| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go 06:50 - Jan 28 with 3193 views | SwansIndependent |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:01 - Jan 28 with 2490 views | onehunglow |
He handed in a transfer request two days before Norwich game ,yet selected to play,whilst Darlong forced to sit on a coach to Soton,with no intention of him being played
If so,he’s worse than I thought | |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:30 - Jan 28 with 2360 views | PawelAbbott |
How can he announce that he is going before any deal is agreed?
He has 6 days left to arrange something or he is going to look a bit stupid | | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:45 - Jan 28 with 2238 views | union_jack |
I’m a bit confused. The article says that any incoming money from any of our player transactions can’t be used to offset P&S this season. Am I right! That means we are in the same position if we offload or not until the summer meaning any player sales can’t be used until then or risk points deductions. Surely I’ve misunderstood that?! |  |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:57 - Jan 28 with 2147 views | raynor94 |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:45 - Jan 28 by union_jack |
I’m a bit confused. The article says that any incoming money from any of our player transactions can’t be used to offset P&S this season. Am I right! That means we are in the same position if we offload or not until the summer meaning any player sales can’t be used until then or risk points deductions. Surely I’ve misunderstood that?! |
Yet all other teams around us are spending money, if Grimes does go and we don't replace him with at least a championship quality player, not loans, we really are opening the trapdoor.
Coleman is making me feel like he's a secret agent for Cardiff City |  |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:12 - Jan 28 with 2050 views | dobjack2 |
I think that it is the bigger picture that has shocked fans:
The tactical mess that Luke Williams has created with players going backwards and results and performances being shocking; the financial position that we appear unable to afford to remove Williams or strengthen the squad; the mess with Darling's contract going to run down; Williams and the WBA debacle; the state of the pitch and the captain who up until this point had appeared settled wanting a move in the January window. There are probably other things as well.
It all points to a club in turmoil on and off the pitch. The type of perfect storm that gets a club relegated.
Fans can see the mess on the pitch and are starting to see that there is an equally big mess off the pitch as well. They are wondering how we can get to around 50 points and are there 3 worse teams than us this season, when not so long ago, they were looking that with the recruitment that Williams alluded to we could possibly push on towards the top 6. | | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:39 - Jan 28 with 1944 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:45 - Jan 28 by union_jack |
I’m a bit confused. The article says that any incoming money from any of our player transactions can’t be used to offset P&S this season. Am I right! That means we are in the same position if we offload or not until the summer meaning any player sales can’t be used until then or risk points deductions. Surely I’ve misunderstood that?! |
I don’t read it like that. Any money coming in can always be offset against P&S but are yiu regerring to the Luke Williams comment ? Because that states he cannot be sacked due to profit and sustainability. As at the moment we don’t have the money. |  |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:44 - Jan 28 with 1911 views | vetchonian |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:45 - Jan 28 by union_jack |
I’m a bit confused. The article says that any incoming money from any of our player transactions can’t be used to offset P&S this season. Am I right! That means we are in the same position if we offload or not until the summer meaning any player sales can’t be used until then or risk points deductions. Surely I’ve misunderstood that?! |
I am confused also as our financial year runs feom August to July though we curtailed it last year shutting off in June
Therfore the cost cutting already performed by Coleman and also monies from this transfer window should be in this year's accounts along with the cost saving if Grimes wages from whenever he goes until July. Depending on how the incoming fees are dealt with if there are staged payments we shoukd see the benefit in this years P and L unless I'm missing something ?
Can you help Keith? | |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:53 - Jan 28 with 1868 views | union_jack |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:12 - Jan 28 by dobjack2 |
I think that it is the bigger picture that has shocked fans:
The tactical mess that Luke Williams has created with players going backwards and results and performances being shocking; the financial position that we appear unable to afford to remove Williams or strengthen the squad; the mess with Darling's contract going to run down; Williams and the WBA debacle; the state of the pitch and the captain who up until this point had appeared settled wanting a move in the January window. There are probably other things as well.
It all points to a club in turmoil on and off the pitch. The type of perfect storm that gets a club relegated.
Fans can see the mess on the pitch and are starting to see that there is an equally big mess off the pitch as well. They are wondering how we can get to around 50 points and are there 3 worse teams than us this season, when not so long ago, they were looking that with the recruitment that Williams alluded to we could possibly push on towards the top 6. |
The pitch
On the pitch
Off the pitch
As you rightly say, the perfect storm! | |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:55 - Jan 28 with 1865 views | PawelAbbott |
If he has told the team after the game on Saturday that he is going, before any deal is done. Then it sounds more like he has had enough of Williams!!!
