| Another low crowd 20:52 - Mar 8 with 1517 views | builthjack |
Under 14,000 on a nice sunny day.
What would you do to get bums on seats ?
For next Saturday I would offer in the region of 3000-4000 seats at £10 adults , £5 senior, student and u18. £3 u12.
Put a window of Monday - Thursday.
Make money in the club shop, and catering outlets.
What would others do? |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Another low crowd on 20:58 - Mar 8 with 1278 views | Whiterockin |
Five home games left this season. Anyone who buys a season ticket for next season gets a free ticket for the remaining games. |  | | |
| Another low crowd on 21:13 - Mar 8 with 1230 views | SullutaCreturned |
it's easier to lose fans than it is to get them back. If not for my son I would probably have stopped completely and wouldn't go back, I was quite comfortable with my armchair view.
The best way to get them back is to keep entertaining and win more games. The biggest turn off was slow, boring, repeptitve football and losing too often. |  | | |
| Another low crowd on 21:40 - Mar 8 with 1159 views | felixstowe_jack |
No idea why we insist on playing the same afternoon as Wales. | |
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| Another low crowd on 06:30 - Mar 9 with 918 views | jack247 |
We seem to have a new breed of fan that prefer to stream games unless everything is perfect. I’m sure this is affecting every club, not just us.
Yes, there are things the club could do, but I think it’s mainly down to how accessible games are now.
Levein has gone
Williams has gone
Grimes has gone
The excuses have gone.
If people don’t start turning up now, I think we have to accept our core fan base is shrinking. At least in terms of attending games. | | | |
| Another low crowd on 06:36 - Mar 9 with 915 views | jackal |
the way we played under Williams was enough to drive people away.
If we keep it up under Sheehan with attacking pacey football, getting players forward and numbers in the box, hopefully fans will return.
It's simple really, Win games and people will come. |  | | |
| Another low crowd on 07:00 - Mar 9 with 903 views | jack247 |
| Another low crowd on 06:36 - Mar 9 by jackal |
the way we played under Williams was enough to drive people away.
If we keep it up under Sheehan with attacking pacey football, getting players forward and numbers in the box, hopefully fans will return.
It's simple really, Win games and people will come. |
Those people should be the cherry on the cake, not a significant chunk of our fan base | | | |
| Another low crowd on 07:15 - Mar 9 with 886 views | Fireboy2 |
| Another low crowd on 06:30 - Mar 9 by jack247 |
We seem to have a new breed of fan that prefer to stream games unless everything is perfect. I’m sure this is affecting every club, not just us.
Yes, there are things the club could do, but I think it’s mainly down to how accessible games are now.
Levein has gone
Williams has gone
Grimes has gone
The excuses have gone.
If people don’t start turning up now, I think we have to accept our core fan base is shrinking. At least in terms of attending games. |
As has been said previously, it's far easier to lose fans than gain them.
People get used to not going to games, they find something else to do
We should be dangling a juicy carrot to get these lost fans and prospective fans (parents and more importantly their kids) to games. |  | | |
| Another low crowd on 07:29 - Mar 9 with 869 views | jack247 |
| Another low crowd on 07:15 - Mar 9 by Fireboy2 |
As has been said previously, it's far easier to lose fans than gain them.
People get used to not going to games, they find something else to do
We should be dangling a juicy carrot to get these lost fans and prospective fans (parents and more importantly their kids) to games. |
Would you ever consider not going because you didn’t like the playing style/owners/manager/captain etc?
I agree, once previously match going fans become armchair fans, you’ll be lucky to see them a couple of times a season. | | | |
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| Another low crowd on 08:16 - Mar 9 with 826 views | Fireboy2 |
| Another low crowd on 07:29 - Mar 9 by jack247 |
Would you ever consider not going because you didn’t like the playing style/owners/manager/captain etc?
I agree, once previously match going fans become armchair fans, you’ll be lucky to see them a couple of times a season. |
Re your first paragraph, i think most fans wouldn't blame the things you mentioned but after a gutsfull some people just give up and start doing something else.
I for one stopped going simply because I had a gutsfull of williams, I am hoping to get to few games before the end of the season. | | | |
| Another low crowd on 08:29 - Mar 9 with 802 views | Landore_Jack |
People have had enough. They have been driven away by the poor football offered by RM and LW. Plus the American owners have driven this club from the PL to surviving in the Championship. They have lost trust in owners. |  |
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| Another low crowd on 08:30 - Mar 9 with 794 views | jack247 |
| Another low crowd on 08:16 - Mar 9 by Fireboy2 |
Re your first paragraph, i think most fans wouldn't blame the things you mentioned but after a gutsfull some people just give up and start doing something else.
I for one stopped going simply because I had a gutsfull of williams, I am hoping to get to few games before the end of the season. |
Plenty have, openly on here. Maybe the captain was stretching it, but certainly the rest.
I don’t think people from here are doing anything else, they are just watching at home. They still post about the games.
