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So unprofessional, click above.
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I refer to the response from Mod C and Keith.
On this occasion we are singing from the same hymnsheet.
Anyone who cannot see that the particular poster I "attacked" was wrong needs to read all three posts and maybe reconsider their position and support the site owner and his team in the good work that they do ? |
Sorry stif
Got distracted by a poster
We really are on the same hymn sheet which is a first really and shows not all of us can be wrong
I am struggling to keep myself in check regarding what I post but if we are that united as a fan base then our voices should be heard
We are being taken for mugs | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 17:23 - Feb 16 with 1392 views | onehunglow |
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Are you suggesting that Bournemouth are only doing well because their owners are wealthy?
Maybe one day think for a minute or two before posting obvious nonsense and I won't feel the need to point out that it is. |
No
That said, any dialogue with you is always couched in contempt
There are many I disagree with on here but I refrain from stooping from patronising shite
Bear in mind your views on our club and its players are similar in many ways
Sadly , you are now back on ignore | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 18:04 - Feb 16 with 1312 views | jack_lord |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 11:54 - Feb 16 by KeithHaynes |
That was nearly 24 years ago, and the action against the club at the time started in 1997. Those same supporters saved the club, gave us the best period in Swansea history. It doesn’t fall upon them again. There’s a lot of people complaining especially on social media. The majority too scared to stand up because their names are anonymous and some have a history of social media abuse.
The intent to do something isn’t there, the will to stand up and be counted isn’t there. We would actively and positively support any move by the fans to take action. This website would give them a national reach in a day. But nothing is happening because it takes more than a few lines on social media generally insulting to others. This is the world now sadly.
As per the report, those days many years ago and contained real people with names and dedication to the club. That spine isn’t evident at this time. And I doubt very much it ever will.
Sensible post which is appreciated 👍 |
And of course the Party that purchased the club from Martin and the gang absolutely diluted the Trust to be completely ineffective.
"My club" is being destroyed before me. The right hand has no idea idea what the left hand is doing. The manager is so far out of his depth it is almost farcical.
Social media is a platform that could project the depth of sadness and anger with the status quo but it really does need people to push forward. The same social media might bring those who are brave enough to put themselves forward down as well. Swansea has always been a very big village with every one knowing someone so social media has multiplied that tenfold.
My anger has reached a point where I do not want to watch another Swans game, either at the ground or on telly until that guy masquerading as a Championship manager resigns or is sacked.
I have heard that the hierarchy have said that it would cost too much to sack him.
I have suggested that we have a bucket collection to pay off this termination as a parody of Williams existence at this club. It is all about turning the screw because it seems the mainstream media don't want to do it. |  |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 18:04 - Feb 16 by jack_lord |
And of course the Party that purchased the club from Martin and the gang absolutely diluted the Trust to be completely ineffective.
"My club" is being destroyed before me. The right hand has no idea idea what the left hand is doing. The manager is so far out of his depth it is almost farcical.
Social media is a platform that could project the depth of sadness and anger with the status quo but it really does need people to push forward. The same social media might bring those who are brave enough to put themselves forward down as well. Swansea has always been a very big village with every one knowing someone so social media has multiplied that tenfold.
My anger has reached a point where I do not want to watch another Swans game, either at the ground or on telly until that guy masquerading as a Championship manager resigns or is sacked.
I have heard that the hierarchy have said that it would cost too much to sack him.
I have suggested that we have a bucket collection to pay off this termination as a parody of Williams existence at this club. It is all about turning the screw because it seems the mainstream media don't want to do it. |
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I've said many times the cost of keeping him will cost us far more
It's no hype to suggest we could go to the wall
New ownership has changed nothing and that's the worst thing of all
Dark days ahead
Get him out
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 18:17 - Feb 16 with 1264 views | KeithHaynes |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 18:04 - Feb 16 by jack_lord |
And of course the Party that purchased the club from Martin and the gang absolutely diluted the Trust to be completely ineffective.
"My club" is being destroyed before me. The right hand has no idea idea what the left hand is doing. The manager is so far out of his depth it is almost farcical.
Social media is a platform that could project the depth of sadness and anger with the status quo but it really does need people to push forward. The same social media might bring those who are brave enough to put themselves forward down as well. Swansea has always been a very big village with every one knowing someone so social media has multiplied that tenfold.
My anger has reached a point where I do not want to watch another Swans game, either at the ground or on telly until that guy masquerading as a Championship manager resigns or is sacked.
I have heard that the hierarchy have said that it would cost too much to sack him.
