| vaccination appountments 21:09 - Feb 8 with 1682 views | exhmrc1 |
I have just read the article from BBC Wales news below.
People aged over 70, or in high priority groups, had been urged not to call their GPs or health board for an appointment, with letters being sent to households.
But health boards in Wales have now put out messages urging those in the top priority groups - over 70s, those classed as "extremely clinically vulnerable", and any NHS or social care workers - who have not been contacted to get in touch.
I have posted so if anybody has been missed they can take appropriate action. |  | | |  |
| vaccination appountments on 22:02 - Feb 8 with 1272 views | Boundy |
England have announced that over 70's can now contact their GPs to arrange an appointment. Not seen anything about Wales , typical dozy Drakeford | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| vaccination appountments on 22:16 - Feb 8 with 1254 views | Jack123 |
There is article there, but it's slightly confusing.. Health Boards in Wales call on the over 70's, but they only show a tweet from one health board. |  |
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| vaccination appountments on 22:51 - Feb 8 with 1228 views | exhmrc1 |
They also mention Cardiff and Vale but the only way to know which boards are involved is to ask them.
Cardiff and Vale University Health Board urged people in priority groups one-four to get in touch, with people aged 75 or over being told to call their GPs. | | | |
| vaccination appountments on 23:01 - Feb 8 with 1210 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| vaccination appountments on 22:02 - Feb 8 by Boundy |
England have announced that over 70's can now contact their GPs to arrange an appointment. Not seen anything about Wales , typical dozy Drakeford |
Clearly bungling Boris is reeling from finding himself behind dozy Drakeford in vaccine rollout and is desperate to make up ground. |  |
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| vaccination appountments on 10:44 - Feb 9 with 1133 views | felixstowe_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 23:01 - Feb 8 by Joe_bradshaw |
Clearly bungling Boris is reeling from finding himself behind dozy Drakeford in vaccine rollout and is desperate to make up ground. |
Any country than can vaccinate over 10 million in less than 6 weeks can hardly be called bungling.
Plus over 500,00 have had their second vaccination.
Well done the whole of the UK for leading the world and to Drakeford who after justified media criticism for hoarding vaccines finally got his act together. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 10:49 - Feb 9 with 1134 views | controversial_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 10:44 - Feb 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Any country than can vaccinate over 10 million in less than 6 weeks can hardly be called bungling.
Plus over 500,00 have had their second vaccination.
Well done the whole of the UK for leading the world and to Drakeford who after justified media criticism for hoarding vaccines finally got his act together. |
Was that a grudging acknowledgement that Drakeford is doing better then Boris and that a labour govt is doing a better job than the Conservative one with all the resources? | | | |
| vaccination appountments on 11:02 - Feb 9 with 1123 views | onehunglow |
I cant book my second jab on line ,for what it s worth.
For Bungling ,check out Trump and his attitude and competence during this pandemic.He's killed hundreds of thousands by ineptitude | |
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| vaccination appountments on 11:35 - Feb 9 with 1112 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| vaccination appountments on 10:44 - Feb 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Any country than can vaccinate over 10 million in less than 6 weeks can hardly be called bungling.
Plus over 500,00 have had their second vaccination.
Well done the whole of the UK for leading the world and to Drakeford who after justified media criticism for hoarding vaccines finally got his act together. |
I didn’t call a country bungling I called a certain politician bungling. A politician who has repeatedly bungled many things. With regard to vaccines the rollout across the UK has been superb and I was responding to criticism of Drakeford on vaccines which is a bit odd given the figures. Thanks to the people on the ground who have implemented the vaccine rollout. Thankfully they are professionals not politicians. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 11:57 - Feb 9 with 1099 views | onehunglow |
| vaccination appountments on 11:35 - Feb 9 by Joe_bradshaw |
I didn’t call a country bungling I called a certain politician bungling. A politician who has repeatedly bungled many things. With regard to vaccines the rollout across the UK has been superb and I was responding to criticism of Drakeford on vaccines which is a bit odd given the figures. Thanks to the people on the ground who have implemented the vaccine rollout. Thankfully they are professionals not politicians. |
In fairness,Boris has had to contend with much ,including our feckwit nation of selfish jerks who party in sheds and warehouses whenever and wherever they can.