You may be right about people who don’t use this site just finding other things to do. I’m talking about the more invested fans who are interested enough to come on here and discuss the Swans. | | | |
| Another low crowd on 08:39 - Mar 9 with 776 views | pencoedjack |
| Another low crowd on 08:30 - Mar 9 by jack247 |
Plenty have, openly on here. Maybe the captain was stretching it, but certainly the rest.
I don’t think people from here are doing anything else, they are just watching at home. They still post about the games.
You may be right about people who don’t use this site just finding other things to do. I’m talking about the more invested fans who are interested enough to come on here and discuss the Swans. |
40 plus years a ST holder, 70 odd away grounds following the Swans & I gave it all up mainly due to Martins boring football.
I found it difficult to watch a full game under Williams.
Although not thinking of renewing ST I will go to more games now it’s entertaining ( I have seen some poor stuff over those 40 plus years).
It seems I’m not alone. |  | | |
| Another low crowd on 08:47 - Mar 9 with 758 views | jack247 |
| Another low crowd on 08:39 - Mar 9 by pencoedjack |
40 plus years a ST holder, 70 odd away grounds following the Swans & I gave it all up mainly due to Martins boring football.
I found it difficult to watch a full game under Williams.
Although not thinking of renewing ST I will go to more games now it’s entertaining ( I have seen some poor stuff over those 40 plus years).
It seems I’m not alone. |
Yeah this is exactly it. If committed fans are giving up, what chance have we got attracting the next generation?
For the vast majority of those 40 years, you either went to the ground or you didn’t see the game. That’s not the case anymore. We played a lot of dire football at the Vetch. | | | |
| Another low crowd on 08:56 - Mar 9 with 747 views | onehunglow |
It's been pointed out before the damage Williams was doing
People don't forget that
It affects the psyche being taken
Kids being taken along had nothing of any worth to viiew
Older long term fans will have been sickened as to WHY we kept Williams in his post for so long
He was taking us down and into oblivion
We need to remember that | |
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| Another low crowd on 09:16 - Mar 9 with 683 views | 1462jack |
| Another low crowd on 08:56 - Mar 9 by onehunglow |
It's been pointed out before the damage Williams was doing
People don't forget that
It affects the psyche being taken
Kids being taken along had nothing of any worth to viiew
Older long term fans will have been sickened as to WHY we kept Williams in his post for so long
He was taking us down and into oblivion
We need to remember that |
I played football yesterday and was reffed by a very well known Northbank legend my old man’s best mate I won’t put names up , anyway this man has been going since the 60s a season ticket holder down the liberty from day one , I asked him if he was going down after our game and to my surprise he said I have hardly watched them all season and had turned down an offer that morning a free hospitality ticket 😮, that’s where we are at sadly |  | | |
| Another low crowd on 11:48 - Mar 9 with 542 views | EagleEye |
There’s no quick fix to getting back a couple of thousand lost fans. Cheap tickets & better marketing may put a few on the crowd but will only have a short term effect.
Winning & attractive football is the most effective antidote. Passing the ball around the back four deep in our own half then boasting about dominating the ball fools no-one any more.
Appoint a manager with personality & contacts in the game. Someone with an up to date vision of how the modern game is being played
Make a statement signing or 2 - show some intent & ambition to strengthen the squad not gambling with unknowns
Do these basic steps & start next season strongly & there’s a decent chance that crowds will improve |  | | |
| Another low crowd on 12:41 - Mar 9 with 483 views | Whiterockin |
Swans gates down massively, Ospreys gates down massively. How much is it the product and how much is it the people in Swansea no longer wish to attend sporting events live. Both sets of matches available through streaming, are we just armchair supporters. | | | |
| Another low crowd on 12:59 - Mar 9 with 461 views | raynor94 |
| Another low crowd on 12:41 - Mar 9 by Whiterockin |
Swans gates down massively, Ospreys gates down massively. How much is it the product and how much is it the people in Swansea no longer wish to attend sporting events live. Both sets of matches available through streaming, are we just armchair supporters. |
I think sky sports + is doing untold damage to the EFL yes the clubs are getting more money, but it's turning fans into armchair fans.
A cold wet Tuesday night and you can watch the game from the comfort of your armchair |  |
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| Another low crowd on 13:04 - Mar 9 with 430 views | Whiterockin |
| Another low crowd on 12:59 - Mar 9 by raynor94 |
I think sky sports + is doing untold damage to the EFL yes the clubs are getting more money, but it's turning fans into armchair fans.
A cold wet Tuesday night and you can watch the game from the comfort of your armchair |
I'm not knocking anyone for their choice, but how many on here actually attend every home game. Then we need to ask those who don't what it would take to get them through the turnstiles, if anything. | | | |
| Another low crowd on 13:07 - Mar 9 with 416 views | max936 |
| Another low crowd on 12:41 - Mar 9 by Whiterockin |
Swans gates down massively, Ospreys gates down massively. How much is it the product and how much is it the people in Swansea no longer wish to attend sporting events live. Both sets of matches available through streaming, are we just armchair supporters. |
50+ years of supporting Swans had various season tickets over the years my Mrs and aye travelled away regularly in the Toshack days, rarely after 1983 though Wembley days apart, I think Yeovil was our last away game my eldest came with us we won 2-1, oh we did go to Brighton when we were in the Prem we got gubbed 5-0.
