| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again 23:41 - Feb 3 with 2293 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
I believe Coleman tried his best and delivered Wright to Fairwood. Williams it seems did not give him a positive vibe. For whatever reason he pulled out. Some talk of the club not wanting to pay agents fees. Who knows?
The club moved on good prospects even when they are under contract and cannot close out deals for new players either.
Buying new players is risky.
Having failed to buy players the club must have decent coaches to improve the young players already at the club. It must not buy and keep washed out veterans. Swansea missed out on a promising DMF from Spurs a few years back Tashan Oakley Booth who was in Coopers u17 WC squad. He did not do well at Stoke or Lincoln and is now in Portugal. He also had pedigree.
Wright resembles the Ryan Bennett story where hi e changed his mind and went to Norwich. He gave them 5 good years and Cooper signed him went he was well past his best on big money.
Gazumped by Norwich once again.Reportedly Ryan did a u turn on the M4.
The club could not even get the Welsh kid from Chippenham who went to Peterborough but has been loaned back. Chippenham???? and led a dance by the Orient.
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 07:35 - Feb 4 with 1573 views | EagleEye |
Most clubs have managed to get multiple players in - I read that Luton has brought in 8 players - there is only one place that Andrew Coleman needs to look for this shambles, the mirror |  | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 09:03 - Feb 4 with 1444 views | Boundy |
If you say he's tried his best then his best just isn't good enough as has been since the yanks arrived , another sh**show by those who are clueless and should never been allowed anywhere near the Club. |  |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 10:21 - Feb 4 with 1309 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 09:03 - Feb 4 by Boundy |
If you say he's tried his best then his best just isn't good enough as has been since the yanks arrived , another sh**show by those who are clueless and should never been allowed anywhere near the Club. |
He is accountable. The Welsh fans do not have such high standards for their own group. The one they own.. | |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 10:25 - Feb 4 with 1284 views | QJumpingJack |
What has 2012 got to do with 2025? | | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 10:30 - Feb 4 with 1260 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 10:25 - Feb 4 by QJumpingJack |
What has 2012 got to do with 2025? |
Read the piece it should be obvious . Read it without prejudice. | |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 11:14 - Feb 4 with 1222 views | QJumpingJack |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 10:30 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Read the piece it should be obvious . Read it without prejudice. |
Have you listened to the Trust forum from 2017 yet - where Jason and Steve tell the truth about the Trust in Spring 2016?
Listen to it without prejudice. | | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 11:21 - Feb 4 with 1194 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 11:14 - Feb 4 by QJumpingJack |
Have you listened to the Trust forum from 2017 yet - where Jason and Steve tell the truth about the Trust in Spring 2016?
Listen to it without prejudice. |
The Trust did not want to sell their shares and not one off the timid members said anything. They were financially native in the extreme. Individuals make things happen not committees.
If the Trust had their way Swansea would still have the old owners and in league 2. | |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 11:26 - Feb 4 with 1174 views | PawelAbbott |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 11:21 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The Trust did not want to sell their shares and not one off the timid members said anything. They were financially native in the extreme. Individuals make things happen not committees.
If the Trust had their way Swansea would still have the old owners and in league 2. |
On the subject of the Trust, I would hope that they make a statement in the next day or so with regards to the disappointment of the window, again, and what they propose to discuss with the majority owners to improve the situation going forwards | | | |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 11:27 - Feb 4 with 1174 views | Whiterockin |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 11:14 - Feb 4 by QJumpingJack |
Have you listened to the Trust forum from 2017 yet - where Jason and Steve tell the truth about the Trust in Spring 2016?
Listen to it without prejudice. |
Don't waste your time mate life too short. The WuM just doesn't want to understand the facts. |  | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:08 - Feb 4 with 956 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 11:27 - Feb 4 by Whiterockin |
Don't waste your time mate life too short. The WuM just doesn't want to understand the facts. |
The Trust did not sell any shares because the board member said their shares were not for sale and never would be.
The reason for this was the mandate to increase ownership not reduce it. The best way to do this was to sell high and buy low but this concept was too subtle for them.
Not selling shares was their fault but no strong individual came out of the woodwork. The members were all privates not form the officers mess.
The legal case was a fig leaf They screwed up and tried to blame anyone else. Coleman will apologise in the forum and say he has learned a lot. The h January window is a jungle. Sir Alex did not bother with it.
I suspect Wright agent held the club to ransom under time pressure.
