| Trump and Vance 18:21 - Feb 28 with 1752 views | raynor94 |
Unbelievable scenes in the White House, both accusing Zelensky of being disrespectful and starting World War 3.
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| Trump and Vance on 23:42 - Feb 28 with 475 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Trump and Vance on 23:07 - Feb 28 by controversial_jack |
There's nothing democratic about the Ukraine. They had a violent coup in 2014 that overthrew a govt and it's been a mess ever since.
Trump was correct, although he was disrespectful. Ukraine are losing and Zelensky has very little options. |
No one is winning. Ukraine is losing potato fields and Russian is losing Oil refinery capabilities military equipment and 1000s of men every day. Export loses are massive.
Ukraine will fight and $300 billion of Russian money is in a vault in Belgium ready to be spent. It shows what an idiot Putin is . That he did not move it.
No one is allowed to criticise Putin. You, Sachs, McGregor, Ritter, Galloway and now Vance and Trump. |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 03:48 - Mar 1 with 364 views | mangohilljack |
If you watch the whole video it's clear Zelensky was a bit unhinged before the arguments happen. His rant about Putin is insane on the world stage, he basically confirms his stance is continue the fighting with no intention of talking peace or negotiate, but rather try and manipulate more money from Trump.
So Zelensky has been encouraged by some WEF leaders (In Europe who are not ready to relinquish the kick backs just yet, he also met with major US war mongers prior) to take on Trump in front of the media and it has backfired big time.
This is 100% the EU trying to take down Trump and this is really exposing the globalist agenda and it's danger.
The European leaders messages of support straight after goes to show this was in fact a set up. |  | | |
| Trump and Vance on 09:17 - Mar 1 with 296 views | builthjack |
Nobody likes a bully. That’s what Trump is. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Trump and Vance on 09:25 - Mar 1 with 288 views | raynor94 |
| Trump and Vance on 09:17 - Mar 1 by builthjack |
Nobody likes a bully. That’s what Trump is. |
I think Vance was the bully, knew exactly what he was doing firing Trump up, as excruciating as that meeting was there has to be an end to this war.
Interesting to hear what Starmer has to say today | |
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| Trump and Vance on 09:46 - Mar 1 with 268 views | controversial_jack |
| Trump and Vance on 23:42 - Feb 28 by ReslovenSwan1 |
No one is winning. Ukraine is losing potato fields and Russian is losing Oil refinery capabilities military equipment and 1000s of men every day. Export loses are massive.
Ukraine will fight and $300 billion of Russian money is in a vault in Belgium ready to be spent. It shows what an idiot Putin is . That he did not move it.
No one is allowed to criticise Putin. You, Sachs, McGregor, Ritter, Galloway and now Vance and Trump. |
Of course the Ukraine is losing, even Trump said so. Ukraine has lost about 1 million men and Russia up to 100k.It's on a scale NATO can't even imagine.,
Ukraine is under pressure on all fronts.The Russian economy is doing fine. Factory order books are full and one of their main banks just reported huge profits. As trump said to Zelensky you have no options and no cards. | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 09:53 - Mar 1 with 250 views | onehunglow |
So , a fascist rooted dictator on one hand and a KGB multi killer on other
In the middle a convicted sexual predator and muti insulted
Yet, Zelenskyy the bad guy
It's time for Jehovah God to return to earth and wipe out this rotten world
Folks, it's time
It's been good to know ya | |
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| Trump and Vance on 10:01 - Mar 1 with 224 views | controversial_jack |
| Trump and Vance on 09:53 - Mar 1 by onehunglow |
So , a fascist rooted dictator on one hand and a KGB multi killer on other
In the middle a convicted sexual predator and muti insulted
Yet, Zelenskyy the bad guy
It's time for Jehovah God to return to earth and wipe out this rotten world
Folks, it's time
It's been good to know ya |
Zelensky has been the victim in a way. Promised the world by NATO, then thrown under the bus. Pressurized by Johnson to walk away from peace talks. However he has invoked many dictatorial powers. Blocking elections, banning opposition parties, consolidating the media under govt control, banning churches., press ganging men into military service.
He's irrelevant from now on, his time is up one way or the other | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 10:05 - Mar 1 with 216 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Trump and Vance on 09:46 - Mar 1 by controversial_jack |
Of course the Ukraine is losing, even Trump said so. Ukraine has lost about 1 million men and Russia up to 100k.It's on a scale NATO can't even imagine.,
Ukraine is under pressure on all fronts.The Russian economy is doing fine. Factory order books are full and one of their main banks just reported huge profits. As trump said to Zelensky you have no options and no cards. |
Trumps grasp of figures is not great. He quotes $350 billion but it is bogus. USA is winning and are doing better the war goes on. They have ravaged the Russian army using their sub contractors Ukraine who have demolished the Russian navy. Russia have gained land but struggling badly.
