| Twitter on 18:13 - Oct 14 with 1331 views | isitme |
| Twitter on 18:08 - Oct 14 by Banned4ever |
so your saying a couple on benefits gets more then a working couple ? |
In some cases yes, especially if the couple are both earning minimum or near minimum wage. The crazy thing is that they will receive tax credits, but still pay tax and NI. |  | |  |
| Twitter on 18:14 - Oct 14 with 1325 views | TVOS1907 |
| Twitter on 18:08 - Oct 14 by Banned4ever |
so your saying a couple on benefits gets more then a working couple ? |
Have you ever heard of a chap called Mohammed Salim? |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| Twitter on 18:15 - Oct 14 with 1318 views | isitme |
| Twitter on 18:14 - Oct 14 by TVOS1907 |
Have you ever heard of a chap called Mohammed Salim? |
Or Abu Hamza? | | | |
| Twitter on 18:41 - Oct 14 with 1290 views | Banned4ever |
| Twitter on 18:13 - Oct 14 by isitme |
In some cases yes, especially if the couple are both earning minimum or near minimum wage. The crazy thing is that they will receive tax credits, but still pay tax and NI. |
you dont pay tax on tax credit |  | | |
| Twitter on 18:43 - Oct 14 with 1283 views | isitme |
| Twitter on 18:41 - Oct 14 by Banned4ever |
you dont pay tax on tax credit |
No, some people just get tax credit and then pay tax as well. Why do they not just pay less tax in the first place? | | | |
| Twitter on 18:55 - Oct 14 with 1265 views | Banned4ever |
worked this out based on a couple not working claiming income support council tax and rent
Income Support £5,811.32 £111.45
Means-tested bill reductions
Council Tax Benefit £1,400.03 £26.85 You should not have to pay Council Tax as you qualify for full Council Tax Benefit.
Housing Benefit £3,337.14 £64.00 You should not have to pay rent as you qualify for full Housing Benefit.
For more information on what qualifies see eligible rent for Housing Benefit
Total Entitlements £10,548.49 £202.30 weekly
so your telling me a couple working full time on minimum wage takes home less then 202.30 a week | | | |
| Twitter on 19:04 - Oct 14 with 1254 views | isitme |
A couple both working full time (35 hours a week) on minimum wage could earn about £22,500 before tax etc.
That would be worth around £17,000 after tax and NI. They would then still have to pay their housing costs and council tax. Even with a rent/mortgage of say £500 a month that is £6,000 a year. Factor in council tax and it is probably about the same as getting £10,500 a year on benefits and a house paid for. Also if the property is renovated/maintained by the council that is in effect even more benefits being paid out, as these sorts of things can be expensive. | | | |
| Twitter on 19:12 - Oct 14 with 1247 views | Banned4ever |
| Twitter on 19:04 - Oct 14 by isitme |
A couple both working full time (35 hours a week) on minimum wage could earn about £22,500 before tax etc.
That would be worth around £17,000 after tax and NI. They would then still have to pay their housing costs and council tax. Even with a rent/mortgage of say £500 a month that is £6,000 a year. Factor in council tax and it is probably about the same as getting £10,500 a year on benefits and a house paid for. Also if the property is renovated/maintained by the council that is in effect even more benefits being paid out, as these sorts of things can be expensive. |
you not included there working tax credit and help with rent and council tax credit for low income .
And most council repairers are payed for now by the tenant | | | |
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| Twitter on 19:15 - Oct 14 with 1240 views | isitme |
| Twitter on 19:12 - Oct 14 by Banned4ever |
you not included there working tax credit and help with rent and council tax credit for low income .
And most council repairers are payed for now by the tenant |
I am not sure that on that income they would qualify for anything, or much at all.
Even if they were eligible for lets say a couple of thousand a year. Is it worth working full time to get maybe £40 a week more than on benefits?
That is why welfare is not usually fair. Quite simply nobody should pay any tax or national insurance on the first £15,000 they earn. That way there would be much less need for tax credits etc.
Also many people are eligible for much more than the figures you quoted. Even the new proposed cap of £25,000 is the equivalent of a family earning around £33,000 before tax and NI. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Twitter on 19:23 - Oct 14 with 1230 views | Banned4ever |
| Twitter on 19:15 - Oct 14 by isitme |
I am not sure that on that income they would qualify for anything, or much at all.
Even if they were eligible for lets say a couple of thousand a year. Is it worth working full time to get maybe £40 a week more than on benefits?
That is why welfare is not usually fair. Quite simply nobody should pay any tax or national insurance on the first £15,000 they earn. That way there would be much less need for tax credits etc.
Also many people are eligible for much more than the figures you quoted. Even the new proposed cap of £25,000 is the equivalent of a family earning around £33,000 before tax and NI. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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I agree a lot of people would not want to work for 40.00 a week especally when you include travel .
but thats a 160 a month better off | | | |
| Twitter on 19:25 - Oct 14 with 1223 views | isitme |
| Twitter on 19:23 - Oct 14 by Banned4ever |
I agree a lot of people would not want to work for 40.00 a week especally when you include travel .
but thats a 160 a month better off |
Not if your travel costs you more than £40 a week! | | | |
| Twitter on 19:31 - Oct 14 with 1212 views | Banned4ever |
| Twitter on 19:25 - Oct 14 by isitme |
Not if your travel costs you more than £40 a week! |
just worked out a single person on minimum wage 35hrs a week earns 216.65 so a couple on minimum earns 433.30 | | | |
| Twitter on 19:32 - Oct 14 with 1208 views | macro |
I see Ryan Bertrand has deleted his twitter account now after his rant |  | | |
| Twitter on 19:32 - Oct 14 with 1207 views | isitme |
| Twitter on 19:31 - Oct 14 by Banned4ever |
just worked out a single person on minimum wage 35hrs a week earns 216.65 so a couple on minimum earns 433.30 |
I gave you those figure earlier!
You now need to deduct tax, national insurance, rent/mortgage and council tax. | | | |
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