The fans judging by this forum have learned nothing from some tough lessons. That is why they may as well shut the Trust down other than as a pressure group. | |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:16 - Feb 4 with 936 views | Whiterockin |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:08 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The Trust did not sell any shares because the board member said their shares were not for sale and never would be.
The reason for this was the mandate to increase ownership not reduce it. The best way to do this was to sell high and buy low but this concept was too subtle for them.
Not selling shares was their fault but no strong individual came out of the woodwork. The members were all privates not form the officers mess.
The legal case was a fig leaf They screwed up and tried to blame anyone else. Coleman will apologise in the forum and say he has learned a lot. The h January window is a jungle. Sir Alex did not bother with it.
I suspect Wright agent held the club to ransom under time pressure.
The fans judging by this forum have learned nothing from some tough lessons. That is why they may as well shut the Trust down other than as a pressure group. |
No surprise Darling going nowhere was it. Plus Gyokeres is not an £80M player because nobody has paid it. | | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:27 - Feb 4 with 901 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:16 - Feb 4 by Whiterockin |
No surprise Darling going nowhere was it. Plus Gyokeres is not an £80M player because nobody has paid it. |
Swansea did not force him out but did force out Gyorkeres. They keep making bad decisions with managers not having a long term perspective.
This is why the club is slowly getting weaker. The future is Cullen. He is improving to be fair. | |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:35 - Feb 4 with 875 views | QJumpingJack |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:27 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Swansea did not force him out but did force out Gyorkeres. They keep making bad decisions with managers not having a long term perspective.
This is why the club is slowly getting weaker. The future is Cullen. He is improving to be fair. |
Maybe speak to Victor's agent before posting incorrect information all the time about what happened and his stay at Swansea. | | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:41 - Feb 4 with 866 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:35 - Feb 4 by QJumpingJack |
Maybe speak to Victor's agent before posting incorrect information all the time about what happened and his stay at Swansea. |
Id Cooper had played Viktor he would have scored. If he scored he would have stayed for the season with a probably option to buy which Coventry had.
Coventry bought Grimes with the help of the Gyorkeres money. Another Swansea mess up. | |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 18:46 - Feb 4 with 763 views | QJumpingJack |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 15:41 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Id Cooper had played Viktor he would have scored. If he scored he would have stayed for the season with a probably option to buy which Coventry had.
Coventry bought Grimes with the help of the Gyorkeres money. Another Swansea mess up. |
Swansea on loan: appearances: 11; goals: 0 | | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 21:25 - Feb 4 with 642 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 18:46 - Feb 4 by QJumpingJack |
Swansea on loan: appearances: 11; goals: 0 |
He scored a crisp head v Stevenage in the FA cup.. He was a young player needed to be developed having all the raw tools.
Let's hope Vipotnik and Kuharevych can develop like he has. These sort of players are rare. Cooper did not see the potential Robins saw. Robins was a long term manager Cooper declined even his contract and wax a quick fix merchant with his loans.
Players that needed 18 months were no use to him. [Post edited 4 Feb 21:28]
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 21:26 - Feb 4 with 627 views | raynor94 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 21:25 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He scored a crisp head v Stevenage in the FA cup.. He was a young player needed to be developed having all the raw tools.
Let's hope Vipotnik and Kuharevych can develop like he has. These sort of players are rare. Cooper did not see the potential Robins saw. Robins was a long term manager Cooper declined even his contract and wax a quick fix merchant with his loans.
Players that needed 18 months were no use to him. [Post edited 4 Feb 21:28]
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 22:26 - Feb 4 with 541 views | majorraglan |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 21:25 - Feb 4 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He scored a crisp head v Stevenage in the FA cup.. He was a young player needed to be developed having all the raw tools.
Let's hope Vipotnik and Kuharevych can develop like he has. These sort of players are rare. Cooper did not see the potential Robins saw. Robins was a long term manager Cooper declined even his contract and wax a quick fix merchant with his loans.
Players that needed 18 months were no use to him. [Post edited 4 Feb 21:28]
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“Players that needed 18 months were of no use to him” - the average tenure of a championship manager isn’t that long these days so it’s easy to see why managers want the finished product. There are currently only 4 managers in the Championship who’ve been with the club for longer than 18 months.
Cooper was given a brief and that was promotion while the club still had parachute payments coming in, unfortunately he wasn’t able to deliver and left. Maybe he feels he was left down by the powers that were in charge at the time.
