| Trump and Vance 18:21 - Feb 28 with 8269 views | raynor94 |
Unbelievable scenes in the White House, both accusing Zelensky of being disrespectful and starting World War 3.
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| Trump and Vance on 13:34 - Mar 6 with 833 views | union_jack |
| Trump and Vance on 12:34 - Mar 6 by SullutaCreturned |
That referendum was held by the Russian installed authorities with armed guards at the polling booths and people not allowed to vote in secret.
From the news,
Refat Chubarov, leader of the Tatars' unofficial parliament, said the referendum was illegal, and held in a hasty manner under the control of Russian troops.
"The fate of our motherland cannot be decided in such a referendum under the shadows of the guns of soldiers," he told the BBC.
The Tatars were deported to Central Asia by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin. They were only able to return with the fall of the Soviet Union and many want to remain in Ukraine.
But the referendum did not have an option for those who wanted the constitutional arrangements to remain unchanged.
Voters were asked whether they wanted to join Russia, or have greater autonomy within Ukraine.
So, the voters didn't even have an option to remain unchanged within Ukraine, it wasn't a free and fair vote and anybody who says it was is just a Russian mouthpiece. |
Interesting, thanks. |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 13:43 - Mar 6 with 811 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
In my opinion discussing referendums I'd futile in a time if conflict. Russia has transplanted thousand of Russians into Crimea over the last ade since they occupied it by force.
It is population engineering. Mariupol was Ukrainian and had been demolished and new flats built for Siberian s only. Mariupol was not a place where " pro- Russian dominated. It did not matter they were on the road to Crimea the land bridge. Russians do not care about their own soldiers let along displaces civilians. Referendums ars a scam in Russia |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 13:59 - Mar 6 with 791 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 12:34 - Mar 6 by SullutaCreturned |
That referendum was held by the Russian installed authorities with armed guards at the polling booths and people not allowed to vote in secret.
From the news,
Refat Chubarov, leader of the Tatars' unofficial parliament, said the referendum was illegal, and held in a hasty manner under the control of Russian troops.
"The fate of our motherland cannot be decided in such a referendum under the shadows of the guns of soldiers," he told the BBC.
The Tatars were deported to Central Asia by Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin. They were only able to return with the fall of the Soviet Union and many want to remain in Ukraine.
But the referendum did not have an option for those who wanted the constitutional arrangements to remain unchanged.
Voters were asked whether they wanted to join Russia, or have greater autonomy within Ukraine.
So, the voters didn't even have an option to remain unchanged within Ukraine, it wasn't a free and fair vote and anybody who says it was is just a Russian mouthpiece. |
24 hours and all you can come up with is that courtesy of the BBC. Doesn't even merit a response and it proves what I have said all along, you are reliant on MSM for your information. If people don't start waking the F up Starmer is going to drag you into an unwanted war with Russia. Is that what you want? |  | | |
| Trump and Vance on 16:55 - Mar 6 with 726 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Trump and Vance on 13:59 - Mar 6 by mangohilljack |
24 hours and all you can come up with is that courtesy of the BBC. Doesn't even merit a response and it proves what I have said all along, you are reliant on MSM for your information. If people don't start waking the F up Starmer is going to drag you into an unwanted war with Russia. Is that what you want? |
I know I'm wasting my time because a Texan DJ knows better than an actual resident AND democratically elected political representative of the Crimea. Clearly Refat Chubarov is not a good source according to you. stick with your Texan DJ then.
If there is an unwanted war it is because of Putin and the USA. That's not to say Starmer is brilliant but he didn't cause this so blaming him for a potential war is silly.
What next, Churchill was responsible for WW2?
If it doesn't merit a response, why did you respond? | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 18:04 - Mar 6 with 700 views | Gwyn737 |
| Trump and Vance on 16:55 - Mar 6 by SullutaCreturned |
I know I'm wasting my time because a Texan DJ knows better than an actual resident AND democratically elected political representative of the Crimea. Clearly Refat Chubarov is not a good source according to you. stick with your Texan DJ then.
If there is an unwanted war it is because of Putin and the USA. That's not to say Starmer is brilliant but he didn't cause this so blaming him for a potential war is silly.
What next, Churchill was responsible for WW2?
If it doesn't merit a response, why did you respond? |
Come now, Cat.
You should be getting your truth from a Texan wedding DJ from facebook.
He can give you the real geopolitical headlines then play Come on Eileen for an encore. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 22:16 - Mar 6 with 601 views | Scotia |
| Trump and Vance on 13:59 - Mar 6 by mangohilljack |
24 hours and all you can come up with is that courtesy of the BBC. Doesn't even merit a response and it proves what I have said all along, you are reliant on MSM for your information. If people don't start waking the F up Starmer is going to drag you into an unwanted war with Russia. Is that what you want? |
How is Starmer going to drag us in to the third world war?
