| Changes to existing dental practices 17:33 - Apr 22 with 1021 views | Boundy |
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"IMPORTANT UPDATE ABOUT THE FUTURE OF NHS DENTAL CARE IN WALES. This is a very long, but important post. Please take the time to read it and share with others. Everyone should have the opportunity to have their say.
We hope the explanation below is helpful and encourage you to have your say in the WELSH GOVERNMENT’S PUBLIC CONSULTATION. Please share. This is EVERYONE’S NHS 🦷
• Like most dental practices in Wales, we are an independently owned business.
• No part of the building or otherwise is owned by the NHS. We are not employed by the NHS. We provide NHS Dental Services on a contractual basis.
• Talbot Street Dental Surgery has been providing NHS care since the 1970s, and has continued to do so under the current owners since 2014.
• We are not obliged to provide NHS care and can return our NHS contract should we wish.
• The current NHS dental contract in Wales is far from ideal for dental practices or for patients.
• The Welsh Government are to introduce a new NHS dental contract in Wales from April 2026 - details of which are below:
The Welsh Government has announced proposed reforms to NHS Dental Services in Wales, set to begin in April 2026. As part of this process, there is a public consultation period which ends on 19th June, 2025. This provides a valuable opportunity for patients, dental professionals, and the wider community to share their views and help shape the future of NHS dental care.
While these proposed changes are intended to improve access and efficiency within the NHS dental system, there are aspects of the new contract that raise concerns among dental professionals. We believe it’s important for our patients to understand what is being discussed and how it could potentially impact your dental care.
What These Changes Could Mean for You
• No formal patient registration: Once your oral health is considered stable, you may be referred to a central Dental Access Portal until it’s time for your next check-up in 18–24 months.
• Limited availability at recall: Due to capacity constraints, routine preventative appointments might be extended beyond the current recommended timeframes.
• Rotating care model: You may be assigned to different dental practices for your next course of treatment. While this model is aimed at increasing access, it could affect continuity of care and the opportunity to build long-term trust with a single dentist. Dentists believe this could well signal the end of the hight street Family Dental Practice. YOU WILL BE ON AN NHS WAITING LIST AND COULD BE WAITING A LONG TIME (WHEN YOU GET TO THE TOP OF IT) FOR YOUR NEXT CHECK-UP. YOU COULD BE SENT TO ANY DENTAL PRACTICE AND NOT NECESSARILY THE ONE YOU HAVE BEEN ATTENDING FOR YEARS.
• Data sharing limitations: At this stage, there are no provisions for sharing notes or x-rays between practices, which may impact continuity and personalized care. IF SENT TO ANOTHER PRACTICE, YOU WILL BE STARTING FROM SCATCH EVERY TIME. THE PRACTICE WILL NOT HAVE ANY OF YOUR DENTAL HISTORY.
• No additional funding announced: Without increased investment from Welsh Government, expanding access to new patients could lead to reduced availability for those currently receiving care. LOYAL, EXISTING PATIENTS WILL LOSE OUT.
• Fee changes: NHS treatment fees for paying patients may increase under the new model. IT MAY COST MORE FOR PATIENTS WHO PAY FOR THEIR NHS CARE.
What These Changes Could Mean For Dental Practices
• The proposed contract introduces new expectations, including achieving 40% activity in the first six months, which may be challenging for some practices.
• The funding structure has not been updated to reflect rising service costs, which could influence whether practices remain within the NHS or transition to private care. YOUR PRACTICE WILL FIND IT CHALLENGING TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE NHS CARE AND MAY DECIDE TO STOP PROVIDING NHS SERVICES.
• Limitations around data sharing and patient continuity may affect how practices deliver long-term care.
Your Voice Matters
This consultation is a critical opportunity for everyone—patients, dental teams, and community members—to contribute feedback and help shape a new NHS Dental Service that works for all.
We strongly encourage you to get involved and make your voice heard by participating in the consultation process.
Have your say by responding to the consultation.
You can access the consultation document using this link. There is a questionnaire at the end of the document that you can fill in online, or you can fill in the survey in the document and send by email to HSS-PrimaryCareMailbox@gov.wales or download and post to Primary and Community Care Division – Dental Policy Branch, Welsh Government, Cathays Park, Cardiff, CF10 3NQ " |  |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 20:06 - Apr 22 with 946 views | max936 |
Its an absolute shambles at the moment, Mrs uses a private dentist and I'm seriously considering doing the same. |  |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 21:18 - Apr 22 with 896 views | Gwyn737 |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 20:06 - Apr 22 by max936 |
Its an absolute shambles at the moment, Mrs uses a private dentist and I'm seriously considering doing the same. |
I had to move to private property n 2012.
