| One of too few 23:55 - Mar 7 with 1781 views | Boundy |
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| One of too few on 08:30 - Mar 8 with 1378 views | Kilkennyjack |
But its nothing compared to the money that Brexit costs us every single year.
There is an elephant in the room called ‘Brexit’, reverse Brexit and grow the economy.
Then jail Johnson, Farage and Mogg.
These are your Reform rabble.
Could not run the corner shop. |  |
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| One of too few on 08:41 - Mar 8 with 1377 views | Boundy |
| One of too few on 08:30 - Mar 8 by Kilkennyjack |
But its nothing compared to the money that Brexit costs us every single year.
There is an elephant in the room called ‘Brexit’, reverse Brexit and grow the economy.
Then jail Johnson, Farage and Mogg.
These are your Reform rabble.
Could not run the corner shop. |
Go and bore someone else ,this is about a Labour councillor with integrity, nowadays one of too few I suspect . | |
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| One of too few on 09:58 - Mar 8 with 1332 views | SullutaCreturned |
| One of too few on 08:41 - Mar 8 by Boundy |
Go and bore someone else ,this is about a Labour councillor with integrity, nowadays one of too few I suspect . |
Yes he is boring, we all know that even if we applied to rejoin the EU it would be on new terms and would cost us more money than before with no veto allowed.
This Labour councillor os brilliant, he clearly cares. A lot of the cuts and raises in taxes are because of waste, because of stupid decisions and because we have too mamy politicians and too many high earners in public office.
22 LGO's in Wales, 22 CEO's when we only need what, 5 at most, how many workers at 35K would those other 17 CEO's wages pay for, then there's all the other high paid jobs at LGO's we don't need which would both save money AND create more front line jobs.
What costs this country more money than brexit is political stupidity and the stupidity of voters who keep making the same choices and expect things to change.
Well done Jakob Williamson, you'd get my vote. I do wonder though, the budget he was voting against, it cut 250 jobs but did the cabinet get a pay rise too? | | | |
| One of too few on 10:28 - Mar 8 with 1311 views | raynor94 |
| One of too few on 08:30 - Mar 8 by Kilkennyjack |
But its nothing compared to the money that Brexit costs us every single year.
There is an elephant in the room called ‘Brexit’, reverse Brexit and grow the economy.
Then jail Johnson, Farage and Mogg.
These are your Reform rabble.
Could not run the corner shop. |
You really are getting pathetic now, do you bore the pants off your friends and family with this same old guff |  |
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| One of too few on 11:36 - Mar 8 with 1278 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| One of too few on 09:58 - Mar 8 by SullutaCreturned |
Yes he is boring, we all know that even if we applied to rejoin the EU it would be on new terms and would cost us more money than before with no veto allowed.
This Labour councillor os brilliant, he clearly cares. A lot of the cuts and raises in taxes are because of waste, because of stupid decisions and because we have too mamy politicians and too many high earners in public office.
22 LGO's in Wales, 22 CEO's when we only need what, 5 at most, how many workers at 35K would those other 17 CEO's wages pay for, then there's all the other high paid jobs at LGO's we don't need which would both save money AND create more front line jobs.
What costs this country more money than brexit is political stupidity and the stupidity of voters who keep making the same choices and expect things to change.
Well done Jakob Williamson, you'd get my vote. I do wonder though, the budget he was voting against, it cut 250 jobs but did the cabinet get a pay rise too? |
I enjoyed his condemnation of his colleagues when they claim to have saved services after reversing their own decisions to cut them!
On the Westminster hour this week Rosie Duffield is talking about how good the Universal Benefit System is!!! [Post edited 8 Mar 14:03]
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| One of too few on 11:37 - Mar 8 with 1276 views | max936 |
Tremendous stuff, he's right in saying that this Labour government is a continuation of the Tory Government and getting worse.
Starmer and Reeves should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. |  |
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| One of too few on 12:08 - Mar 8 with 1252 views | raynor94 |
| One of too few on 11:37 - Mar 8 by max936 |
Tremendous stuff, he's right in saying that this Labour government is a continuation of the Tory Government and getting worse.
Starmer and Reeves should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. |
Wait and see what Liz Kendall has in store! | |
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| One of too few on 13:02 - Mar 8 with 1194 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| One of too few on 10:28 - Mar 8 by raynor94 |
You really are getting pathetic now, do you bore the pants off your friends and family with this same old guff |
People who voted Brexit are struggling to transfer the blame which is understandable. The WAG is one target now Labour and environment.
