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Ban 22:49 - Feb 18 with 1848 viewsBoundy

Grey hound racing in Wales to be banned because 35k allegedly signed a petition, nearly half a million signed a petition to discuss the 20 mph speed limit,that was ignored .Virtue signalling at it's worst.

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Ban on 23:11 - Feb 18 with 958 viewsonehunglow

Shame they didn't ban horse racing too
Animals should not be used for human entertainment
Many greyhounds ended up with horrific ends
Wales notoriously for cruelty in this

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Ban on 23:27 - Feb 18 with 953 viewsKilkennyjack

Communication to the public on both has been woeful.

The 20 mph is in place in many English cities.
First year figues in Wales now say ….. ‘The first year of a controversial Welsh speed limit saw around 100 fewer people killed or seriously injured on 20 and 30mph roads, ministers have said’.
I think thats enough to shut most half sensible people up.

Not as convinced by the new dog racing ban, but i look forward to understanding more.

Beware of the Risen People

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Ban on 23:32 - Feb 18 with 942 viewslifelong

Ban on 23:11 - Feb 18 by onehunglow

Shame they didn't ban horse racing too
Animals should not be used for human entertainment
Many greyhounds ended up with horrific ends
Wales notoriously for cruelty in this


There are 21 licensed greyhound tracks in England and Wales, 20 of them are in England.

https://oxford-stadium.co.uk/blog/how-many-greyhound-racing-tracks-are-there-in-
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Ban on 06:30 - Feb 19 with 853 viewsScotia

At the last Senedd election there were about 1.2 million individual votes for parties with a 20 mph speed limit in their manifesto.

The petition may have been officially ignored, but Welsh Labour obviously realise they've made a massive mistake and are changing some roads back.

If people actually voted though, we wouldn't have 20 mph limits everywhere or a Labour led Senedd.
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Ban on 07:49 - Feb 19 with 837 viewsDaggyjack

Ban on 23:11 - Feb 18 by onehunglow

Shame they didn't ban horse racing too
Animals should not be used for human entertainment
Many greyhounds ended up with horrific ends
Wales notoriously for cruelty in this


With regards to horse racing, that's an old worn out tune that keeps getting played - these horses are looked after / cared for so well - they have the best of everything generally and in my experience, the aftercare once retired is superb.
Most injuries take place running around a field rather than on a track, though of course, I agree, it's heartbreaking when a horse breaks down.
Also, let me tell you, if a horse didn't want to run and jump, they wouldn't!!
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Ban on 08:16 - Feb 19 with 814 viewsAnotherJohn

It would be interesting to know how many people in Swansea who have dogs will be affected by the ban. Presumably the demise of the old greyhound racing track near Harris Brothers on Ystrad Road meant that interest was decreasing. I often wondered what happened with the mystery fire that preceded the closure. The fire is not mentioned in the Wiki entry below. Does anybody know?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_Greyhound_Stadium
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Ban on 08:47 - Feb 19 with 780 viewsonehunglow

Ban on 23:32 - Feb 18 by lifelong

There are 21 licensed greyhound tracks in England and Wales, 20 of them are in England.

https://oxford-stadium.co.uk/blog/how-many-greyhound-racing-tracks-are-there-in-
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Again, you get Welsh offended this time over dog racing
It should not occur anywhere

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Ban on 08:50 - Feb 19 with 778 viewsonehunglow

Ban on 07:49 - Feb 19 by Daggyjack

With regards to horse racing, that's an old worn out tune that keeps getting played - these horses are looked after / cared for so well - they have the best of everything generally and in my experience, the aftercare once retired is superb.
Most injuries take place running around a field rather than on a track, though of course, I agree, it's heartbreaking when a horse breaks down.
Also, let me tell you, if a horse didn't want to run and jump, they wouldn't!!


Morally
No animal should be used simply for human fun
Horses are there purely to make money and to feed the sates of gamblers
Too fookingvrught it should be banned
Spaniards defend bullfighting
Bulls love the sport apparently
They get looked after too prior to getting slaughtered

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Ban on 08:57 - Feb 19 with 778 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Ban on 23:27 - Feb 18 by Kilkennyjack

Communication to the public on both has been woeful.