Couldn’t find a dentist anywhere down here. | | | |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 21:41 - Apr 22 with 882 views | Boundy |
I'm "fortunate " to still have a dentist who works for the NHS but the service is a hit & miss affair , where I and my wife have had appointments cancelled on the morning of our appointments or having to wait weeks or months to see someone. | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 22:55 - Apr 22 with 849 views | max936 |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 21:41 - Apr 22 by Boundy |
I'm "fortunate " to still have a dentist who works for the NHS but the service is a hit & miss affair , where I and my wife have had appointments cancelled on the morning of our appointments or having to wait weeks or months to see someone. |
Similar to my Dentist, had an appointment there a little while cause a filling came out of a dead tooth leaving sharp edges which needed to be smoothed out and when I eventually got into the chair, she started filing the sharp bits off and then asked if that was ok, it clearly so i said can you try again and she did whilst saying she didn't have time for this, unbelievable.
Not been back since. | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 00:10 - Apr 23 with 816 views | Kilkennyjack |
I would have had a read , but you actually think this English establishment millionaire cares about Wales.
Spoiler Alert; Beloved Nigel only cares about being rich himself.
Amazing news i know. |  |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 08:24 - Apr 23 with 749 views | Boundy |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 00:10 - Apr 23 by Kilkennyjack |
I would have had a read , but you actually think this English establishment millionaire cares about Wales.
Spoiler Alert; Beloved Nigel only cares about being rich himself.
Amazing news i know. |
Fascinating news , meanwhile in the real world of Wales where NHS waiting times are still rising, where job creation is falling and our kids remain uneducated. IF Reform had any influence on any one of those topics I'd be calling them out but unless I've been in a coma I don't believe Reform has been. | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 08:33 - Apr 23 with 739 views | onehunglow |
Anyone who can sort out NHS is to be lauded even if they are rich | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 18:04 - Apr 23 with 665 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 00:10 - Apr 23 by Kilkennyjack |
I would have had a read , but you actually think this English establishment millionaire cares about Wales.
Spoiler Alert; Beloved Nigel only cares about being rich himself.
Amazing news i know. |
That's quite childish don't you think? You're presented with information and instead of commenting on that you post nonsense.
As it goes I have an NHS dentist but tbh, they are pretty awful. The last time I needed them they made a botch job, the tooth still gives me problems but I don't want to go back, we are seriously considering moving to a local private practise because they have a decent rep.
This proposed change will possibly kill off NHS dentistry in Wales. Doees anyone think that'll be an improvement? | | | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 18:49 - Apr 23 with 646 views | raynor94 |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 20:06 - Apr 22 by max936 |
Its an absolute shambles at the moment, Mrs uses a private dentist and I'm seriously considering doing the same. |
I'm private, had a lose tooth went to dentist who then charged £95 to remove it, 2 minutes work! |  |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 19:21 - Apr 23 with 636 views | Boundy |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 18:04 - Apr 23 by SullutaCreturned |
That's quite childish don't you think? You're presented with information and instead of commenting on that you post nonsense.
As it goes I have an NHS dentist but tbh, they are pretty awful. The last time I needed them they made a botch job, the tooth still gives me problems but I don't want to go back, we are seriously considering moving to a local private practise because they have a decent rep.
This proposed change will possibly kill off NHS dentistry in Wales. Doees anyone think that'll be an improvement? |
par for the course I'm afraid , he has the debating skills of a two year whose just had his packet of Haribos taken away from him . I'm very close to hitting the ignore button just because he bores me ridged. | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 23:21 - Apr 23 with 589 views | max936 |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 18:49 - Apr 23 by raynor94 |
I'm private, had a lose tooth went to dentist who then charged £95 to remove it, 2 minutes work! |
I need root canal work, but the tooth in question has a bridge attached to it at the end of the bridge and the tooth itself is fractured, so the it has to come out and that will compromise the bridge, I can't tolerate a plate, so I'll be needing implants, which are daylight robbery, firstly you got to pay for a consultation 150/200 quid, then the xrays and scans then its 2k per tooth at least after probably parting with 300 to 500 quid. | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 07:50 - Apr 24 with 533 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 08:33 - Apr 23 by onehunglow |
Anyone who can sort out NHS is to be lauded even if they are rich |
Farage has no track record in sorting anything out.