What's he going to do that's going to provoke Russia more than NATO giving Ukraine billions of pounds worth of weapons to fire at Russians? | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 23:16 - Mar 6 with 552 views | scruffyjack |
| Trump and Vance on 11:42 - Mar 4 by mangohilljack |
I sincerely hope you’re not suggesting that I’m some kind of Putin fanboy—because nothing could be further from the truth. If you insist on labelling me, at least be accurate about it.
The fact that you genuinely believe Putin is the sole aggressor only proves one thing: you know absolutely nothing about the history of Russia and Ukraine. Instead of doing your own research, you blindly parrot whatever mainstream media feeds you—never once questioning their constant stream of lies and omissions.
Since you talk about democratic processes, let’s take a trip down memory lane:
2004: The CIA-backed Orange Revolution overturned an election result that favoured a pro-Russian candidate.
2014: Ukraine’s democratically elected president, Viktor Yanukovych, rejected an EU trade deal that would have devastated Ukraine’s economy. This was unacceptable to Washington, so they orchestrated a Western-backed coup—the so-called "Maidan Revolution"—to remove him. If you need to look it up, I suggest you do.
So, for the record: I am no fan of Putin—in any way, shape, or form. But I am a fan of the truth and exposing the lies and propaganda pushed by corrupt governments and media—lies that far too many programmed people around the world continue to swallow without question.
If people don’t take off their blinkers and recognise this deception for what it is, we’re only heading in one direction—and I’m sure I don’t need to spell out what that means. |
You’ve gone down a ruSSian propaganda infested memory lane fair play. Everything there is from putin’s list of reasons to justify invasion. Strange that you don’t mention the invasions of Transnistria, Chechnya (twice) and Georgia. Don’t tell me, the ruSSian speaking population were being persecuted in each case.
How anyone can support the evil topless horse riding dwarf at the head of the kremlin crime cartel is beyond me. No mainstream media were involved in the preparation of this comment. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 21:24 - Mar 7 with 436 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Trump and Vance on 18:04 - Mar 6 by Gwyn737 |
Come now, Cat.
You should be getting your truth from a Texan wedding DJ from facebook.
He can give you the real geopolitical headlines then play Come on Eileen for an encore. |
I know, shame on me for not believing some perfect stranger on social media who probably gets his truth from "Truth Social" and as we all SHOULD know, Trump and Putin are the good guys here and Ukraine are the criminals....
I think I'll stick with my original version though, mate. | | | |
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| Trump and Vance on 04:45 - Mar 8 with 361 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 16:55 - Mar 6 by SullutaCreturned |
I know I'm wasting my time because a Texan DJ knows better than an actual resident AND democratically elected political representative of the Crimea. Clearly Refat Chubarov is not a good source according to you. stick with your Texan DJ then.
If there is an unwanted war it is because of Putin and the USA. That's not to say Starmer is brilliant but he didn't cause this so blaming him for a potential war is silly.
What next, Churchill was responsible for WW2?
If it doesn't merit a response, why did you respond? |
You are wasting your time, everything you post is a copy & paste from MSM.
How can a country that was expecting a peace deal to be signed—live on television—be accused of prolonging the conflict, especially when Russia has repeatedly stated its willingness to engage in negotiations? Russia has maintained this stance even before Boris Johnson allegedly derailed previous peace efforts, and it remains open to discussions today.
In contrast, Zelensky has actively disrupted potential peace agreements, instead seeking additional financial and military support to sustain the war effort. Meanwhile, Starmer has openly suggested deploying troops and aircraft, fully aware that the moment a NATO soldier is wounded or killed, Article 5 could be invoked—potentially drawing the United States into full-scale involvement.
Ultimately, the choice is clear: either pursue diplomatic solutions to end the bloodshed or escalate the war, ensuring that the violence continues. The so-called deep state and Western leaders aligned with the World Economic Forum appear firmly committed to the latter. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 05:06 - Mar 8 with 354 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 23:16 - Mar 6 by scruffyjack |
You’ve gone down a ruSSian propaganda infested memory lane fair play. Everything there is from putin’s list of reasons to justify invasion. Strange that you don’t mention the invasions of Transnistria, Chechnya (twice) and Georgia. Don’t tell me, the ruSSian speaking population were being persecuted in each case.
How anyone can support the evil topless horse riding dwarf at the head of the kremlin crime cartel is beyond me. No mainstream media were involved in the preparation of this comment. |
Nothing I’ve stated is Russian propaganda—these are all verifiable facts.
Do I support Putin? No, and I never will. But that doesn’t mean I’ll abandon critical thinking and blindly accept everything spoon-fed to me by the Deep State, the World Economic Forum, and Western government propaganda.
Time and again, Western governments have lied to us—
about Iraq,
about Afghanistan,
about Syria,
about Libya,
and, of course, about COVID.
But now, we’re supposed to believe they’re finally telling the truth about Ukraine? (Ukraine is another rabbit hole in itself)
They don’t even bother to hide the lies anymore—yet so many, including you, swallow them without question, like a fairytale-fed princess. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 07:46 - Mar 8 with 328 views | scruffyjack |
| Trump and Vance on 05:06 - Mar 8 by mangohilljack |
Nothing I’ve stated is Russian propaganda—these are all verifiable facts.