It does not wash I m afraid. Threads are not meant to be entertaining. Brexit was boring and very damaging. The most damaging economic event since WW2.
Euro ope do not need UK that much but now are looking at our military capabilities with interest and more likely to want to be friends again. Trident of course the Germans could cough up a juicy " insurance premium' for cover. UK is good at insurance scam [Post edited 8 Mar 13:43]
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| One of too few on 13:28 - Mar 8 with 1168 views | Boundy |
| One of too few on 09:58 - Mar 8 by SullutaCreturned |
Yes he is boring, we all know that even if we applied to rejoin the EU it would be on new terms and would cost us more money than before with no veto allowed.
This Labour councillor os brilliant, he clearly cares. A lot of the cuts and raises in taxes are because of waste, because of stupid decisions and because we have too mamy politicians and too many high earners in public office.
22 LGO's in Wales, 22 CEO's when we only need what, 5 at most, how many workers at 35K would those other 17 CEO's wages pay for, then there's all the other high paid jobs at LGO's we don't need which would both save money AND create more front line jobs.
What costs this country more money than brexit is political stupidity and the stupidity of voters who keep making the same choices and expect things to change.
Well done Jakob Williamson, you'd get my vote. I do wonder though, the budget he was voting against, it cut 250 jobs but did the cabinet get a pay rise too? |
I thought he spoke well and in another life he would have been the normal labour councillor/ MP and the reason why I used to vote Labour . He's not the only labour councillor voting against local authority budgets as I be seen a few others via the media but I'm afraid lone voices .
The thought of another tranche of unelected AMs being foisted upon us makes my pee boil, whenever you watch any debate the chamber is usually empty but always full when it comes to discussing their pay awards. | |
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| One of too few on 13:46 - Mar 8 with 1125 views | Whiterockin |
| One of too few on 08:30 - Mar 8 by Kilkennyjack |
But its nothing compared to the money that Brexit costs us every single year.
There is an elephant in the room called ‘Brexit’, reverse Brexit and grow the economy.
Then jail Johnson, Farage and Mogg.
These are your Reform rabble.
Could not run the corner shop. |
Brexit was democratically voted for as was devolution in Wales, until there is another vote we are stuck with the decisions. Successive Conservative and Labour governments have shown no interest in another Brexit vote. The Welsh Conservatives were canvasing opinion last year on a fresh devolution vote, both they and Reform are likely to include it in their manifestos, we will just have to see how that goes. |  | | |
| One of too few on 14:17 - Mar 8 with 1041 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One of too few on 09:58 - Mar 8 by SullutaCreturned |
Yes he is boring, we all know that even if we applied to rejoin the EU it would be on new terms and would cost us more money than before with no veto allowed.
This Labour councillor os brilliant, he clearly cares. A lot of the cuts and raises in taxes are because of waste, because of stupid decisions and because we have too mamy politicians and too many high earners in public office.
22 LGO's in Wales, 22 CEO's when we only need what, 5 at most, how many workers at 35K would those other 17 CEO's wages pay for, then there's all the other high paid jobs at LGO's we don't need which would both save money AND create more front line jobs.
What costs this country more money than brexit is political stupidity and the stupidity of voters who keep making the same choices and expect things to change.
Well done Jakob Williamson, you'd get my vote. I do wonder though, the budget he was voting against, it cut 250 jobs but did the cabinet get a pay rise too? |
You clearly have no concept of the yearly figures relating to Brexit.
You can call good people voting for their party ‘stupid’ all you like, but whatever they do will be tuppence compared to Brexits £100 billion per year.
Every year.
Any deal that starts to address the largest peace time act of economic damage to the uk should be cheered by all of us who want better public services. | |
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| One of too few on 14:19 - Mar 8 with 1039 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One of too few on 10:28 - Mar 8 by raynor94 |
You really are getting pathetic now, do you bore the pants off your friends and family with this same old guff |
Sit down in the family stand.
You’d be best off concentrating on yourself to be honest. | |
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| One of too few on 17:32 - Mar 8 with 930 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
I stick to my arguments and philosophies and perople who dislike my argues our me on ignore. One loser unable to debate even encourages other to put me on iignore. This is weak .
"Do not bother mate he will never agree with us". It is any to democratic. Wales have had one w voice (Labour old school); for too long.