I have suggested that we have a bucket collection to pay off this termination as a parody of Williams existence at this club. It is all about turning the screw because it seems the mainstream media don't want to do it. |
The lack of response to Williams sacking by the club is very much down to his contract which is three and a half years. I’ve been told that the detail of his contract means if he is sacked he gets the full amount in compo not some deal that Duff went on. Plus there are other caveats which Coleman agreed to at Williams house when he visited him on hands and knees.
There’s also the ego thing, he is Coleman’s man so it’s egg on his face.
Plus, even though he said he didn’t had much to do with Montague, we called that out yesterday. And put it in out in yesterday’s news report.That’s another reason, if they sack him now Montague could turn and run. And that would or could be the end for him.
The Chairman has forced himself into a corner.
Pop in whether you want 😉
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 19:06 - Feb 16 with 1173 views | jack_lord |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 18:17 - Feb 16 by KeithHaynes |
The lack of response to Williams sacking by the club is very much down to his contract which is three and a half years. I’ve been told that the detail of his contract means if he is sacked he gets the full amount in compo not some deal that Duff went on. Plus there are other caveats which Coleman agreed to at Williams house when he visited him on hands and knees.
There’s also the ego thing, he is Coleman’s man so it’s egg on his face.
Plus, even though he said he didn’t had much to do with Montague, we called that out yesterday. And put it in out in yesterday’s news report.That’s another reason, if they sack him now Montague could turn and run. And that would or could be the end for him.
The Chairman has forced himself into a corner.
Pop in whether you want 😉
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I have heard the rumours correctly then.
We need to get the old solicitors back on the contracts.
I have no doubt that Coleman is putting the hours in but is he in the correct role at the club?
I want to know if it would cost less to employ someone new to oversee footballing matters that basically means that Williams is reduced to an assistant manager without that title.
Whatever happens needs to happen quickly because the players do not seem to know what to actually do. There is no plan. The team looks like it is sinking and that will cost the owners a lot more.
Coleman has to decide if he can clean the egg off his face.
I'm always around ;) but just wont be down the ground for a good while by the looks of things. I really dont like the idea of watching Exeter again. | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 19:18 - Feb 16 with 1148 views | max936 |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 18:17 - Feb 16 by KeithHaynes |
The lack of response to Williams sacking by the club is very much down to his contract which is three and a half years. I’ve been told that the detail of his contract means if he is sacked he gets the full amount in compo not some deal that Duff went on. Plus there are other caveats which Coleman agreed to at Williams house when he visited him on hands and knees.
There’s also the ego thing, he is Coleman’s man so it’s egg on his face.
Plus, even though he said he didn’t had much to do with Montague, we called that out yesterday. And put it in out in yesterday’s news report.That’s another reason, if they sack him now Montague could turn and run. And that would or could be the end for him.
The Chairman has forced himself into a corner.
Pop in whether you want 😉
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Thing is the club can't afford not to sack him, surely the other investors/share can see that as well, income will drop significantly next season if we're in League One which looks increasingly likely with Williams not being able to sort the team out.
Better to take the hit now and try and save the season than to wait till summer or worse still to keep him into next season, I don't think the fans will stand for much more of him either to be honest. |  |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 19:21 - Feb 16 with 1142 views | IJM89 |
Have the club seriously given a manager from league two, coming into his first championship job, the sort of wage that we would not be able to pay off? or at least continue to pay until he is picked up by another team? whilst we move on to new manager? I know the club have a lot to change and get right going forward and quickly, but that would be criminal to back yourselves into such a corner in any line of business. Managers these days are barely making it past 2 years, whether sacked, or taken by another club. I can't imagine a single club in professional football, would ever put themselves in a position, that they cannot get rid of a failing manager due to the finances, this is catastrophic if it really is the case, he has run his cause here, he is all out of ideas, sounds defeated and the players are lost. We may not go down this season, just due to the fact that we have a points gap and 3 of the bottom sides would now have to hit play off form, but if we carry on as we are, we are playing with fire here. [Post edited 16 Feb 19:25]
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 19:39 - Feb 16 with 1041 views | onehunglow |
Seems it's pointless then
We actually can't afford to sack an employee for gross incompetence , which it is
Now , am I correct in believing we can't sack him because of sustainabilitys issue
On that case , how do other clubs do so
We're not all forking accountants
Ordinary folk just see what they do and ask questions
He stays , we go down
We go down and this jerk will see us relegated again
Just wtf is wrong with us | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 18:17 - Feb 16 by KeithHaynes |
The lack of response to Williams sacking by the club is very much down to his contract which is three and a half years. I’ve been told that the detail of his contract means if he is sacked he gets the full amount in compo not some deal that Duff went on. Plus there are other caveats which Coleman agreed to at Williams house when he visited him on hands and knees.
