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Are We Climate Misled? 21:56 - Feb 26 with 868 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

BP, a UK company, has just signed a deal with Iraq to produce 20 Billion Barrels of Oil. This will increase CO2 emissions by the equivalent of what the total UK CO2 emissions are by 50 percent for the duration of the contract.

Then on the same day we get told the below, are we being misled?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpv4m3x1ldgo
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Are We Climate Misled? on 22:03 - Feb 26 with 825 viewsFlashberryjack

F course we are.

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Are We Climate Misled? on 22:10 - Feb 26 with 796 viewsScotia

No.

It's just one company being led by shareholders compared to what the entire planet actually needs to do.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 23:00 - Feb 26 with 761 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Are We Climate Misled? on 22:10 - Feb 26 by Scotia

No.

It's just one company being led by shareholders compared to what the entire planet actually needs to do.


We have 40 airports, India has announced it is to build 220 in the he next five years! India increases it's emissions by more than the UK produces every two years.

Huge countries like Brazil, India, Russia and the USA are moving in a different direction.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indias-operational-airports-rise-to-140-from-74-

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Are We Climate Misled? on 23:04 - Feb 26 with 748 viewsmax936

Are We Climate Misled? on 23:00 - Feb 26 by JACKMANANDBOY

We have 40 airports, India has announced it is to build 220 in the he next five years! India increases it's emissions by more than the UK produces every two years.

Huge countries like Brazil, India, Russia and the USA are moving in a different direction.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indias-operational-airports-rise-to-140-from-74-


We produced 1% of the Worlds emissions yet we again have to be the leaders, its incredible and its the british tax payer that's paying for it.

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Are We Climate Misled? on 01:18 - Feb 27 with 698 viewsWhiterockin

We are just being used as a plaything by politicians who want to score points on a world stage. The poorest of the British public are paying disproportionately for political vanity projects. When the big pollution emitting countries of the world pay their fair share, only then should we pay our share.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 09:08 - Feb 27 with 573 viewsScotia

Are We Climate Misled? on 23:00 - Feb 26 by JACKMANANDBOY

We have 40 airports, India has announced it is to build 220 in the he next five years! India increases it's emissions by more than the UK produces every two years.

Huge countries like Brazil, India, Russia and the USA are moving in a different direction.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/indias-operational-airports-rise-to-140-from-74-


They are heading in a differnt direction. Future generations will suffer. Big time.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 09:12 - Feb 27 with 571 viewsBoundy

Are We Climate Misled? on 22:03 - Feb 26 by Flashberryjack

F course we are.


Agree , climate change is the new ice age ( in case you missed it , it never happened ). The Globalists way of screwing us for more but we all smile whilst doing our bit. Just think every time you dispose thought fully dispose of of your plastic water bottle, in fact any plastic item, only 9% is recycled the rest goes into landfill . Don't get me wrong I'm a champion for recycling religiously but not stupid enough to think that even after all our efforts combined its making a mark on mankind's footprint.

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Are We Climate Misled? on 09:24 - Feb 27 with 563 viewsraynor94

Absolutely, we are a pimple on an elephants backside compared to the big polluters, like India China and the US, what is the point of a heat pump on badly insulated homes.

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Are We Climate Misled? on 10:16 - Feb 27 with 541 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Government to expand Gatwick

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjdz9q170yo

Heidi Alexander Transport Secretary calls people objecting Flight Shaming Eco Warriors.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 11:18 - Feb 27 with 475 viewsKeithHaynes

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Are We Climate Misled? on 11:39 - Feb 27 with 457 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Are We Climate Misled? on 10:16 - Feb 27 by JACKMANANDBOY

Government to expand Gatwick

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjdz9q170yo

Heidi Alexander Transport Secretary calls people objecting Flight Shaming Eco Warriors.
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Great news will stop planes circling over both Heathrow and Gatwick waiting for landing spots, often for 30 minutes, burning fuel.

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Are We Climate Misled? on 13:34 - Feb 27 with 384 viewsAnotherJohn

Developments like the one in the OP just show how misguided Miliband's policy on North Sea oil and gas is. In the transitional period, we are going to import non-Green energy even if we do not produce it, and the carbon footprint will probably be even higher.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 15:29 - Feb 27 with 338 viewsSullutaCreturned

Are We Climate Misled? on 09:08 - Feb 27 by Scotia

They are heading in a differnt direction. Future generations will suffer. Big time.


SO the UK tax payer has to suffer now for no point AND in the future.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 16:15 - Feb 27 with 311 viewsScotia

Are We Climate Misled? on 15:29 - Feb 27 by SullutaCreturned

SO the UK tax payer has to suffer now for no point AND in the future.


No. There's not a great deal of point in the UK tax payer suffering solely to contribute towards reducing greenhouse gas emissions, we don't make much difference. Every country in the world needs to do their bit but it's not going to happen.

We need to move towards energy security and reduce the need to import fuel / energy. There'd also be a great advantage in us being pioneers of renewable energy and sustainable fuels too. So that's definitely worthy of investment

We are heading to a catastrophic tipping point, it's just that not even our grandkids will be around to see it so many people don't care. Although I suspect climate change will mean their lives will be a bit more difficult.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 16:39 - Feb 27 with 284 viewscontroversial_jack

It's the biggest con of all time. Even if we stopped all co2 today, it would take centuries to seen any effect. Don't worry about our grandkids
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Are We Climate Misled? on 16:46 - Feb 27 with 266 viewsReslovenSwan1

I go back to basics.

