downes' or even Grimes' recovery pace when his man gets by him. |
A very basic player.
Good in the air for a midfielder.
No other aspect if his game stands out.
A strange signing for a club that likes to knock it around. |  |
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