| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 13:23 - Jan 21 with 833 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 07:13 - Jan 21 by Dr_Winston |
They spent 14 years whinging that previous Governments didn't spend enough. They also spent the entire pandemic complaining that Government measures weren't tough or long lasting enough.
Their first acts in Government (other than jailing people longer for social media posts than some get for rape) were to raise taxes on employment and start driving non-dom taxpayers abroad. 9500 millionaires are expected to leave the UK this year. Mobile wealth is upping sticks, and it'll be the working classes who are left having to cover the shortfall.
For reference, someone earning £200k will pay roughly £82k in tax annually. It would take seventeen people earning the average UK salary of £37k to replace one of them, yet apparently they're parasites who need to be taxed more according to people who think like Rachel from Customer Services. [Post edited 21 Jan 17:15]
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Trickle down rarely works.
Tax the rich i say, we need better public services paid for. |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 13:47 - Jan 21 with 814 views | Dr_Winston |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 13:23 - Jan 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Trickle down rarely works.
Tax the rich i say, we need better public services paid for. |
If this had anything to do with trickle down you might have a point. But is isn't, so you don't.
Squeeze mobile wealth hard enough and it will relocate. Then taxes on poor people need to be raised to pay for these services. It's a basic economic fact that has played out plenty of times, including in this country. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 14:18 - Jan 21 with 784 views | raynor94 |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 13:23 - Jan 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Trickle down rarely works.
Tax the rich i say, we need better public services paid for. |
The policy of envy never works |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 15:08 - Jan 21 with 751 views | AnotherJohn |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 13:23 - Jan 21 by Kilkennyjack |
Trickle down rarely works.
Tax the rich i say, we need better public services paid for. |
The Republic of Ireland is a prime example. GDP has risen because of the decision of certain multi-national to locate there, but ordinary people still struggle to get access to affordable housing and healthcare. Of course, the RoI government knows that if it taxes the rich - in the shape of the corporations - excessively they will re-locate. It was the low tax regime that attracted them. If the EU tightens the rules on corporation tax and fair competition further then Ireland will struggle. Trump is also taking an interest and the move of US companies to Ireland for the tax advantages, and is muttering about tariffs. |  | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 16:55 - Jan 21 with 722 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 15:08 - Jan 21 by AnotherJohn |
The Republic of Ireland is a prime example. GDP has risen because of the decision of certain multi-national to locate there, but ordinary people still struggle to get access to affordable housing and healthcare. Of course, the RoI government knows that if it taxes the rich - in the shape of the corporations - excessively they will re-locate. It was the low tax regime that attracted them. If the EU tightens the rules on corporation tax and fair competition further then Ireland will struggle. Trump is also taking an interest and the move of US companies to Ireland for the tax advantages, and is muttering about tariffs. |
I have tried explaining that the RoI is basically a tax haven for corporate greed and many millions in tax that should be paid here gp to the RoI. All of that is made possible by the EU's rules and thought tye have tried to change those tax rules, the tax haven members keep vetoing it, for obvious reasons.
Where Kilky is right though, trickle down doesn't work, it just doesn;t happen. | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 13:34 - Jan 22 with 661 views | controversial_jack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 16:55 - Jan 21 by SullutaCreturned |
I have tried explaining that the RoI is basically a tax haven for corporate greed and many millions in tax that should be paid here gp to the RoI. All of that is made possible by the EU's rules and thought tye have tried to change those tax rules, the tax haven members keep vetoing it, for obvious reasons.
Where Kilky is right though, trickle down doesn't work, it just doesn;t happen. |
The gap between rich and poor has never been greater, so what we have is trickle up | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:07 - Jan 22 with 626 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 16:55 - Jan 21 by SullutaCreturned |
I have tried explaining that the RoI is basically a tax haven for corporate greed and many millions in tax that should be paid here gp to the RoI. All of that is made possible by the EU's rules and thought tye have tried to change those tax rules, the tax haven members keep vetoing it, for obvious reasons.
Where Kilky is right though, trickle down doesn't work, it just doesn;t happen. |
I was right for once ? … tidy. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:18 - Jan 22 with 621 views | Dr_Winston |
I am fairly confident that the current gap between rich and poor is significantly smaller than it was when, say, William the Conqueror was worth the equivalent of £230bn and the local serfs were shitting into their local streams, or perhaps during the Victorian era when 10 year olds were being sent up chimneys for a living.
This nonsense is easy enough to say on social media and there's plenty of people out there who will believe it, but in reality it doesn't stand up to more than about 20/30 seconds of actual investigation. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:38 - Jan 22 with 611 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:18 - Jan 22 by Dr_Winston |
I am fairly confident that the current gap between rich and poor is significantly smaller than it was when, say, William the Conqueror was worth the equivalent of £230bn and the local serfs were shitting into their local streams, or perhaps during the Victorian era when 10 year olds were being sent up chimneys for a living.
This nonsense is easy enough to say on social media and there's plenty of people out there who will believe it, but in reality it doesn't stand up to more than about 20/30 seconds of actual investigation. |
Well nobody cares about Willy mun
Between 2011 and 2019, the average UK household’s wealth grew by about £4,000, according to new analysis of official statistics that we at the Fairness Foundation commissioned recently. Those in the poorest 10% of households continue to have no wealth at all – many are in debt. By contrast, the average person in the top 10% of households was £280,000 wealthier over this period.