Do I support Putin? No, and I never will. But that doesn’t mean I’ll abandon critical thinking and blindly accept everything spoon-fed to me by the Deep State, the World Economic Forum, and Western government propaganda.
Time and again, Western governments have lied to us—
about Iraq,
about Afghanistan,
about Syria,
about Libya,
and, of course, about COVID.
But now, we’re supposed to believe they’re finally telling the truth about Ukraine? (Ukraine is another rabbit hole in itself)
They don’t even bother to hide the lies anymore—yet so many, including you, swallow them without question, like a fairytale-fed princess. |
So all my sources of information are fairytales and yours are not. I get a lot of my fairytales from a Ukrainian friend, who still has family there, so I’d regard those stories as being pretty reliable. Please reveal where you get your verifiable facts from. This should be interesting. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 09:02 - Mar 8 with 301 views | mangohilljack |
| Trump and Vance on 07:46 - Mar 8 by scruffyjack |
So all my sources of information are fairytales and yours are not. I get a lot of my fairytales from a Ukrainian friend, who still has family there, so I’d regard those stories as being pretty reliable. Please reveal where you get your verifiable facts from. This should be interesting. |
I never dismissed your sources as fairytales, did I? What I said was that my information is verifiable—which it is. If you’re genuinely interested in the truth, feel free to do a deep dive and check for yourself.
Having a Ukrainian friend with family still there does not automatically make your perspective more valid than mine. Personal experiences, while valuable, do not equate to an objective understanding of the full picture.
I have friends all over the world, but that doesn’t mean I blindly accept everything they say as gospel. Instead, I prefer to examine both sides of the argument, assess the facts and sources available, and form my own conclusions. As the saying goes, there are two sides to every story—and that’s precisely why critical thinking is so important.
However, if you genuinely believe that the so-called “good guys” are the WEF stooges and their western puppet leaders, then it’s clear you’re not getting your information from the right places. And that’s not an opinion—it’s a fact. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 10:08 - Mar 8 with 271 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Trump and Vance on 07:46 - Mar 8 by scruffyjack |
So all my sources of information are fairytales and yours are not. I get a lot of my fairytales from a Ukrainian friend, who still has family there, so I’d regard those stories as being pretty reliable. Please reveal where you get your verifiable facts from. This should be interesting. |
One of Mango's fairytales is about the Orange revolution, that pro Russian candidtae stood on the basis of applying for EU membership but when he got into power he changed tack and sided with Russia. I'm not denying USA involvement but the truth is important so when he says Trump wants peace maybe he should remember what vance spouted?
Remember Mango,
politico.eu/article/jd-vance-trashes-keir-starmer-emmanuel-macron-ukraine-peacekeeping-plan/
The USA wants an economic upside so they sided with Putin to try and force Ukraine into accepting massive loss of territory and a very beneficial minerals rights deal, it wasn't about saving lives, it was about profit. Profit for Putin and profit for the USA.
So stick your Russian propaganda and your Trump loving somewhere where people will believe it. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 11:28 - Mar 8 with 224 views | max936 |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crknjxj3n4zo
Trump has stopped supporting Ukraine and that piece of scum Putin is taking full advantage, noway does he want peace no chance.
Pair of despots together, axis of evil right there along with Netanyahu.  |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 17:43 - Mar 8 with 127 views | theloneranger |
"Note too the humiliation of subordinates. In his address to Congress, the president introduced secretary of state Marco Rubio as the man charged with taking back the Panama canal. “Good luck, Marco,” said Trump, with a chuckle. “Now we know who to blame if anything goes wrong.” Cue anxious laughter from the rest of the underlings, briefly relieved that it wasn’t them."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/07/donald-trump-america-mafia |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 20:56 - Mar 8 with 74 views | scruffyjack |
| Trump and Vance on 09:02 - Mar 8 by mangohilljack |
I never dismissed your sources as fairytales, did I? What I said was that my information is verifiable—which it is. If you’re genuinely interested in the truth, feel free to do a deep dive and check for yourself.
Having a Ukrainian friend with family still there does not automatically make your perspective more valid than mine. Personal experiences, while valuable, do not equate to an objective understanding of the full picture.
I have friends all over the world, but that doesn’t mean I blindly accept everything they say as gospel. Instead, I prefer to examine both sides of the argument, assess the facts and sources available, and form my own conclusions. As the saying goes, there are two sides to every story—and that’s precisely why critical thinking is so important.
However, if you genuinely believe that the so-called “good guys” are the WEF stooges and their western puppet leaders, then it’s clear you’re not getting your information from the right places. And that’s not an opinion—it’s a fact. |
Give me your source of verifiable facts for:
The Donbas
MH17
Skripal poisoning
Just start with one if you like. In anticipation. | | | |
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