| Relegation battle and Ki ? 19:04 - Dec 28 with 4073 views | Swanfan1 |
Can we get Ki back even if it cost us something,
that would finally be the nail in the coffin for Sunderland
we should not be helping out a team that could be our rival if we go into relegation battle. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 19:08 - Dec 28 with 2985 views | Liam12345 |
bring him back wedensday |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 19:35 - Dec 28 with 2921 views | aspas45 |
Did ki play well today? |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 19:59 - Dec 28 with 2831 views | buzzbox |
Agree with Swanfan, get him back, would be a blow to Sunderland, who are in the mix with us in the battle for Prem survival.  | | | |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 20:14 - Dec 28 with 2787 views | Swanfan1 |
Thanks well yea that be it then
should still speak to the player about coming back
we could really use him, and our players are not performing
De Guzman should either play attacking midfielder out wide or bench I dont wanna see him play that central role. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:28 - Dec 28 with 2666 views | porschejack |
Thought he was outstanding for them today , looked strong with a good engine . | | | |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:36 - Dec 28 with 2628 views | QuakerJack |
Remember Dobbie to Blackpool. He's our player and as far as I'm aware we can recall him in january as the window is open so rather than helping another team to the detriment of ourselves let's get him back. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:40 - Dec 28 with 2608 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:36 - Dec 28 by QuakerJack |
Remember Dobbie to Blackpool. He's our player and as far as I'm aware we can recall him in january as the window is open so rather than helping another team to the detriment of ourselves let's get him back. |
That would depend on;
1) If we included a 'recall' option in the loan
2) Ki appologises to Laudrup |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:42 - Dec 28 with 2591 views | QuakerJack |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:40 - Dec 28 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
That would depend on;
1) If we included a 'recall' option in the loan
2) Ki appologises to Laudrup |
If there is a recall option, number 2 should be irrelevant | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:43 - Dec 28 with 2583 views | porschejack |
the commentator said he's on a season long loan , all depends whats been signed on the temp contract . | | | |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:47 - Dec 28 with 2546 views | QuakerJack |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:43 - Dec 28 by porschejack |
the commentator said he's on a season long loan , all depends whats been signed on the temp contract . |
It was a ridiculous decision in the first place. It's different if Chelsea or City lend us a player, he can't play against them, we're no threat and the worst that can happen is he does nothing, best case scenario he scores to beat their rivals. Would City lend United a player?
If there wasn't a clause to bring him back then it's even worse, surely Huw learnt something from the dobbie fcuk up. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:52 - Dec 28 with 2513 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:47 - Dec 28 by QuakerJack |
It was a ridiculous decision in the first place. It's different if Chelsea or City lend us a player, he can't play against them, we're no threat and the worst that can happen is he does nothing, best case scenario he scores to beat their rivals. Would City lend United a player?
If there wasn't a clause to bring him back then it's even worse, surely Huw learnt something from the dobbie fcuk up. |
Despite the incredible job our board have done to get us to where we are today, there's no denying they still have been guilty of more than a couple of mistakes on the way, and continue to make them to this day. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:58 - Dec 28 with 2486 views | QuakerJack |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:52 - Dec 28 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Despite the incredible job our board have done to get us to where we are today, there's no denying they still have been guilty of more than a couple of mistakes on the way, and continue to make them to this day. |
Completely agree. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 22:07 - Dec 28 with 2464 views | jack_lord |
It was stated at the time that there was a recall option in January. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 22:08 - Dec 28 with 2459 views | FearOfAJackPlanet |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 21:52 - Dec 28 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Despite the incredible job our board have done to get us to where we are today, there's no denying they still have been guilty of more than a couple of mistakes on the way, and continue to make them to this day. |
The board were in a tricky situation with Ki/Laudrup in the summer. They're praised for letting managers manage and for giving Laudrup the freedom to develop his own squad, but they also see the bigger picture and don't want to get rid of a player just because a manager - who will not commit beyond the end of this season - doesn't rate him as much as they do. They're balancing the short-term against the idea of continuity.
In a crude summary, the board want Ki to play for us, and Laudrup doesn't. but Laudrup may be gone in a few months. That's why Ki is on loan and not sold. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 22:19 - Dec 28 with 2429 views | AtleticoAbertawe |
As for recalling Ki, I think it depends if there a was loan fee involved, if Sunderland payed us a loan fee then I don't think we will be able to recall him. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 23:19 - Dec 28 with 2360 views | aspas45 |
We definitely should not sell KI.
I think if a new manager comes in he could start more. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 00:03 - Dec 29 with 2280 views | Gowerjack |
It's all down to if Kiisgod wants him to come back.... |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 00:11 - Dec 29 with 2257 views | aspas45 |
If ki was here now anyone think we would be any higher in the league or higher points? Would it have made a difference? [Post edited 29 Dec 2013 0:12]
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 08:29 - Dec 29 with 2014 views | somersetsimon |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 19:35 - Dec 28 by aspas45 |
Did ki play well today? |
I only saw the last 10 minutes of the match, but in that 10 minutes, Ki did more than I've seen de Guzman do in any 90 minutes this season. If he could play at that level for is in that more forward position, then I'd take him back as soon as possible.
However, Laudrup doesn't seem to see it like that and out would only make sense to bring him back if we were going to play him regularly. |  | | |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 08:32 - Dec 29 with 2009 views | Dr_Winston |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 22:08 - Dec 28 by FearOfAJackPlanet |
The board were in a tricky situation with Ki/Laudrup in the summer. They're praised for letting managers manage and for giving Laudrup the freedom to develop his own squad, but they also see the bigger picture and don't want to get rid of a player just because a manager - who will not commit beyond the end of this season - doesn't rate him as much as they do. They're balancing the short-term against the idea of continuity.
In a crude summary, the board want Ki to play for us, and Laudrup doesn't. but Laudrup may be gone in a few months. That's why Ki is on loan and not sold. |
Fair, although Ki didn't exactly do much to force himself into Laudrup's plans last season. |  |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 09:46 - Dec 29 with 1932 views | perchrockjack |
Ki started off fine with us but then went stale and listless. He s clearly got it back which benefits Sunderland.
Quite why with a small squad we loan this guy for the whole season when we have so many fixtures is a pitiful decision. | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:15 - Dec 29 with 1876 views | QuakerJack |
| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 00:11 - Dec 29 by aspas45 |
If ki was here now anyone think we would be any higher in the league or higher points? Would it have made a difference? [Post edited 29 Dec 2013 0:12]
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No but he wouldn't be helping out a team with whom we may end up in a relegation scrap with | |
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| Relegation battle and Ki ? on 11:27 - Dec 29 with 1842 views | Clinton |
Poyet used Ki as a DM initially when Cattermole was on one of his periodic bans. They all loved him in the DM role. Then they played him in AM role and he has been even better, making chances and scoring. He's Poyets favourite I think. He looks happier there than he ever did here.
There is a break clause, but I believe Sunderland will put in a bid. The thing is he's doing so well other clubs may come in too. What if Everton or Chelsea liked the look of him after his performances against them. Maybe the best scenario is a bidding war similar to what happened with DG10 last season, I reckon we can get 8 or 9 million for him in his current form. |  |
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