| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 11:42 - Jan 19 with 898 views | Boundy |
Because we have dolts waving placards " welcome" ? |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:06 - Jan 19 with 879 views | AnotherJohn |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 11:42 - Jan 19 by Boundy |
Because we have dolts waving placards " welcome" ? |
There is an interesting section on "the immigration lobby". Worth reading the report (downloadable pdf). | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:19 - Jan 19 with 863 views | majorraglan |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 11:42 - Jan 19 by Boundy |
Because we have dolts waving placards " welcome" ? |
Big businesses are the main and most influential drivers. | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 15:19 - Jan 19 with 811 views | Kilkennyjack |
It suits certain right wing politicians, like Trump in the States, to keep this problem going because it guarantees then votes.
They want to cry about it but they dont care enough to fix it.
Fast processing is essential, then they can feck off home or work.
Currently these men are not allowed to work and the processing takes months.
This could have been paid for with the £300 million handed to Rwanda for nothing.
But johnson thought it was funny …so thats ok then … |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 16:26 - Jan 19 with 761 views | onehunglow |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 15:19 - Jan 19 by Kilkennyjack |
It suits certain right wing politicians, like Trump in the States, to keep this problem going because it guarantees then votes.
They want to cry about it but they dont care enough to fix it.
Fast processing is essential, then they can feck off home or work.
Currently these men are not allowed to work and the processing takes months.
This could have been paid for with the £300 million handed to Rwanda for nothing.
But johnson thought it was funny …so thats ok then … |
Right winger are supposed to be all about stopping immigration .
The Tories weren’t ,but there again,they aren’t right wing
Nobody is | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 19:46 - Jan 19 with 691 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 15:19 - Jan 19 by Kilkennyjack |
It suits certain right wing politicians, like Trump in the States, to keep this problem going because it guarantees then votes.
They want to cry about it but they dont care enough to fix it.
Fast processing is essential, then they can feck off home or work.
Currently these men are not allowed to work and the processing takes months.
This could have been paid for with the £300 million handed to Rwanda for nothing.
But johnson thought it was funny …so thats ok then … |
300 million wouldn't get anywhere near what is needed to do what you suggest. I do agree though, fast processing would be a much better way to help start the process.
Our politicians are hamstrung by their own uneptitude and fear though, they don't listen to the majority, they listen to their "special advisors" (people like Cummings) and the chattering classes who don't have to live with the problems caused by uncontrolled immigration.
The Overton window has shrunk, there are many things we are not allowed to debate, not just in politics. On this website, on whatsapp groups, the people in charge won't allow true freedom of speech anymore because there's always someone looking to be upset and insulted. The government is worse of all. The government is worse of all, dare to suggest that uncontrolled immigration is a genuine problem and you are usually decried as a racist. Those people always quick to assume that when you talk about immigration it is always about black people. They cannot see the bigger picture, or they refuse to.
The last time I saw an estimate it was that there's upwards of one million illegals in this country, it's a tad more than 300 quid each to sort them out, it'd probably cost more than that just to track some of them down. | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 19:52 - Jan 19 with 685 views | Dr_Winston |
Because huge swathes of the civil service, legal profession and governing classes aren't affected by it. If they were it would stop quickly. |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 07:50 - Jan 20 with 603 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 19:46 - Jan 19 by SullutaCreturned |
300 million wouldn't get anywhere near what is needed to do what you suggest. I do agree though, fast processing would be a much better way to help start the process.
Our politicians are hamstrung by their own uneptitude and fear though, they don't listen to the majority, they listen to their "special advisors" (people like Cummings) and the chattering classes who don't have to live with the problems caused by uncontrolled immigration.
The Overton window has shrunk, there are many things we are not allowed to debate, not just in politics. On this website, on whatsapp groups, the people in charge won't allow true freedom of speech anymore because there's always someone looking to be upset and insulted. The government is worse of all. The government is worse of all, dare to suggest that uncontrolled immigration is a genuine problem and you are usually decried as a racist. Those people always quick to assume that when you talk about immigration it is always about black people. They cannot see the bigger picture, or they refuse to.
The last time I saw an estimate it was that there's upwards of one million illegals in this country, it's a tad more than 300 quid each to sort them out, it'd probably cost more than that just to track some of them down. |
I was trying to say the money could have gone towards sorting it rather than spaffed in Rwanda. My bad - i was not meaning to suggest that money would fix the whole thing.
I have never had any issues with free speech on this website. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 10:51 - Jan 20 with 554 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 15:19 - Jan 19 by Kilkennyjack |
It suits certain right wing politicians, like Trump in the States, to keep this problem going because it guarantees then votes.
They want to cry about it but they dont care enough to fix it.
Fast processing is essential, then they can feck off home or work.
Currently these men are not allowed to work and the processing takes months.
This could have been paid for with the £300 million handed to Rwanda for nothing.
But johnson thought it was funny …so thats ok then … |
You say “fast processing” as if that’s a simple thing to achieve. But how do you process thousands and thousands of people quickly when many of them have thrown their identity papers into the English Channel and are claiming to be 12 year old children when they clearly aren’t? We have no idea who they are, where they’ve come from, their previous history. How do you process that? |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 11:05 - Jan 20 with 548 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:19 - Jan 19 by majorraglan |
Big businesses are the main and most influential drivers. |
Raising the population supposedly “grows the economy” which as we know is the governments number one priority so they have no interest in stopping millions of people coming here from god knows where. As long as they get their 0.1% of growth they don’t care about the driving down of wages, increased pressure on vital services, increase in sexual crimes etc. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 11:55 - Jan 20 with 513 views | onehunglow |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 11:05 - Jan 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Raising the population supposedly “grows the economy” which as we know is the governments number one priority so they have no interest in stopping millions of people coming here from god knows where. As long as they get their 0.1% of growth they don’t care about the driving down of wages, increased pressure on vital services, increase in sexual crimes etc. |
Raise the population puts our current resources under greater strain
Pretty obvious | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:15 - Jan 20 with 507 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 10:51 - Jan 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
You say “fast processing” as if that’s a simple thing to achieve. But how do you process thousands and thousands of people quickly when many of them have thrown their identity papers into the English Channel and are claiming to be 12 year old children when they clearly aren’t? We have no idea who they are, where they’ve come from, their previous history. How do you process that? |
Well if you dont process them them they get to stay.