After the run of results that we've had and now 2 senior players, Grimes and Darling, deciding to go. Then the club has to act quickly to stop the rot, listen to the players and get Williams out | | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:56 - Jan 28 with 1851 views | union_jack |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:44 - Jan 28 by vetchonian |
I am confused also as our financial year runs feom August to July though we curtailed it last year shutting off in June
Therfore the cost cutting already performed by Coleman and also monies from this transfer window should be in this year's accounts along with the cost saving if Grimes wages from whenever he goes until July. Depending on how the incoming fees are dealt with if there are staged payments we shoukd see the benefit in this years P and L unless I'm missing something ?
Can you help Keith? |
Yes, the article I think said that monies received can’t go towards improving P&S situation but any money we spend e.g. to sack LW does. | |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 23:03 - Jan 28 with 1361 views | DJack |
Brutal...  |  |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 23:14 - Jan 28 with 1340 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:56 - Jan 28 by union_jack |
Yes, the article I think said that monies received can’t go towards improving P&S situation but any money we spend e.g. to sack LW does. |
Not sure it implied that. | |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 23:58 - Jan 28 with 1248 views | owainglyndwr |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 23:14 - Jan 28 by KeithHaynes |
Not sure it implied that. |
Has Grimes been the problem 🤔, should of been stripped of his captaincy,
No respect captain of a club and navigating a move .
Did Coventry approach him without the Swans approval .
Just beat them on Saturday and I hope the Jack's make this the most uncomfortable games in years |  | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 00:50 - Jan 29 with 1208 views | Robbie |
Rumours suggest Andy Robinson stalled on his move to Leeds Utd subject to their potential chance of playing in a higher Division , waiting for their Final results it was alleged .
Coventry for Grimes or maybe Dalling to The Blades , potential for a far higher standard .
Add on wages , kiss the badge and move on to the better payer , loyalty a smokescreen .
Footballers move for the money , some stay loyal , not many these days sadly . | | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:15 - Jan 29 with 981 views | Whiterockin |
It will be interesting to see if Lampard makes Grimes captain. |  | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:37 - Jan 29 with 931 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:12 - Jan 28 by dobjack2 |
I think that it is the bigger picture that has shocked fans:
The tactical mess that Luke Williams has created with players going backwards and results and performances being shocking; the financial position that we appear unable to afford to remove Williams or strengthen the squad; the mess with Darling's contract going to run down; Williams and the WBA debacle; the state of the pitch and the captain who up until this point had appeared settled wanting a move in the January window. There are probably other things as well.
It all points to a club in turmoil on and off the pitch. The type of perfect storm that gets a club relegated.
Fans can see the mess on the pitch and are starting to see that there is an equally big mess off the pitch as well. They are wondering how we can get to around 50 points and are there 3 worse teams than us this season, when not so long ago, they were looking that with the recruitment that Williams alluded to we could possibly push on towards the top 6. |
After Williams s comment that "the team lost the will to compete" I stated that something drastic and decisive HAD to happen. This has occured. There must have been a lot of anger and frustration in the camp and the Captain was at the middle of it. He had to be stripped of the captaincy immediately.
Action has been taken and those not committed have to be moved on. The problem was not if talent but of commitment in Saturdays surrender. Darling and Grimes need to be removed. There is no way back. |  |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:41 - Jan 29 with 917 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:37 - Jan 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
After Williams s comment that "the team lost the will to compete" I stated that something drastic and decisive HAD to happen. This has occured. There must have been a lot of anger and frustration in the camp and the Captain was at the middle of it. He had to be stripped of the captaincy immediately.
Action has been taken and those not committed have to be moved on. The problem was not if talent but of commitment in Saturdays surrender. Darling and Grimes need to be removed. There is no way back. |
So you don't believe that it is Grimes decision to leave and accept a larger contract, possibly his last decent one. | | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:53 - Jan 29 with 882 views | raynor94 |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:37 - Jan 29 by ReslovenSwan1 |
After Williams s comment that "the team lost the will to compete" I stated that something drastic and decisive HAD to happen. This has occured. There must have been a lot of anger and frustration in the camp and the Captain was at the middle of it. He had to be stripped of the captaincy immediately.