It’s a stark contrast and we found that, overall, the wealth gap in the UK has grown by 50% over these eight years.
And thats the rub see …. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:47 - Jan 22 with 604 views | Dr_Winston |
Yes, people pushing the "the gap between rich and poor has never been bigger!!" guff tend not to care about fairly obvious evidence that they're talking total bollocks. Tell us something that we don't already know. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 17:28 - Jan 27 with 509 views | Flashberryjack |
That's absolutely crazy !!!! |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 18:26 - Jan 27 with 473 views | controversial_jack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:47 - Jan 22 by Dr_Winston |
Yes, people pushing the "the gap between rich and poor has never been bigger!!" guff tend not to care about fairly obvious evidence that they're talking total bollocks. Tell us something that we don't already know. |
There's no pushing it, it's fact | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 08:06 - Feb 1 with 379 views | AnotherJohn |
One issue that is emerging as important is the number of dependents accompanying low-income immigrant workers. This was picked up in the CPS report By Robert Jenrick and Karl Williams that reanalysed ONS figures (linked in a past post), and several newspapers are now reporting an example given by Williams. In the first six months of 2024, the Home Office issued 1,063 health and care visas to workers from Zimbabwe. They brought with them 10,670 dependents, amounting in Williams' words to "10 dependants for every, likely minimum wage, social care worker". | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 08:18 - Feb 1 with 353 views | Boundy |
That can't be true, its the Daily Mail. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 08:25 - Feb 1 with 351 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:07 - Jan 22 by Kilkennyjack |
I was right for once ? … tidy. |
Yes trickle down has not improved the life of the poor and homeless in the ROI. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 09:50 - Feb 1 with 332 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:18 - Jan 22 by Dr_Winston |
I am fairly confident that the current gap between rich and poor is significantly smaller than it was when, say, William the Conqueror was worth the equivalent of £230bn and the local serfs were shitting into their local streams, or perhaps during the Victorian era when 10 year olds were being sent up chimneys for a living.
This nonsense is easy enough to say on social media and there's plenty of people out there who will believe it, but in reality it doesn't stand up to more than about 20/30 seconds of actual investigation. |
The standard of living was improved dramatically following the arrival of William the conqueror though. Apart from those who were killed. |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 09:01 - Feb 2 with 249 views | pencoedjack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 07:07 - Jan 21 by Dr_Winston |
Pension funds mostly.
Don't tell me that you're one of those "Governments only owe money to each other!" idiots?  |
I think you know the answer to your question Dr. |  | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 17:19 - Feb 2 with 180 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 09:50 - Feb 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The standard of living was improved dramatically following the arrival of William the conqueror though. Apart from those who were killed. |
Those things invested tax for the purpose of freeing Jerusalem from the non Christian hoards.
UK is is fantastically wealthy. I was trying as liking to be an 80 year old complaining about winter fuel allowance cut and he'd difficult life. She owns a £400k house in a good area.
Every house you can see out of your bedroom window on £200k +. They go on for miles and miles. |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 17:21 - Feb 2 with 179 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:43 - Jan 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately human rights lawyers prevent quick decisions. Even foriegn criminals convicted of serious crimes can't be deported to their countries. All this paid for by legal aid and tax payers having to put then in expensive hotels. |
It is a racket for sure. Lawyers hotels security firms all rely on the smugglers delivering their product to our shores with the help of HM Coast guard. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 07:24 - Feb 3 with 145 views | Dr_Winston |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 09:50 - Feb 1 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
The standard of living was improved dramatically following the arrival of William the conqueror though. Apart from those who were killed. |
Actually it took the Black Death to really raise the standard of living. Those who survived could charge greater prices for their services.
Basic economics. Increase demand or reduce supply, and prices rise. Do the opposite and both businesses and labour become poorer.
Now consider the impact of 10m additional bodies into the Labour market. And this is also part of the problem caused by the EU's freedom of movement in addition to migration from elsewhere. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 09:39 - Feb 3 with 92 views | Baptist |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:43 - Jan 21 by felixstowe_jack |
Unfortunately human rights lawyers prevent quick decisions. Even foriegn criminals convicted of serious crimes can't be deported to their countries. All this paid for by legal aid and tax payers having to put then in expensive hotels. |
Unfortunately human rights laws are there to protect us all - from government overreach, tyrrany and general bad behaviour/abuse of power...
Something it would behove us all to remember sometimes !! |  | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 09:41 - Feb 3 with 90 views | Baptist |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 13:47 - Jan 21 by Dr_Winston |
If this had anything to do with trickle down you might have a point. But is isn't, so you don't.
Squeeze mobile wealth hard enough and it will relocate. Then taxes on poor people need to be raised to pay for these services. It's a basic economic fact that has played out plenty of times, including in this country. |
"Squeeze mobile wealth hard enough and it will relocate."
A well-trodden and conveniently used myth. I suggest you do some (proper) research... | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 09:43 - Feb 3 with 87 views | Baptist |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:18 - Jan 22 by Dr_Winston |
I am fairly confident that the current gap between rich and poor is significantly smaller than it was when, say, William the Conqueror was worth the equivalent of £230bn and the local serfs were shitting into their local streams, or perhaps during the Victorian era when 10 year olds were being sent up chimneys for a living.
This nonsense is easy enough to say on social media and there's plenty of people out there who will believe it, but in reality it doesn't stand up to more than about 20/30 seconds of actual investigation. |
William The Conqueror ?
Seriously ?   | | | |
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