The 20 mph is in place in many English cities.
First year figues in Wales now say ….. ‘The first year of a controversial Welsh speed limit saw around 100 fewer people killed or seriously injured on 20 and 30mph roads, ministers have said’.
I think thats enough to shut most half sensible people up.

Not as convinced by the new dog racing ban, but i look forward to understanding more.


They have combined the data for 20 and 30 mph zones when they could have reported on the 20mph zones. Never mind let's hope the people will not notice.

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Ban on 09:35 - Feb 19 with 721 viewsmajorraglan

Lots of good points in this thread, which to be honest is an issue I’ve never really given a lot of thought to. Greyhound racing is something which appears to have been in decline for a long time and there are significant concerns about animal welfare.
That said, I’m not convinced that it is something the WG should be banning.
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Ban on 09:36 - Feb 19 with 721 viewsBoundy

Ban on 23:32 - Feb 18 by lifelong

There are 21 licensed greyhound tracks in England and Wales, 20 of them are in England.

https://oxford-stadium.co.uk/blog/how-many-greyhound-racing-tracks-are-there-in-
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Then that just reinforces my comment on virtue signalling more valid . how about tackling puppy farms which are stinking cesspits for the greedy .

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Ban on 09:44 - Feb 19 with 705 viewsonehunglow

Ban on 09:36 - Feb 19 by Boundy

Then that just reinforces my comment on virtue signalling more valid . how about tackling puppy farms which are stinking cesspits for the greedy .


Hi
Agree
Puppy farms are horrific
The demise of greyhound tracks sits with the disintegration of Speedway, which I love,
Many British tracks from Somerton Park to Belle Vue had speedway tracks adjacent some of which were pretty dangerous
Sign of the times really

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Ban on 10:04 - Feb 19 with 687 viewsBoundy

Ban on 09:44 - Feb 19 by onehunglow

Hi
Agree
Puppy farms are horrific
The demise of greyhound tracks sits with the disintegration of Speedway, which I love,
Many British tracks from Somerton Park to Belle Vue had speedway tracks adjacent some of which were pretty dangerous
Sign of the times really


Morning Sir, My father was born in Skewen and my grandparents lived on Charles Street which is where opposite the dog track ( now a housing estate for the posh and needy) was located and we were often taken there to watch a race or two, dogs definitely and I suppose to some extent horses love to run around and to be honest I don't follow horse racing but aware that during the National for example many horses have died , and as dog racing seems to have faded from the memory I've never considered the welfare of the dogs .

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Ban on 10:18 - Feb 19 with 667 viewsDaggyjack

Nonsensical comparison.
You only know the extent that horses are looked during and after their racing careers if you are involved.
Of course, there are those in life that mis-treat any animal beit horses or dogs and they should be nowhere near both the animals or the sport in my opinion,
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Ban on 10:21 - Feb 19 with 656 viewsonehunglow

Ban on 10:04 - Feb 19 by Boundy

Morning Sir, My father was born in Skewen and my grandparents lived on Charles Street which is where opposite the dog track ( now a housing estate for the posh and needy) was located and we were often taken there to watch a race or two, dogs definitely and I suppose to some extent horses love to run around and to be honest I don't follow horse racing but aware that during the National for example many horses have died , and as dog racing seems to have faded from the memory I've never considered the welfare of the dogs .


Neath Speedway ran for just one season in 1962
Weren't supported by local people

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Ban on 11:05 - Feb 19 with 639 viewsBoundy

Ban on 10:21 - Feb 19 by onehunglow

Neath Speedway ran for just one season in 1962
Weren't supported by local people


Too noisy I expect

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Ban on 11:34 - Feb 19 with 624 viewstheloneranger

Ban on 10:21 - Feb 19 by onehunglow

Neath Speedway ran for just one season in 1962
Weren't supported by local people


Another massive problem - was that there was no track lighting!!

Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎

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Ban on 11:50 - Feb 19 with 603 viewsonehunglow

Ban on 11:34 - Feb 19 by theloneranger

Another massive problem - was that there was no track lighting!!


No dirt deflectors in those days and bikes were very raw indeed, like sitting on a razor blade that you couldn't slow down apart from easing off the throttle
Speedway was massive just after the war
Wembley Lions had gates of 50000 and Zlondon had many tracks
The old White City was something to behold

Check out the 81 World Final on you tube
Most glorious sports event I've been to

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Ban on 12:12 - Feb 19 with 588 viewsFlashberryjack

Ban on 08:47 - Feb 19 by onehunglow

Again, you get Welsh offended this time over dog racing
It should not occur anywhere


Horse racing, Greyhound racing, f*ck me!!! you'd even ban Christmas if you could.

Your really are a right miserable git.

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Ban on 12:48 - Feb 19 with 546 viewsAnotherJohn

I suppose the closure of the last Welsh stadium in Ystrad Mynach , whether right or wrong, will signal another case of a pursuit that was once common slipping into history. Here are some images of that track.

https://www.valleygreyhounds.com/

I also found a couple of photographs of the Swansea Greyhound stadium site in Ystrad Road before and after closure.

https://alchetron.com/Swansea-Greyhound-Stadium

https://www.flickr.com/photos/decisive-moment-photography/albums/721576302077679

There doesn't seem to be much left now. I was under the impression that the fire , which seems to have occurred a while after a council-imposed closure order, destroyed a club house. Does anybody know?

Edit. Some more info about the Swansea Fforestfach track that closed in 2009.

https://greyhoundracingtimes.co.uk/2018/12/17/swansea-fforestfach/
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Ban on 13:03 - Feb 19 with 532 viewsDaggyjack

Ban on 10:21 - Feb 19 by onehunglow

Neath Speedway ran for just one season in 1962
Weren't supported by local people


I used to go to Carmarthen Speedway in the early 2000's - they stopped for the same reason.
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Ban on 13:25 - Feb 19 with 506 viewsonehunglow

Ban on 12:12 - Feb 19 by Flashberryjack

Horse racing, Greyhound racing, f*ck me!!! you'd even ban Christmas if you could.

Your really are a right miserable git.


Well, it's why Jehovahs witnesses appeals to me
They don't celebrate birthdays nor Christmas

You're a devil

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Ban on 13:28 - Feb 19 with 511 viewsBoundy

For anyone interested in a little localish history ( as a Birchgrove boy I often wandered over the border ( the Bowens Arms ) into unknown territory
https://alchetron.com/Skewen-Greyhound-Stadium

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Ban on 13:33 - Feb 19 with 503 viewslifelong

Ban on 08:47 - Feb 19 by onehunglow

Again, you get Welsh offended this time over dog racing
It should not occur anywhere


No, you state that Wales is notorious for cruelty in this activity, how does it differ in Wales compared to other countries. Before you make such a disgusting comment why don’t you do some research in the matter? Or is it just another of your stupid criticism of anything that is Welsh, it really is pathetic.
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Ban on 13:47 - Feb 19 with 476 viewsAnotherJohn

Ban on 13:28 - Feb 19 by Boundy

For anyone interested in a little localish history ( as a Birchgrove boy I often wandered over the border ( the Bowens Arms ) into unknown territory
https://alchetron.com/Skewen-Greyhound-Stadium


Carrying on with the local history aspect, here are details of an earlier Fforestfach greyhound track, the White City Stadium, which was located in the area now occupied by Swansea Self Storage on Queensway.

https://greyhoundracingtimes.co.uk/2018/12/17/swansea-white-city/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_City,_Swansea_Greyhound_Track

Edit. And the third Swansea track (fourth if you count Skewen) was located in Glais.

https://greyhoundracingtimes.co.uk/2018/12/18/swansea-glais/

Wonder what our grandparents' generation would have made of the upcoming ban, or a lot of other contemporary developments for that matter.
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