Others that do not like debate b use the word " boring" for unpopular debating arguments. I was thrown ofga lesser forum from or being boring in repeating the Trust were badly y run and need new thinking . I broke no rules. The old sages consensus did not accept other opinions..
This site does and is much the better for it..I do not put anyone in ignore and would never encourage anyone else to either. | |
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| One of too few on 17:58 - Mar 8 with 934 views | SullutaCreturned |
| One of too few on 14:17 - Mar 8 by Kilkennyjack |
You clearly have no concept of the yearly figures relating to Brexit.
You can call good people voting for their party ‘stupid’ all you like, but whatever they do will be tuppence compared to Brexits £100 billion per year.
Every year.
Any deal that starts to address the largest peace time act of economic damage to the uk should be cheered by all of us who want better public services. |
The figures don';t matter, it'd be as relevant as me comparing my household income to yours.
Good people can still be stupid, I'm sure you're a good person really. Good people voyted tory and what do you always call tories? Maybe you should consider the hypocrisy in that?
The largest economic damage to this country actually happened when we joined the EU and our heavy industry, our fishing industry were decimated, more than decimated really. Our steel industry is a small fraction of what it used to be, manufacturing has been moved abroad en masse. We lost far more industry after joining the EU than we have since we left
If you want better public services you may as well go and pray for them because the politicians are far too busy milking the cash cow that is the public purse. All we get every year now are spending cuts and tax rises. That won't change unless we change how we vote, who we vote for. Keep voting for the same parties and we'll get the same outcomes. | | | |
| One of too few on 19:58 - Mar 8 with 866 views | Scotia |
Irrespective of Brexit. This councillor needs a little grasp of reality. | | | |
| One of too few on 20:52 - Mar 8 with 820 views | Boundy |
| One of too few on 19:58 - Mar 8 by Scotia |
Irrespective of Brexit. This councillor needs a little grasp of reality. |
Which is ? | |
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| One of too few on 21:02 - Mar 8 with 804 views | SullutaCreturned |
| One of too few on 19:58 - Mar 8 by Scotia |
Irrespective of Brexit. This councillor needs a little grasp of reality. |
Which reality? Which one has he failed to grasp, in your opinion?
Is it unrealistic to vote against a budget that will cost more jobs? Is it unrealistic to say the Labour government has cut the WFA, is talking of cutting welfare, has raised taxes with more rises likely...is all that wrong? | | | |
| One of too few on 21:37 - Mar 8 with 768 views | Kilkennyjack |
| One of too few on 17:58 - Mar 8 by SullutaCreturned |
The figures don';t matter, it'd be as relevant as me comparing my household income to yours.
Good people can still be stupid, I'm sure you're a good person really. Good people voyted tory and what do you always call tories? Maybe you should consider the hypocrisy in that?
The largest economic damage to this country actually happened when we joined the EU and our heavy industry, our fishing industry were decimated, more than decimated really. Our steel industry is a small fraction of what it used to be, manufacturing has been moved abroad en masse. We lost far more industry after joining the EU than we have since we left
If you want better public services you may as well go and pray for them because the politicians are far too busy milking the cash cow that is the public purse. All we get every year now are spending cuts and tax rises. That won't change unless we change how we vote, who we vote for. Keep voting for the same parties and we'll get the same outcomes. |
You used figures ….. you said …..’What costs this country more money than brexit is political stupidity and the stupidity of voters who keep making the same choices and expect things to change’.
I am telling you that is so far off the mark its almost got to be a joke.
I repeat ….. none or far fewer ‘niggle’ taxes and cuts etc would need to be considered at all if we joined the EU or got as close as possible via alignment.
More money for security, education, health, heating allowances, social services, emergency services. Whatever party is in charge they would have more to spend on things that matter to people. | |
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| One of too few on 22:02 - Mar 8 with 756 views | Scotia |
| One of too few on 21:02 - Mar 8 by SullutaCreturned |
Which reality? Which one has he failed to grasp, in your opinion?
Is it unrealistic to vote against a budget that will cost more jobs? Is it unrealistic to say the Labour government has cut the WFA, is talking of cutting welfare, has raised taxes with more rises likely...is all that wrong? |
He's a local councillor. He's banging on about stuff that he can't change and is way out of his remit. He's making a national political stand in a forum that's about local issues, totally wasting his time as an elected local official.
I'm not a fan of national politics infiltrating local councils at all, I think all councillors should be independent.
