| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine 05:33 - Feb 19 with 1505 views | mangohilljack |
So, the slug is determined to protect Ukraine’s borders while shamelessly neglecting his own. He expects our citizens—our children, siblings, and parents—to risk their lives for a war that isn’t theirs to fight. All this while legitimate peace talks (led by Trump and Putin) are actively working toward a resolution.
It’s truly baffling that there are still people who believe this muppet is doing a good job. The world has well and truly lost its marbles. |  | | |  |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:24 - Feb 19 with 972 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
They will not be going there to fight and their presence theoretically will be agreed a by Russia. If Russia attacks again after agreeing b not to this will probably after the appeasing President has gone ( 2029).
Hopefully EU will have tucked into the $300; billion frozen assets to pay the UK military and Bae Systems for some nice new kit.
We are living the Brexit nightmare and cannot sit back. |  |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:33 - Feb 19 with 963 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:24 - Feb 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
They will not be going there to fight and their presence theoretically will be agreed a by Russia. If Russia attacks again after agreeing b not to this will probably after the appeasing President has gone ( 2029).
Hopefully EU will have tucked into the $300; billion frozen assets to pay the UK military and Bae Systems for some nice new kit.
We are living the Brexit nightmare and cannot sit back. |
If they’re not going to fight then what’s the point of them being there?
You just know that a missile will “accidentally” hit their station. |  |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 11:00 - Feb 19 with 945 views | Boundy |
Well looking at these pics it looks like he's leading the charge . But then again a pink gin and a snooze in his "gentleman's " club will take precedent . Funny j how it looks like history repeating itself , another arsecrack whose quite happy to send in the lads in the knowledge that they'll be underequipped and undermanned
https://www.gbnews.com/news/starmer-sparks-fury-after-cos-playing-in-military-ga | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 11:52 - Feb 19 with 899 views | controversial_jack |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 11:00 - Feb 19 by Boundy |
Well looking at these pics it looks like he's leading the charge . But then again a pink gin and a snooze in his "gentleman's " club will take precedent . Funny j how it looks like history repeating itself , another arsecrack whose quite happy to send in the lads in the knowledge that they'll be underequipped and undermanned
https://www.gbnews.com/news/starmer-sparks-fury-after-cos-playing-in-military-ga |
They would be slaughtered. WE have no defenses against Russian missiles. This isn't Northern Ireland or even Afghanistan. They are a picnic compared to this conflict | | | |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:19 - Feb 19 with 863 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:33 - Feb 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If they’re not going to fight then what’s the point of them being there?
You just know that a missile will “accidentally” hit their station. |
Deterrence is a long standing principle of defence. The terms must be allowed to shoot back if attacked. | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:20 - Feb 19 with 864 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:19 - Feb 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Deterrence is a long standing principle of defence. The terms must be allowed to shoot back if attacked. |
How do they shoot back if they happen to be dead? | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:21 - Feb 19 with 857 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 11:52 - Feb 19 by controversial_jack |
They would be slaughtered. WE have no defenses against Russian missiles. This isn't Northern Ireland or even Afghanistan. They are a picnic compared to this conflict |
This is the Russo Trump plan to end ths war. What is your option out of interest ? Total surrender presumably? | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:34 - Feb 19 with 849 views | Boundy |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:21 - Feb 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
This is the Russo Trump plan to end ths war. What is your option out of interest ? Total surrender presumably? |
If you were Zelensky this morning that would appear to be exactly what Trump wants. .Ukraine to accept the handouts offered be by Putin or Trump. | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:52 - Feb 19 with 822 views | controversial_jack |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:21 - Feb 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
This is the Russo Trump plan to end ths war. What is your option out of interest ? Total surrender presumably? |
Yes, Ukraine has to surrender or be destroyed. They are in no position to negotiate they have no leverage | | | |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 13:04 - Feb 19 with 800 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:52 - Feb 19 by controversial_jack |
Yes, Ukraine has to surrender or be destroyed. They are in no position to negotiate they have no leverage |
Of course they have leverage. They have held on for 3 years and the longer it goes on the more Russians die, the more Putin’s power weakens. They are picking off members of Putin’s inner circle and getting closer to him all the time.
Edit: not to mention they are occupying part of Russia itself. [Post edited 19 Feb 13:06]
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 13:18 - Feb 19 with 778 views | Boundy |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:52 - Feb 19 by controversial_jack |
Yes, Ukraine has to surrender or be destroyed. They are in no position to negotiate they have no leverage |
Destroyed you say , hmm they're finding it very difficult to gain then hold land so why would you think that ,unless you believe the propaganda which so far has lied misinformed , no N Korean troops you say , you're right they're no more, destroyed | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 15:20 - Feb 19 with 693 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:20 - Feb 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
How do they shoot back if they happen to be dead? |
This is forum knockaboutary. The military can go about digging in and making formidable defences. | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 15:29 - Feb 19 with 691 views | SullutaCreturned |
How cam any talks without Ukraine involved be legitimate?