Make no mistake,whether you a died in the wool Labour manor or me a political antichrist like it or not,the biggest killers have been our own people.
Johnson's biggest mistakes was thinking the nations had common sense then being dumb enough to relax restrictions for bluddy christmas,which has cost thouands of lives-and for what,turkey dinner,a bottle of Chablis and a Pud followed with all manner of drinks you would not drink at any other time. Then you fall over each other.
Of course ,waiting to police and enforce the regs 8 months too late didnt help either.
Hindsight should have meant a month long full on lockdown with curfew enforced by military of necessary. Extreme ? Not really given 120,000 have died.That's extreme.
Even now ,some will ot let this cure affect their lives,they wont accept they have a right to be responsible.When thing go wrong ,it's someone else's fault.And that is our problem.
Would Corbyn done any better?
Would Starmer?
Not really, because they govern the same people | |
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| vaccination appountments on 13:01 - Feb 9 with 1080 views | Boundy |
| vaccination appountments on 11:57 - Feb 9 by onehunglow |
In fairness,Boris has had to contend with much ,including our feckwit nation of selfish jerks who party in sheds and warehouses whenever and wherever they can.
Make no mistake,whether you a died in the wool Labour manor or me a political antichrist like it or not,the biggest killers have been our own people.
Johnson's biggest mistakes was thinking the nations had common sense then being dumb enough to relax restrictions for bluddy christmas,which has cost thouands of lives-and for what,turkey dinner,a bottle of Chablis and a Pud followed with all manner of drinks you would not drink at any other time. Then you fall over each other.
Of course ,waiting to police and enforce the regs 8 months too late didnt help either.
Hindsight should have meant a month long full on lockdown with curfew enforced by military of necessary. Extreme ? Not really given 120,000 have died.That's extreme.
Even now ,some will ot let this cure affect their lives,they wont accept they have a right to be responsible.When thing go wrong ,it's someone else's fault.And that is our problem.
Would Corbyn done any better?
Would Starmer?
Not really, because they govern the same people |
Totally agree , in the main the populace have knuckled down but as we've all seen examples, a lot haven't and it doesn't take a lot of non conforming idiots to make a negative impact. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| vaccination appountments on 13:02 - Feb 9 with 1080 views | exhmrc1 |
| vaccination appountments on 11:57 - Feb 9 by onehunglow |
In fairness,Boris has had to contend with much ,including our feckwit nation of selfish jerks who party in sheds and warehouses whenever and wherever they can.
Make no mistake,whether you a died in the wool Labour manor or me a political antichrist like it or not,the biggest killers have been our own people.
Johnson's biggest mistakes was thinking the nations had common sense then being dumb enough to relax restrictions for bluddy christmas,which has cost thouands of lives-and for what,turkey dinner,a bottle of Chablis and a Pud followed with all manner of drinks you would not drink at any other time. Then you fall over each other.
Of course ,waiting to police and enforce the regs 8 months too late didnt help either.
Hindsight should have meant a month long full on lockdown with curfew enforced by military of necessary. Extreme ? Not really given 120,000 have died.That's extreme.
Even now ,some will ot let this cure affect their lives,they wont accept they have a right to be responsible.When thing go wrong ,it's someone else's fault.And that is our problem.
Would Corbyn done any better?
Would Starmer?
Not really, because they govern the same people |
I dont agree with your last comments. I actually believe a different Tory PM might have acted differently and saved lives as well. He has been too slow to react throughout this and too keen to open up things when they would have been better closed.