In 2016 he promised people to vote for Brexit to take back control of the borders.
Since then the number of illegal immigrants has greatly increased.
Farage is just a wind bag.
He wont do shite for Wales. | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 07:57 - Apr 24 with 530 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 19:21 - Apr 23 by Boundy |
par for the course I'm afraid , he has the debating skills of a two year whose just had his packet of Haribos taken away from him . I'm very close to hitting the ignore button just because he bores me ridged. |
I call out your overly simplistic solutions to complex problems.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS.
That needs saying in any debate as Reform are on the rise.
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding.
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
Amazing how its all linked and about choices, right ? | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 09:07 - Apr 24 with 491 views | Togg |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 07:57 - Apr 24 by Kilkennyjack |
I call out your overly simplistic solutions to complex problems.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS.
That needs saying in any debate as Reform are on the rise.
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding.
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
Amazing how its all linked and about choices, right ? |
I don't think Brexit or Farage have contributed to my Dentist going private. | | | |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 09:11 - Apr 24 with 491 views | Boundy |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 07:57 - Apr 24 by Kilkennyjack |
I call out your overly simplistic solutions to complex problems.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS.
That needs saying in any debate as Reform are on the rise.
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding.
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
Amazing how its all linked and about choices, right ? |
My first and last attempt at explaining
Farage wants to privatise the NHS. . Pleas provide the whole transcript where he stated this , I belive you won't find it , what you will find are a few suggestions on how to improve a failing NHS in its current form , don't you want a modern progressive health care system ,one which improves everyone's
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding. That has been proven wrong so many times before way to sort out the NHS is a complete revamp and review with positive action taken , not just more money
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties. You throw disdain at English nationalism but cream your pants at the thought of Welsh nationalism Where's the swastika flags , far right FFS , a typical throwaway comment with no substance.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed. We've had shit delivered by Cardiff centric for too long , progressive you say what a joke , who would that be to lead us to the green and pleasant land you believe is our right to have.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
I thought the Tories were in power when the Brexit vote was given and delivered | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 10:38 - Apr 24 with 461 views | onehunglow |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 09:11 - Apr 24 by Boundy |
My first and last attempt at explaining
Farage wants to privatise the NHS. . Pleas provide the whole transcript where he stated this , I belive you won't find it , what you will find are a few suggestions on how to improve a failing NHS in its current form , don't you want a modern progressive health care system ,one which improves everyone's
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding. That has been proven wrong so many times before way to sort out the NHS is a complete revamp and review with positive action taken , not just more money
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties. You throw disdain at English nationalism but cream your pants at the thought of Welsh nationalism Where's the swastika flags , far right FFS , a typical throwaway comment with no substance.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed. We've had shit delivered by Cardiff centric for too long , progressive you say what a joke , who would that be to lead us to the green and pleasant land you believe is our right to have.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
I thought the Tories were in power when the Brexit vote was given and delivered |
Ey oop
We have NHS dentist and they're fine
Never had an issue here although many have turned to private care
I read of NHS in Wales and weep
I've been hammered by some for pointing out these issues in Ealrs which makes it one of the worst places in UK for health care
That has to be down to Cardiff centric policies
Independence would see this escalate IMHO
The divisions in Wales ensure disparity continues | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 11:42 - Apr 24 with 435 views | Togg |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 10:38 - Apr 24 by onehunglow |
Ey oop
We have NHS dentist and they're fine
Never had an issue here although many have turned to private care
I read of NHS in Wales and weep
I've been hammered by some for pointing out these issues in Ealrs which makes it one of the worst places in UK for health care
That has to be down to Cardiff centric policies
Independence would see this escalate IMHO
The divisions in Wales ensure disparity continues |
I spoke to a dentist partner who I know about18 months ago. She told me at the time that a lot of dentists felt aggrieved as the NHS funding was higher in England than Wales. Now I don't know whether this has changed?