You keep going on about this, but unless you’re on the inside you don’t know what happened. Maybe Cooper saw enough in training to make his mind up. If Brighton had thought he was a £20m plus player why did they sell him so cheaply? [Post edited 4 Feb 22:28]
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 22:30 - Feb 4 with 521 views | Whiterockin |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 22:26 - Feb 4 by majorraglan |
“Players that needed 18 months were of no use to him” - the average tenure of a championship manager isn’t that long these days so it’s easy to see why managers want the finished product. There are currently only 4 managers in the Championship who’ve been with the club for longer than 18 months.
Cooper was given a brief and that was promotion while the club still had parachute payments coming in, unfortunately he wasn’t able to deliver and left. Maybe he feels he was left down by the powers that were in charge at the time.
You keep going on about this, but unless you’re on the inside you don’t know what happened. Maybe Cooper saw enough in training to make his mind up. If Brighton had thought he was a £20m plus player why did they sell him so cheaply? [Post edited 4 Feb 22:28]
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Coventry took a chance and got lucky, we have done it ourselves in the past. It's no big deal we move on. | | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 23:36 - Feb 4 with 461 views | STID2017 |
Why do you always defend the undefenable and oppose the majority ( common sense ) view on virtually any topic ?
Coleman is 100% culpable and needs to go, along with Luke Williams
The way we are going we will be watching League One in a less than half filled stadium next season |  |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 12:39 - Feb 5 with 299 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 23:36 - Feb 4 by STID2017 |
Why do you always defend the undefenable and oppose the majority ( common sense ) view on virtually any topic ?
Coleman is 100% culpable and needs to go, along with Luke Williams
The way we are going we will be watching League One in a less than half filled stadium next season |
Fans are in a constant state of " everyone must be sacked".At some point you need to drop an hour and build.
Coleman and co tick all the boxes.
a) in Swansea
b) investing cash
c) investing their own cash and time
d) looking to engage and communicate with the fans
No doubt he has to do better. It is as good as it gets. The next is build and improve. Williams does not look as he is improving players and needs improvements fast . Selling Abdullai was not a good sign.
Coventry got lucky. The harder they work the luckier they get. They had better judgement. Recruitment and academy have provided good players and managers have ditched or sold them mostly cheaply. Whittaker Al Hamadi Joseph Benda Abdullai all doing well after being dispatched. Lowe was real good for Swansea but sent away as " unsuitable" for the playing style. Eom fits but does not produce any thing like what Lowe did
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 13:50 - Feb 5 with 245 views | QJumpingJack |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 12:39 - Feb 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Fans are in a constant state of " everyone must be sacked".At some point you need to drop an hour and build.
Coleman and co tick all the boxes.
a) in Swansea
b) investing cash
c) investing their own cash and time
d) looking to engage and communicate with the fans
No doubt he has to do better. It is as good as it gets. The next is build and improve. Williams does not look as he is improving players and needs improvements fast . Selling Abdullai was not a good sign.
Coventry got lucky. The harder they work the luckier they get. They had better judgement. Recruitment and academy have provided good players and managers have ditched or sold them mostly cheaply. Whittaker Al Hamadi Joseph Benda Abdullai all doing well after being dispatched. Lowe was real good for Swansea but sent away as " unsuitable" for the playing style. Eom fits but does not produce any thing like what Lowe did
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d) - really? there is no evidence for you to post this. Trevor Birch was the best in terms of communication. | | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 14:38 - Feb 5 with 194 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 13:50 - Feb 5 by QJumpingJack |
d) - really? there is no evidence for you to post this. Trevor Birch was the best in terms of communication. |
He handed the clubs resources over the Black Lives Matter without doing any checks about what they stood for it seems .
Fans work on perception. Birch is loved by everyone. That round he bough was shrewd work to be fair. | |
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| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 14:51 - Feb 5 with 173 views | QJumpingJack |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 14:38 - Feb 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He handed the clubs resources over the Black Lives Matter without doing any checks about what they stood for it seems .
Fans work on perception. Birch is loved by everyone. That round he bough was shrewd work to be fair. |
lets keep politics out of this thread please. | | | |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 14:52 - Feb 5 with 173 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Ryan Bennett (2012) all over again on 13:50 - Feb 5 by QJumpingJack |
d) - really? there is no evidence for you to post this. Trevor Birch was the best in terms of communication. |
He forgot a rather important box that definitely needs ticking...CAPABILITY. Oh another one...KNOW-HOW. Lets go for another...EXPERIENCE.
Those boxes are not ticked and as long as Coleman tries to do too much by himself they never will be.
Why people bother replying to his trust nonsense is beyond me, I mean I am a persistent, stubborn old cus and even I gave up. He takes the facts and rearranges them to match his own narrative. | | | |
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