Obviously any leader is only as good as its people but getting the decisions right in the first place would have helped. | | | |
| vaccination appountments on 13:10 - Feb 9 with 1076 views | Catullus |
| vaccination appountments on 11:35 - Feb 9 by Joe_bradshaw |
I didn’t call a country bungling I called a certain politician bungling. A politician who has repeatedly bungled many things. With regard to vaccines the rollout across the UK has been superb and I was responding to criticism of Drakeford on vaccines which is a bit odd given the figures. Thanks to the people on the ground who have implemented the vaccine rollout. Thankfully they are professionals not politicians. |
I criticised Drakeford initally but have to say now he/they are doing a much better job, a good job and they need to keep it going.
Bojo has done a good job with the rollout too but he has much to be criticised for otherwise. The list is extensive and no doubt there'll be an inquiry that'll end up much like Chilcott, it'll stop just short of what most of us would say it needs to do.
Maybe our politicians need to have a good think about who advises them because many of these advisors seem to be clueless, like the bloke who advised Bojo to go to Scotland.
The vaccinations continue but now we hear the new (SA) variant is not quite so easily defended against and we need boosters.
This pandemic has some legs yet it seems. At least the good news is that uptake has increased even if there is some small opposition in the BAME community. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 13:36 - Feb 9 with 1057 views | onehunglow |
| vaccination appountments on 13:02 - Feb 9 by exhmrc1 |
I dont agree with your last comments. I actually believe a different Tory PM might have acted differently and saved lives as well. He has been too slow to react throughout this and too keen to open up things when they would have been better closed.
Obviously any leader is only as good as its people but getting the decisions right in the first place would have helped. |
He has a job few would envy.
As I say,he has made serious errors of judgement but what would others have done | |
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| vaccination appountments on 13:42 - Feb 9 with 1058 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| vaccination appountments on 11:57 - Feb 9 by onehunglow |
In fairness,Boris has had to contend with much ,including our feckwit nation of selfish jerks who party in sheds and warehouses whenever and wherever they can.
Make no mistake,whether you a died in the wool Labour manor or me a political antichrist like it or not,the biggest killers have been our own people.
Johnson's biggest mistakes was thinking the nations had common sense then being dumb enough to relax restrictions for bluddy christmas,which has cost thouands of lives-and for what,turkey dinner,a bottle of Chablis and a Pud followed with all manner of drinks you would not drink at any other time. Then you fall over each other.
Of course ,waiting to police and enforce the regs 8 months too late didnt help either.
Hindsight should have meant a month long full on lockdown with curfew enforced by military of necessary. Extreme ? Not really given 120,000 have died.That's extreme.
Even now ,some will ot let this cure affect their lives,they wont accept they have a right to be responsible.When thing go wrong ,it's someone else's fault.And that is our problem.
Would Corbyn done any better?
Would Starmer?
Not really, because they govern the same people |
No point speculating whether someone else would have done a better job. Every country’s leader must be thinking “why me” and I am more than happy to cut them all plenty of slack dealing with this terrible situation. Mind you, not many were stupid enough to dismiss the science early on and visit a COVID ward to shake hands with patients. Stupidity that almost killed him.
What I can’t understand right now is the fact that people arrived from South Africa yesterday and exited Heathrow in 10 minutes unchallenged. When the Daily Express, the most pro Boris paper of them all calls it a disgrace you know he’s bungling things. He’s spent the last 4 plus years banging on about controlling our borders yet will not shut them to an enemy that is killing British people.
What the f**k is he thinking? | |
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| vaccination appountments on 14:14 - Feb 9 with 1028 views | onehunglow |
| vaccination appountments on 13:42 - Feb 9 by Joe_bradshaw |
No point speculating whether someone else would have done a better job. Every country’s leader must be thinking “why me” and I am more than happy to cut them all plenty of slack dealing with this terrible situation. Mind you, not many were stupid enough to dismiss the science early on and visit a COVID ward to shake hands with patients. Stupidity that almost killed him.