Why has Trump apparently taken Russia's side in this and even stated "Uktaine shouldn't have started it" and said other false nonsense too?
We should never let UK troops go there. The Wets has treated this as a way to weaken Russia but now Trump has stepped in all of that, all the deaths, they're worthless and they were already a terrible waste of live.
All that talk from certain people about Russia helping Biden win, maybe those people can explain why Trump os so keem to help Russia with this? |Even to the point of excluding Europe. | | | |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 17:24 - Feb 19 with 663 views | DJack |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:33 - Feb 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
If they’re not going to fight then what’s the point of them being there?
You just know that a missile will “accidentally” hit their station. |
They would be acting as a "tripwire". |  |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 18:18 - Feb 19 with 626 views | SullutaCreturned |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 17:24 - Feb 19 by DJack |
They would be acting as a "tripwire". |
If any Western troops (NATO or just the UK) go into Ukraine what will Putin do? He has already said no, would we be starting something there's no coming back from?
That tripwire could set off the biggest bomb... | | | |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 18:53 - Feb 19 with 589 views | DJack |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 18:18 - Feb 19 by SullutaCreturned |
If any Western troops (NATO or just the UK) go into Ukraine what will Putin do? He has already said no, would we be starting something there's no coming back from?
That tripwire could set off the biggest bomb... |
Anything "could" happen. What is likely is that Putin and hus toy poodle Medvedev will sabre rattle, shout grievances and lie about western "promises".
Every Russian knows that the west,/ NATO is not going to invade or attack Russia. In fact there are at least two known events where Russian systems alerted the duty command of a NATO strike and each time a relatively junior Russian officer said "nope" that's not happening and they didn't launch a counterstrike to the ghost attack. | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 19:23 - Feb 19 with 559 views | controversial_jack |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 13:04 - Feb 19 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Of course they have leverage. They have held on for 3 years and the longer it goes on the more Russians die, the more Putin’s power weakens. They are picking off members of Putin’s inner circle and getting closer to him all the time.
Edit: not to mention they are occupying part of Russia itself. [Post edited 19 Feb 13:06]
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The Ukraine is losing badly, they are falling back on all fronts. The can't replace their losses | | | |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 19:42 - Feb 19 with 544 views | SullutaCreturned |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 18:53 - Feb 19 by DJack |
Anything "could" happen. What is likely is that Putin and hus toy poodle Medvedev will sabre rattle, shout grievances and lie about western "promises".
Every Russian knows that the west,/ NATO is not going to invade or attack Russia. In fact there are at least two known events where Russian systems alerted the duty command of a NATO strike and each time a relatively junior Russian officer said "nope" that's not happening and they didn't launch a counterstrike to the ghost attack. |
That might have been the case before Trump became a Russophile. If he feels safe from American action, who knows? | | | |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 20:05 - Feb 19 with 522 views | Boundy |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 19:23 - Feb 19 by controversial_jack |
The Ukraine is losing badly, they are falling back on all fronts. The can't replace their losses |
You said that 3 years ago and yet here we are today | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 22:47 - Feb 19 with 460 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
People underestimate Germany. The world has been keen to see them timid and liberal but Trump is leading the cause for a new mighty German "Wehrmacht".
They have pretty good record of building formidable and courageous forces. I woud fancy them against any Russian rag tag outfit remnants of 3 months of torrid meat wave losses. | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:05 - Feb 20 with 337 views | Boundy |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 22:47 - Feb 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
People underestimate Germany. The world has been keen to see them timid and liberal but Trump is leading the cause for a new mighty German "Wehrmacht".
They have pretty good record of building formidable and courageous forces. I woud fancy them against any Russian rag tag outfit remnants of 3 months of torrid meat wave losses. |
and yet lost two world wars | |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:28 - Feb 20 with 304 views | controversial_jack |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 20:05 - Feb 19 by Boundy |
You said that 3 years ago and yet here we are today |
Yes, here we are, still losing badly. | | | |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:27 - Feb 20 with 255 views | mangohilljack |
Trump has called for a full audit of U.S. funding to Ukraine, determined to uncover where the billions have actually gone. He’s on the verge of exposing the Senate and Congress for what appears to be a massive money-laundering operation.
Meanwhile, in other news—Zelensky’s arrest is imminent. You heard it here first. | | | |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:31 - Feb 20 with 242 views | union_jack |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:05 - Feb 20 by Boundy |
and yet lost two world wars |
I’d rather them on our side if there’s a next time. Great troops but weak from a leadership level. |  |
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| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 12:35 - Feb 20 with 237 views | Boundy |
| 2 tier keir wants to send troops to Ukraine on 10:28 - Feb 20 by controversial_jack |
Yes, here we are, still losing badly. |
But not lost , despite your comments after all these years . | |
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