Not been to a home game since Wilmot scored a headed goal to beat Cardiff, I watch us from my armchair of course, not got the enthusiasm to actually go down Liberty these days though.
My eldest doesn't show any interest in going either, when he went away to work was the beginning of the end, I kept season tickets going for two seasons, then felt it pointless to renew , when one of the tickets wasn't getting used enough except when my Mrs could go. |  |
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| Another low crowd on 13:54 - Mar 9 with 353 views | builthjack |
| Another low crowd on 12:41 - Mar 9 by Whiterockin |
Swans gates down massively, Ospreys gates down massively. How much is it the product and how much is it the people in Swansea no longer wish to attend sporting events live. Both sets of matches available through streaming, are we just armchair supporters. |
Yet other clubs seem to keep their fans.
Bradford, 16000 regulars in league 2, Portsmouth full house every game even in the lower leagues, Norwich, Ipswich, many others.
Maybe the Premier League years spoilt a good few thousand.
Agree about the owners, but they are only passing through. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Another low crowd on 14:21 - Mar 9 with 315 views | onehunglow |
| Another low crowd on 13:54 - Mar 9 by builthjack |
Yet other clubs seem to keep their fans.
Bradford, 16000 regulars in league 2, Portsmouth full house every game even in the lower leagues, Norwich, Ipswich, many others.
Maybe the Premier League years spoilt a good few thousand.
Agree about the owners, but they are only passing through. |
It's a concern Ken , it sure is
It's apathy really
I have criticised our fan base including myself
It might be genetic
We are not as passionate as we think
Pompey, Bradford are crazy loyal in a way we can only dream of
We should be seeing increased crowds after the appalling turgid shite has ended
It's going to take some inspired marketing | |
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| Another low crowd on 14:40 - Mar 9 with 283 views | Luther27 |
| Another low crowd on 08:39 - Mar 9 by pencoedjack |
40 plus years a ST holder, 70 odd away grounds following the Swans & I gave it all up mainly due to Martins boring football.
I found it difficult to watch a full game under Williams.
Although not thinking of renewing ST I will go to more games now it’s entertaining ( I have seen some poor stuff over those 40 plus years).
It seems I’m not alone. |
No you’re definitely not on your own. Gave up my season ticket due to the owners . If they could have sold the tea lady….sorry…person…I’ve no doubt they would. They were arrogant in dealing with players and contracts and it appeared to me I was being treated as a cash cow for their incompetence.
At the moment the new owners appear to be of the same ilk so in that respect I’ll not be rushing back. I have Sky and watch the team whenever they’re on plus I go to a few home games. And that’s the way it’s going to stay for me. | | | |
| Another low crowd on 15:00 - Mar 9 with 239 views | Whiterockin |
| Another low crowd on 14:40 - Mar 9 by Luther27 |
No you’re definitely not on your own. Gave up my season ticket due to the owners . If they could have sold the tea lady….sorry…person…I’ve no doubt they would. They were arrogant in dealing with players and contracts and it appeared to me I was being treated as a cash cow for their incompetence.
At the moment the new owners appear to be of the same ilk so in that respect I’ll not be rushing back. I have Sky and watch the team whenever they’re on plus I go to a few home games. And that’s the way it’s going to stay for me. |
I fully understand where you are coming from and many justifiably feel the same way. Once supporters get out of the habit of attending games it's very hard to get them back, people find other things to do. Looking at the number of season ticket holders not turning up our sales for next season will be extremely low. Supporters going to 10 games a season will not change that. The damage the owners have done over the last 8 or so seasons (manager choice is part of it) is not reversible under their current business model. Good football and a winning team will not be enough, just ask anyone not going if it would be enough to buy a season ticket. Keith has highlighted clubs before that have had loss leading seasons to tempt supporters back, we will need to go down that route too get momentum going again. Selective marketing will boost the odd gate, but long term attendances will need a much more inventive approach. | | | |
| Another low crowd on 15:50 - Mar 9 with 152 views | builthjack |
| Another low crowd on 15:00 - Mar 9 by Whiterockin |
I fully understand where you are coming from and many justifiably feel the same way. Once supporters get out of the habit of attending games it's very hard to get them back, people find other things to do. Looking at the number of season ticket holders not turning up our sales for next season will be extremely low. Supporters going to 10 games a season will not change that. The damage the owners have done over the last 8 or so seasons (manager choice is part of it) is not reversible under their current business model. Good football and a winning team will not be enough, just ask anyone not going if it would be enough to buy a season ticket. Keith has highlighted clubs before that have had loss leading seasons to tempt supporters back, we will need to go down that route too get momentum going again. Selective marketing will boost the odd gate, but long term attendances will need a much more inventive approach. |
Marketing.
That’s a word our owners do not understand.
Huge problem.
The amount of publicity that they give to Reviva, I would hope it’s worth a few million.
But doubt it very much. Perhaps they get very good mates rates. [Post edited 9 Mar 15:52]
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