What I can’t understand right now is the fact that people arrived from South Africa yesterday and exited Heathrow in 10 minutes unchallenged. When the Daily Express, the most pro Boris paper of them all calls it a disgrace you know he’s bungling things. He’s spent the last 4 plus years banging on about controlling our borders yet will not shut them to an enemy that is killing British people.
What the f**k is he thinking? |
As I say, he has been weak in many regards ,Joe,but this is not ALL his fault and too many are making political points .Not just here.Watching Trump on that Telly special about the way he mishandled the pandemic stateside makes Boris look a genius.
Let's not forget life long Labour people would never ever the Conservatives any credit at all.It' s a DNA thing for many. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 14:54 - Feb 9 with 1019 views | exhmrc1 |
| vaccination appountments on 13:36 - Feb 9 by onehunglow |
He has a job few would envy.
As I say,he has made serious errors of judgement but what would others have done |
I think some others would have acted more sensibly and I include some Tories in that.
How many would have told people to go back to work when the pandemic was getting out of control. Many others would have shut borders and locked down earlier. Others wouldnt have gone away from the 2 metre rule. As an example we didnt in Wales. Others would have sacked Cummins as he should have. There are numerous things he got wrong. Far more than the devolved leaders and much of his policies have affected the devolved nations | | | |
| vaccination appountments on 16:31 - Feb 9 with 983 views | Catullus |
| vaccination appountments on 14:54 - Feb 9 by exhmrc1 |
I think some others would have acted more sensibly and I include some Tories in that.
How many would have told people to go back to work when the pandemic was getting out of control. Many others would have shut borders and locked down earlier. Others wouldnt have gone away from the 2 metre rule. As an example we didnt in Wales. Others would have sacked Cummins as he should have. There are numerous things he got wrong. Far more than the devolved leaders and much of his policies have affected the devolved nations |
That's a difficult call too because many politicians would have worried about the money first. That was Bojo's big mistake, trying to protect the economy AND stop the virus. He needed to accept doing whatever had to be done to get the virus sorted first as the vital plan and deal with anything else later.
The economy will recover but those who died needlessly will still be dead.
Then some of the other politicians are complete idiots who many of us wouldn't trust to run a bath.
I think that's proved by many of the posts on here. Nobody on here is an expert but many things seemed obvious if the country was to be spared the worst of the virus. A long term lockdown, not a 2 week or 6 week thing but several months (which happened eventually) then stopping international travel, mass testing which would need that first class T&T they banged on about but failed to deliver.
The politicians though tried to lok after their moneyed friends and look where it got us. The science wasn;t followed, Bojo listened to feckwit advisors like Cummings and as a result over 120k dead when it could have been far fewer. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 16:53 - Feb 9 with 976 views | felixstowe_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 10:49 - Feb 9 by controversial_jack |
Was that a grudging acknowledgement that Drakeford is doing better then Boris and that a labour govt is doing a better job than the Conservative one with all the resources? |
No just a thank you to every one for rolling thr vaccine out. It just proves there was no reason at all for Drakeford to hold back vaccines. He eventually got the message and Wales did not run out vaccine. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 16:55 - Feb 9 with 972 views | felixstowe_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 11:57 - Feb 9 by onehunglow |
In fairness,Boris has had to contend with much ,including our feckwit nation of selfish jerks who party in sheds and warehouses whenever and wherever they can.
Make no mistake,whether you a died in the wool Labour manor or me a political antichrist like it or not,the biggest killers have been our own people.
Johnson's biggest mistakes was thinking the nations had common sense then being dumb enough to relax restrictions for bluddy christmas,which has cost thouands of lives-and for what,turkey dinner,a bottle of Chablis and a Pud followed with all manner of drinks you would not drink at any other time. Then you fall over each other.
Of course ,waiting to police and enforce the regs 8 months too late didnt help either.
Hindsight should have meant a month long full on lockdown with curfew enforced by military of necessary. Extreme ? Not really given 120,000 have died.That's extreme.