Action has been taken and those not committed have to be moved on. The problem was not if talent but of commitment in Saturdays surrender. Darling and Grimes need to be removed. There is no way back. |
Darling wasn't in Saturday's "surrender" and has never given less than 100%, and should have been made captain a long time ago | |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:58 - Jan 29 with 871 views | Dr_Winston |
Let's face it, despite wearing the armband for years Grimes has never been the "Captain" of the team in any meaningful sense. Andre Ayew led the team by example on the pitch from 2019 to 2021. Flynn Downes showed him up for a season, and since then we've been adrift. |  |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:14 - Jan 29 with 832 views | pete |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:53 - Jan 29 by raynor94 |
Darling wasn't in Saturday's "surrender" and has never given less than 100%, and should have been made captain a long time ago |
agree Ray but unfortunatly i think that ship has sailed he will leave im sorry to say was hoping a last ditch offer from the board might have done the deal but with clubs near the top interested in a cut price deal we will take the money now, but we need replacements for him and our cexcaptain along with a couple of other guys in to improve the first team thats at least 4 or 5 to come in cannot seeit can you? | | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:43 - Jan 29 with 787 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 08:53 - Jan 29 by raynor94 |
Darling wasn't in Saturday's "surrender" and has never given less than 100%, and should have been made captain a long time ago |
This just highlights how bad recruitment has been. We should have ‘natural leaders’ within the team, regardless of who is captain. Darling would be the logical choice if he was staying.
Darling - leaving this week or this summer
Allen - probably going this summer and doesn’t play full games
Franco - natural leader I’d say, but you’d want someone with near perfect English
Cabango? | | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:56 - Jan 29 with 765 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:43 - Jan 29 by jack247 |
This just highlights how bad recruitment has been. We should have ‘natural leaders’ within the team, regardless of who is captain. Darling would be the logical choice if he was staying.
Darling - leaving this week or this summer
Allen - probably going this summer and doesn’t play full games
Franco - natural leader I’d say, but you’d want someone with near perfect English
Cabango? |
Franco should be the one we really nurture .
He could be captain but I’d suggest Cabango ,as I did about a year ago. The lad has been forked around by Martin ,been played out of position and been hung out to dry by the current “ c9oaxh”
He is a good young pro and has pride in his job
Franco,not having to cover for Grims will flourish ,if we support him.
That is a mute point
Time for this new ownership to step us or we will surely sink
Crucial we eject Williams though
As I say ,we need a reboot | |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:10 - Jan 29 with 733 views | jack247 |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 09:56 - Jan 29 by onehunglow |
Franco should be the one we really nurture .
He could be captain but I’d suggest Cabango ,as I did about a year ago. The lad has been forked around by Martin ,been played out of position and been hung out to dry by the current “ c9oaxh”
He is a good young pro and has pride in his job
Franco,not having to cover for Grims will flourish ,if we support him.
That is a mute point
Time for this new ownership to step us or we will surely sink
Crucial we eject Williams though
As I say ,we need a reboot |
I can’t disagree with any of that.
Franco would be my choice if he was British. Plays like a leader. I think I’d go for Cabango though.
And yes, I’d be using some of the money on Williams.
Coleman has a real chance to make a name for himself here. Will he take it? | | | |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:15 - Jan 29 with 728 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:10 - Jan 29 by jack247 |
I can’t disagree with any of that.
Franco would be my choice if he was British. Plays like a leader. I think I’d go for Cabango though.
And yes, I’d be using some of the money on Williams.
Coleman has a real chance to make a name for himself here. Will he take it? |
It’s time he did 247
This is so vital moment in time for us ,I can’t tell you.
A chance to get back to what we were although removing Williams is key to that
We can do this | |
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| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 20:10 - Jan 29 with 409 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City ‘fans’ so shocked they can’t handle Grimes leaving : He is go on 10:15 - Jan 29 by onehunglow |
It’s time he did 247
This is so vital moment in time for us ,I can’t tell you.
A chance to get back to what we were although removing Williams is key to that
We can do this |
A director of football might be the better way. He theoretically could demand a change of playing style and tactics and Williams can accept it or reject it.
The experienced new man could help and direct this manager to more effective tactics.
If Williams was asked to step aside he would be put on gardening leave which presumably would not affect PSR as it is his monthly salary not the whole remaining two and a half years. | |
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