There’s also the ego thing, he is Coleman’s man so it’s egg on his face.
Plus, even though he said he didn’t had much to do with Montague, we called that out yesterday. And put it in out in yesterday’s news report.That’s another reason, if they sack him now Montague could turn and run. And that would or could be the end for him.
The Chairman has forced himself into a corner.
Pop in whether you want 😉
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hes already in a very nasty corner, huge majority of fans want LW sacked, by burying his head in the samd he has multiplied the problems he and the club now face, |  | | |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 19:55 - Feb 16 with 999 views | dobjack2 |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 17:19 - Feb 16 by Dr_Winston |
Are you suggesting that Bournemouth are only doing well because their owners are wealthy?
Maybe one day think for a minute or two before posting obvious nonsense and I won't feel the need to point out that it is. |
The Swiss Rambler wrote that in season 22/23 Bournemouth had an £100 million improvement from a loss of £56 million the year before to a profit of £44 million. The majority of that was due to a write off of £71 million in shareholder loans.
I don't know if P&S rules have changed since then, but only rich shareholders (owners) can afford to write off £71 million.
There's obviously more to their success than just money, for example smart recruitment and sales, but being able to write off £71 million in loans wouldn't have hurt. | | | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 19:55 - Feb 16 by dobjack2 |
The Swiss Rambler wrote that in season 22/23 Bournemouth had an £100 million improvement from a loss of £56 million the year before to a profit of £44 million. The majority of that was due to a write off of £71 million in shareholder loans.
I don't know if P&S rules have changed since then, but only rich shareholders (owners) can afford to write off £71 million.
There's obviously more to their success than just money, for example smart recruitment and sales, but being able to write off £71 million in loans wouldn't have hurt. |
They would have encouraged commercial investment as that isn’t included, nor is ground upkeep, training facilities , improvement to infrastructure, there’s so many areas that will never be in the mix. Clever ownership will always find a way. | |
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Middlesborough owner Steve Gibson converted £149 million of loans into shares and put 14 million into the coffers this season. Reported by Swiss Rambler. | | | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 20:56 - Feb 16 by libertyx |
Middlesborough owner Steve Gibson converted £149 million of loans into shares and put 14 million into the coffers this season. Reported by Swiss Rambler. |
Meanwhile our lot used the Piroe money to satisfy the outstanding charges, instead of servicingthe debt. This meant we were debt free when the ownership changed. IMO we would have been better leaving the money in the company as cash flow, reducing our losses and aiding compliance with P&S. But obviously the owners know better, or do they. |  | | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 21:09 - Feb 16 by Whiterockin |
Meanwhile our lot used the Piroe money to satisfy the outstanding charges, instead of servicingthe debt. This meant we were debt free when the ownership changed. IMO we would have been better leaving the money in the company as cash flow, reducing our losses and aiding compliance with P&S. But obviously the owners know better, or do they. |
I don't for one minute understand on how finance works in football, I'll be honest, it's not something I've ever taken an interest in. | |
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| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 21:43 - Feb 16 with 687 views | dobjack2 |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 21:16 - Feb 16 by max936 |
I don't for one minute understand on how finance works in football, I'll be honest, it's not something I've ever taken an interest in. |
I don't either, but when people who do explain the implications of certain courses of action and what the loopholes are, it just adds to a feeling that our chairman does not really know what he is doing compared with chairmen of better run clubs. | | | |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 22:07 - Feb 16 with 599 views | PawelAbbott |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 17:15 - Feb 16 by onehunglow |
Maybe one day you could reflect on how you come over on forums
Maybe one day accept the views of others without piling on the subtle hate
How long has it been now , 20 yrs
You were little more than a kid when we briefly met
I almost wish I was able to meet you face to face over a glass of orange juice
So yes, Bournemouth
Now , how have they done so well with such a tiny ground and fan base |
Have you seen their new training facilities? They are a huge state of the art complex.
I know that doesn't count towards the fair play rules, but that is a hell of an investment for a club who average less than 20k gates.
You only have to look at our demise to see how rapidly the money can disappear | | | |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 22:42 - Feb 16 with 494 views | onehunglow |
| Exclusive : Chaos in the Swans boardroom and chaos on the pitch : Sponsors leav on 22:07 - Feb 16 by PawelAbbott |
Have you seen their new training facilities? They are a huge state of the art complex.
I know that doesn't count towards the fair play rules, but that is a hell of an investment for a club who average less than 20k gates.
You only have to look at our demise to see how rapidly the money can disappear |
They are incredible | |
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