The major issue though is that the country is skint and services are already on their knees. It has to be paid for. | | | |
| One of too few on 17:59 - Mar 9 with 557 views | Boundy |
| One of too few on 22:02 - Mar 8 by Scotia |
He's a local councillor. He's banging on about stuff that he can't change and is way out of his remit. He's making a national political stand in a forum that's about local issues, totally wasting his time as an elected local official.
I'm not a fan of national politics infiltrating local councils at all, I think all councillors should be independent.
The major issue though is that the country is skint and services are already on their knees. It has to be paid for. |
Did you actually watch the clip , if you did you may have missed the parts where he was speaking about local issues which are affecting or will affect his constituents , nice to think some still have the moral courage to stand up for those whose voices have been silenced for too long. | |
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| One of too few on 20:21 - Mar 9 with 521 views | SullutaCreturned |
| One of too few on 21:37 - Mar 8 by Kilkennyjack |
You used figures ….. you said …..’What costs this country more money than brexit is political stupidity and the stupidity of voters who keep making the same choices and expect things to change’.
I am telling you that is so far off the mark its almost got to be a joke.
I repeat ….. none or far fewer ‘niggle’ taxes and cuts etc would need to be considered at all if we joined the EU or got as close as possible via alignment.
More money for security, education, health, heating allowances, social services, emergency services. Whatever party is in charge they would have more to spend on things that matter to people. |
NO, I didn't use figures, I made s atatement, fugures are numbers, I used no numbers.
Are you saying that voting the tories in for 14 years didn't cost this country billions? You must be aware that in the grand schem of things 140 billion (now that's a figure!) is around 10% of the Uk budget. That is if 140 billion is anywhere near accurate of course.
If politicians didn't blow our money on vanityu projects, HS2 as you have always banged on about is estimated to cost over 80 billion and for what? When we talk about waste it puts the brexit costs into second place.
If our politicians across the board wre better, did better there would be a lot more than an extra 140 billion to spend.
Things need to change. | | | |
| One of too few on 20:46 - Mar 9 with 500 views | Scotia |
| One of too few on 17:59 - Mar 9 by Boundy |
Did you actually watch the clip , if you did you may have missed the parts where he was speaking about local issues which are affecting or will affect his constituents , nice to think some still have the moral courage to stand up for those whose voices have been silenced for too long. |
Yes.
It sort of summed up my problem with socialism, doesn't want to cut services and doesn't want to increase tax. So who pays for it? | | | |
| One of too few on 21:39 - Mar 9 with 455 views | max936 |
| One of too few on 20:46 - Mar 9 by Scotia |
Yes.
It sort of summed up my problem with socialism, doesn't want to cut services and doesn't want to increase tax. So who pays for it? |
The government by stopping wasting billions and leaving the hard working Taxpayer to cover their wastage. | |
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| One of too few on 21:46 - Mar 9 with 449 views | majorraglan |
For some reason I can’t open the Facebook clip, but I have read a number of reports that have been written regarding his comments.
I’ve got mixed feelings on it to be honest, one the one hand he’s complaining about the council tax rise going up by the maximum of 4.99% but he’s also complaining about having to make £29m of savings which he considers to be austerity. If he wants to keep the £29m in the budget, how is he going to fund it? Unless it comes from central taxation then the only other option is increasing council tax by more than 4.99% which he’s against! We are getting less for more, my council tax in Carmarthenshire has gone up 8.9% - Ffs that’s mental.
Councillor Williamson is also complaining about “attacks on welfare”, the government’s refusal to lift the two-child benefit cap, betrayed WASPI women, raised the bus (fare), taken the winter fuel allowance off vulnerable pensioners and complains the government are going after those on welfare.
We’ve covered a lot of this many times in numerous threads, while I agree with him on some things, on things like the cap the 2 children cap on benefits, and reforming welfare I completely disagree with him. Why should some have a meal ticket for life without ever contributing? I don’t mean the vulnerable and those who are unable to work, but we certainly need a firmer approach with the idle and work shy. [Post edited 9 Mar 23:06]
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| One of too few on 21:57 - Mar 9 with 437 views | Scotia |
| One of too few on 21:39 - Mar 9 by max936 |
The government by stopping wasting billions and leaving the hard working Taxpayer to cover their wastage. |
I honestly don't think they are wasting billions. Although the definition of waste is very much down to the individual and their priorities. | | | |
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