Even now ,some will ot let this cure affect their lives,they wont accept they have a right to be responsible.When thing go wrong ,it's someone else's fault.And that is our problem.
Would Corbyn done any better?
Would Starmer?
Not really, because they govern the same people |
The only day easing of restrictions on Christmas day had little or no effect. Most people stayed at home anyway. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 16:56 - Feb 9 with 971 views | controversial_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 16:53 - Feb 9 by felixstowe_jack |
No just a thank you to every one for rolling thr vaccine out. It just proves there was no reason at all for Drakeford to hold back vaccines. He eventually got the message and Wales did not run out vaccine. |
Aren't you going to thank him also for locking down sooner, getting cases and deaths below the national average and for making the difficult decisions when they needed to be done? | | | |
| vaccination appountments on 17:04 - Feb 9 with 965 views | felixstowe_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 16:56 - Feb 9 by controversial_jack |
Aren't you going to thank him also for locking down sooner, getting cases and deaths below the national average and for making the difficult decisions when they needed to be done? |
Drakeford biggest mistake was thinking he had solved the problem with his ludicrously far too short two week firebreak. After the firebreak ended there were no restrictions are all in Wales and cases and deaths rocketed even in the parts of Wales that had previously seen very few cases. Even Starmer admitted his two week firebreak was wrong.
Another Drakeford mistake is Wales has more than halved testing since Christmas this is despite the fact that over 5% of people currently being tested come back with a positive result. England rate is 2%.
If you don't test you don't find new cases particularly the asymptomatic cases which will mean people still spreading the virus. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 17:17 - Feb 9 with 962 views | controversial_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 17:04 - Feb 9 by felixstowe_jack |
Drakeford biggest mistake was thinking he had solved the problem with his ludicrously far too short two week firebreak. After the firebreak ended there were no restrictions are all in Wales and cases and deaths rocketed even in the parts of Wales that had previously seen very few cases. Even Starmer admitted his two week firebreak was wrong.
Another Drakeford mistake is Wales has more than halved testing since Christmas this is despite the fact that over 5% of people currently being tested come back with a positive result. England rate is 2%.
If you don't test you don't find new cases particularly the asymptomatic cases which will mean people still spreading the virus. |
We don't find asymptomatic cases , and we haven't unless ppl come forward with symptoms.
Yes, he has made mistakes, who hasn't it's a new virus, but he has tried his best for Wales.Contrast that with the attitude of Bojo, ignoring warnings from the WHO, missing Cobra meetings, shaking hands with covid patients, and then the plonker ended up with the virus himself. Wasting money on a failed test and track system and giving contracts to his cronies .Drafeford has been a model of efficiency compared to the idiots in Clowning street | | | |
| vaccination appountments on 17:40 - Feb 9 with 939 views | felixstowe_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 17:17 - Feb 9 by controversial_jack |
We don't find asymptomatic cases , and we haven't unless ppl come forward with symptoms.
Yes, he has made mistakes, who hasn't it's a new virus, but he has tried his best for Wales.Contrast that with the attitude of Bojo, ignoring warnings from the WHO, missing Cobra meetings, shaking hands with covid patients, and then the plonker ended up with the virus himself. Wasting money on a failed test and track system and giving contracts to his cronies .Drafeford has been a model of efficiency compared to the idiots in Clowning street |
You do find asymptomatic cases you just have to test contacts or increase testing in areas with high infection rates. England do over 500,000 tests a day Wales does about 10,000 a day. | |
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| vaccination appountments on 18:34 - Feb 9 with 927 views | controversial_jack |
| vaccination appountments on 17:40 - Feb 9 by felixstowe_jack |
You do find asymptomatic cases you just have to test contacts or increase testing in areas with high infection rates. England do over 500,000 tests a day Wales does about 10,000 a day. |
No we don't test unless there are symptoms. heaven't done since the beginning. | | | |
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