US have handed over old kit and renewed their own using money Trump is looking to get paid for.
Europe has $ 300 billion of Putin's money and need to give it to Ukraine to buy Europes and Americas hardware.
The donkeys have been mobilised. The Russians cannot manage on their own and need help.
The record of imperial powers invading dogged and proud independent countries is very poor . Vietnam Laos Afghanistan Lebanon, Haiti.
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| Trump and Vance on 10:20 - Mar 1 with 201 views | bennytheblue |
| Trump and Vance on 23:07 - Feb 28 by controversial_jack |
There's nothing democratic about the Ukraine. They had a violent coup in 2014 that overthrew a govt and it's been a mess ever since.
Trump was correct, although he was disrespectful. Ukraine are losing and Zelensky has very little options. |
And who instigated that coup? Trump goes on and on about previous regimes like it doesn’t make the USA accountable….he thinks it was great that was all on TV and it sure was, great to see him and that absolute bell Vance trying to bully Zelenskyy into giving away all ukraines minerals. Yeah we all saw what your really about Trump, the Putin love in is alive and well like we all knew before you got elected again. |  | | |
| Trump and Vance on 10:24 - Mar 1 with 187 views | controversial_jack |
| Trump and Vance on 10:20 - Mar 1 by bennytheblue |
And who instigated that coup? Trump goes on and on about previous regimes like it doesn’t make the USA accountable….he thinks it was great that was all on TV and it sure was, great to see him and that absolute bell Vance trying to bully Zelenskyy into giving away all ukraines minerals. Yeah we all saw what your really about Trump, the Putin love in is alive and well like we all knew before you got elected again. |
This plan has been in place since the 90s. It's basically a continuation of the 19th century great game with Britain v Russia. Substitute the US for Britain and there we have it.
For Russia, it's about security against NATO expansionism, but for the US it's about stealing resources | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 12:59 - Mar 1 with 128 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Trump and Vance on 03:48 - Mar 1 by mangohilljack |
If you watch the whole video it's clear Zelensky was a bit unhinged before the arguments happen. His rant about Putin is insane on the world stage, he basically confirms his stance is continue the fighting with no intention of talking peace or negotiate, but rather try and manipulate more money from Trump.
So Zelensky has been encouraged by some WEF leaders (In Europe who are not ready to relinquish the kick backs just yet, he also met with major US war mongers prior) to take on Trump in front of the media and it has backfired big time.
This is 100% the EU trying to take down Trump and this is really exposing the globalist agenda and it's danger.
The European leaders messages of support straight after goes to show this was in fact a set up. |
The term "useful idiot" comes to mind.... | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 13:03 - Mar 1 with 124 views | KeithHaynes |
| Trump and Vance on 20:05 - Feb 28 by Gwyn737 |
What message would achieving peace in this way would send to the world?
Invade a sovereign country, take land, millions die and then profit for it when a bully has deemed that’s that’s enough. |
Not so sure if that would be the outcome, talks would follow a ceasefire. Zelensky could back out but at lease a peace for now would be agreed. I’m just concerned about thousands of humans who will continue to die as a result. Not how big a concourse is. |  |
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| Trump and Vance on 13:11 - Mar 1 with 112 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Trump and Vance on 13:03 - Mar 1 by KeithHaynes |
Not so sure if that would be the outcome, talks would follow a ceasefire. Zelensky could back out but at lease a peace for now would be agreed. I’m just concerned about thousands of humans who will continue to die as a result. Not how big a concourse is. |
PK they have a ceasefire and talks begin, Putin has said he wants to keep all he already has and Trump agreed. Then Trump tiold Ukraine to keep getting support they need to sign the deal giving the USA billions in mineral rights BUT he wouldn't guatrantee their security leaving the door open for Putin in the future.
What kind of a deal is that? | | | |
| Trump and Vance on 18:55 - Mar 1 with 32 views | johnlangy |
Vance talked about diplomacy with Putin being the answer to stopping the war. Zelensky asked him a simple question.
He said Putin signed a ceasefire agreement in 2019 after the Crimea invasion (Macron and Merkel also involved in the negotiations). A couple of years later he just ignored the agreement and invaded Ukraine again. So he asked what sort of diplomacy will work this time ? He was very calm and measured in asking a what to me was a very reasonable question.
Vance's response was to accuse him (Z) of coming to the Oval Office and being disrespectful in trying to litigate in front of the media.
Throughout the whole 50 minutes or so Zelensky kept calm despite his frustration because on many occasions he had to actually ASK for a chance to give his answer to the questions put because Trump just talked and talked and took over virtually the whole meeting.
I thought he did brilliantly. | | | |
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