I've been with my practice over 40 years. It changed hands about 5 years ago and now is largely private. I've been told that they will be taking on a small number of NHS shortly and that I would be top of the queue. I've not heard anything. However it may look like I might have to go private. Let's be honest though less and less dentistry is being covered by the NHS and it's been going that way for a long timem | | | |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 13:43 - Apr 24 with 409 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 07:57 - Apr 24 by Kilkennyjack |
I call out your overly simplistic solutions to complex problems.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS.
That needs saying in any debate as Reform are on the rise.
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding.
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
Amazing how its all linked and about choices, right ? |
In the EU most countries including France, Germany and the Netherlands have a hybrid private/ public funded health service. [Post edited 24 Apr 13:44]
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 18:11 - Apr 24 with 340 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 13:43 - Apr 24 by JACKMANANDBOY |
In the EU most countries including France, Germany and the Netherlands have a hybrid private/ public funded health service. [Post edited 24 Apr 13:44]
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 18:42 - Apr 24 with 331 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 09:11 - Apr 24 by Boundy |
My first and last attempt at explaining
Farage wants to privatise the NHS. . Pleas provide the whole transcript where he stated this , I belive you won't find it , what you will find are a few suggestions on how to improve a failing NHS in its current form , don't you want a modern progressive health care system ,one which improves everyone's
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding. That has been proven wrong so many times before way to sort out the NHS is a complete revamp and review with positive action taken , not just more money
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties. You throw disdain at English nationalism but cream your pants at the thought of Welsh nationalism Where's the swastika flags , far right FFS , a typical throwaway comment with no substance.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed. We've had shit delivered by Cardiff centric for too long , progressive you say what a joke , who would that be to lead us to the green and pleasant land you believe is our right to have.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
I thought the Tories were in power when the Brexit vote was given and delivered |
He is clear.
Their model is underfund, make it fail, then privatise to get money to mates/shareholders.
Thats money better spent on patient care, taken out of health and given to rich friends.
Dont be fooled.
Water - failed
Steel - failed
Coal - failed
Trains - failed
And a privatised NHS will fail as well. | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 19:24 - Apr 24 with 313 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 07:57 - Apr 24 by Kilkennyjack |
I call out your overly simplistic solutions to complex problems.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS.
That needs saying in any debate as Reform are on the rise.
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding.
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
Amazing how its all linked and about choices, right ? |
You say "overly simplistic" and then you say....progressive Welsh government...talk about simple.
As I've said, it'll be Plaid for me this time as the best choice but they don't fill me with confidence and they could be as bad as Welsh Labour just in different ways, time may tell.
What we want, what we deserve and what we get can all be vastly different but in the ruination of the country there is a common denominator, politicians of all colours.
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 19:32 - Apr 24 with 303 views | trampie |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 19:24 - Apr 24 by SullutaCreturned |
You say "overly simplistic" and then you say....progressive Welsh government...talk about simple.
As I've said, it'll be Plaid for me this time as the best choice but they don't fill me with confidence and they could be as bad as Welsh Labour just in different ways, time may tell.
What we want, what we deserve and what we get can all be vastly different but in the ruination of the country there is a common denominator, politicians of all colours.
I think Starmer may be upset at being called far right tho |
To me Starmer is on the right wing, he is no socialist, the Labour parties founding fathers and a few of my own ancestors would be turning in their graves at what has become of the modern Labour party, policy wise they are not much different to the Conservative party. |  |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 00:15 - Apr 25 with 248 views | raynor94 |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 07:57 - Apr 24 by Kilkennyjack |
I call out your overly simplistic solutions to complex problems.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS.
That needs saying in any debate as Reform are on the rise.
The way to sort the NHS is improved funding.
You wont get that from the English nationalist far right parties.
So we need a progressive welsh govt to deliver the funding needed.
I guess we would have had extra monies if we had not listened to Farage on Brexit.
Amazing how its all linked and about choices, right ? |
Look at the mess the Welsh government have made of the NHS in Wales, surely you are not going to defend their record? | |
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| Changes to existing dental practices on 13:31 - Apr 26 with 114 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Changes to existing dental practices on 19:32 - Apr 24 by trampie |
To me Starmer is on the right wing, he is no socialist, the Labour parties founding fathers and a few of my own ancestors would be turning in their graves at what has become of the modern Labour party, policy wise they are not much different to the Conservative party. |
I won't disagree very much but even so, calling any Tory in this country far right and calling Starmer far right is very wrong, Trump is further right than anybody in our country, more even than Farage who has never held office. | | | |
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