Fossil fuels are finite. They are energy stored in rock formed a long time ago. The sun's energy 300 m years ago converted the sun's energy back into Carbon. Releasing that carbon releases the heat energy from those days and puts the carbon back into the atmosphere. This is released not at a gradual rate but dumped in a hurry (geologically speaking All at once).

This is not good of course. Like anything like eating is it better not to overdo do it and have a spurge causing imbalances.

If you burn wood from a sustainable forest everything is in balance as absorbing is in balance with creation.

It is a philosophy.

The planet has the capacity to do this. Air transport is an exception possibly ships but most other things can be done using wind nuclear and solar.

No one is m being misled. The philosophy is clear. Chinese can build new coal fired station but are also planting billions of trees. Their people do not want to breath soot either.

It's a philosophy and not politics.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 16:55 - Feb 27 with 261 viewsmax936

Are We Climate Misled? on 13:34 - Feb 27 by AnotherJohn

Developments like the one in the OP just show how misguided Miliband's policy on North Sea oil and gas is. In the transitional period, we are going to import non-Green energy even if we do not produce it, and the carbon footprint will probably be even higher.
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Miliband is just determined to bring this carbon neutral BS in his attempt to enhance himself as a top Labour Minister and this is his baby in trying to achieve that aim, he doesn't realise that he was bloody hopeless the first time round and it'll be history repeating itself.

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Are We Climate Misled? on 17:03 - Feb 27 with 242 viewsmax936

Are We Climate Misled? on 16:15 - Feb 27 by Scotia

No. There's not a great deal of point in the UK tax payer suffering solely to contribute towards reducing greenhouse gas emissions, we don't make much difference. Every country in the world needs to do their bit but it's not going to happen.

We need to move towards energy security and reduce the need to import fuel / energy. There'd also be a great advantage in us being pioneers of renewable energy and sustainable fuels too. So that's definitely worthy of investment

We are heading to a catastrophic tipping point, it's just that not even our grandkids will be around to see it so many people don't care. Although I suspect climate change will mean their lives will be a bit more difficult.


You do realise we are a minuscule country who burn 1% of the world's carbon emissions, no other country cares.

Our governments only pretend to care so that they can rob us of more of our hard earned, fact.

Concentrate on our polluted waterways, that's gone way beyond catastrophic!

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Are We Climate Misled? on 17:12 - Feb 27 with 219 viewsScotia

Are We Climate Misled? on 17:03 - Feb 27 by max936

You do realise we are a minuscule country who burn 1% of the world's carbon emissions, no other country cares.

Our governments only pretend to care so that they can rob us of more of our hard earned, fact.

Concentrate on our polluted waterways, that's gone way beyond catastrophic!


Yes. That's the point of my first paragraph.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 17:35 - Feb 27 with 200 viewsSullutaCreturned

Are We Climate Misled? on 17:12 - Feb 27 by Scotia

Yes. That's the point of my first paragraph.


All I see happening right now is our bills are rising for little appreciable gain in renewables.

Can't the government slow down the march to renenables so the UK tax payer isn't so hard pressed? There are oil fields around the UK that could be used so we don't have to import so much oil.

If the world is going to hell in a handcart anyway, what is the point in us paying very high costs immediately, why the desire to be first? Because the politicos want to look good. They don't care about the cost to the tax payer.
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Are We Climate Misled? on 18:00 - Feb 27 with 172 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Are We Climate Misled? on 17:35 - Feb 27 by SullutaCreturned

All I see happening right now is our bills are rising for little appreciable gain in renewables.

Can't the government slow down the march to renenables so the UK tax payer isn't so hard pressed? There are oil fields around the UK that could be used so we don't have to import so much oil.

If the world is going to hell in a handcart anyway, what is the point in us paying very high costs immediately, why the desire to be first? Because the politicos want to look good. They don't care about the cost to the tax payer.


Going hell for leather using today's technology will look rather silly in 5, 10 or 20 years time when the solutions will look much better or completely different. In the interim the ordinary taxpayer will have been punished

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Are We Climate Misled? on 19:21 - Feb 27 with 81 viewsReslovenSwan1

Are We Climate Misled? on 17:03 - Feb 27 by max936

You do realise we are a minuscule country who burn 1% of the world's carbon emissions, no other country cares.

Our governments only pretend to care so that they can rob us of more of our hard earned, fact.

Concentrate on our polluted waterways, that's gone way beyond catastrophic!


We can live cleanly or continue to be the "dirty man of Europe". The Scandinavians cared when we burned coal. Their forests were being ravaged by acid rain. We did the right thing and close our coal fired stations. In this matter at least we were good neighbours.

China and South east Asia will follow our lead because they want to be like us.

UK is living beyond its means with the national debt increasing every year. winters are very mild these days and most can turn down the heating to save money. There has barely been a frost in Neath.

People have been seduced by "cutting red tape" and "easing back on regulations". In real terms this includes shoving guano into the river to keep the price of KFCs down.
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