Yes will take resources, but thats money well spent compared to the alternative.
Lets see how Trump gets on rounding the illegals up in the States.
More expensive than promptly processing them.
And will it even work ? | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:27 - Jan 20 with 488 views | onehunglow |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:15 - Jan 20 by Kilkennyjack |
Well if you dont process them them they get to stay.
Yes will take resources, but thats money well spent compared to the alternative.
Lets see how Trump gets on rounding the illegals up in the States.
More expensive than promptly processing them.
And will it even work ? |
CN yiu imagine how his inauguration is going to pan out
Car crash television | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 17:14 - Jan 20 with 395 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 11:05 - Jan 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Raising the population supposedly “grows the economy” which as we know is the governments number one priority so they have no interest in stopping millions of people coming here from god knows where. As long as they get their 0.1% of growth they don’t care about the driving down of wages, increased pressure on vital services, increase in sexual crimes etc. |
I think the sooner politicians step away from the idea of eternal growth the better because it just isn't possible.
Surely we need debt to be brought under control and have a stable economy with very little variance, say +/- 2% as a norm, as long as there's enough money to service the public sector and pay any debt? | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 18:29 - Jan 20 with 363 views | Dr_Winston |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 17:14 - Jan 20 by SullutaCreturned |
I think the sooner politicians step away from the idea of eternal growth the better because it just isn't possible.
Surely we need debt to be brought under control and have a stable economy with very little variance, say +/- 2% as a norm, as long as there's enough money to service the public sector and pay any debt? |
Interest payments on the National Debt now comprise a very significant chunk of annual Goverment expenditure. Around £100bn a year. Well over half of the NHS budget. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:26 - Jan 20 with 323 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 18:29 - Jan 20 by Dr_Winston |
Interest payments on the National Debt now comprise a very significant chunk of annual Goverment expenditure. Around £100bn a year. Well over half of the NHS budget. |
Exactly, we cannot keep borrowing and I'm sure Labour were very critical of Tory borrowing yet despite raising taxes she has borrowed even more than she said.
The only way to change this cycle is to get a bit radical. How about stopping foreign aid for 10 years and using it to pay down debt? Except we'd have to do that for about 25 years as well as making the interest payments, for it to work. | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:31 - Jan 20 with 318 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:26 - Jan 20 by SullutaCreturned |
Exactly, we cannot keep borrowing and I'm sure Labour were very critical of Tory borrowing yet despite raising taxes she has borrowed even more than she said.
The only way to change this cycle is to get a bit radical. How about stopping foreign aid for 10 years and using it to pay down debt? Except we'd have to do that for about 25 years as well as making the interest payments, for it to work. |
Labour spent 14 years criticising the previous governments for not spending enough. Now they are moaning there’s no money left. They can’t have it both ways.
Radical is the right word. We need new ideas, bravery and innovation. Not another decade of this day to day managed decline we’ve had for the last 30 years. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:34 - Jan 20 with 315 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:31 - Jan 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Labour spent 14 years criticising the previous governments for not spending enough. Now they are moaning there’s no money left. They can’t have it both ways.
Radical is the right word. We need new ideas, bravery and innovation. Not another decade of this day to day managed decline we’ve had for the last 30 years. |
So then, my foreign aid idea?  | | | |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:37 - Jan 20 with 307 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:34 - Jan 20 by SullutaCreturned |
So then, my foreign aid idea? |
It’s the governments primary duty to look after its own people first. It’s all well and good spunking billions at tiny pacific islands in the name of climate change or committing to supporting Ukraine for the next century but it’s a bit of a kick in the balls when they say there’s no money left we’re going to have to tax you til your eyeballs pop. | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:51 - Jan 20 with 298 views | onehunglow |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:31 - Jan 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Labour spent 14 years criticising the previous governments for not spending enough. Now they are moaning there’s no money left. They can’t have it both ways.
Radical is the right word. We need new ideas, bravery and innovation. Not another decade of this day to day managed decline we’ve had for the last 30 years. |
It’s going to wear very soon.
Harold Wilson said the same about Tory misrule then lied to the whole country over decimalisation on telly in a special broadcast
Darling Harold | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:19 - Jan 20 with 279 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 18:29 - Jan 20 by Dr_Winston |
Interest payments on the National Debt now comprise a very significant chunk of annual Goverment expenditure. Around £100bn a year. Well over half of the NHS budget. |
Who is this national debt owed to ? | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 04:16 - Jan 21 with 211 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
British males are lazy and ars smoking dope instead of working . Jobs have to be done on minimum wages and poorly educated Brits cannot be bothered. Foreigners do this work. Cut benefit or cut job vacancies cut immigration.
Theed is also all the students study Yung and working to help pay fees. |  |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 07:07 - Jan 21 with 172 views | Dr_Winston |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 21:19 - Jan 20 by Kilkennyjack |
Who is this national debt owed to ? |
Pension funds mostly.
Don't tell me that you're one of those "Governments only owe money to each other!" idiots? | |
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 07:13 - Jan 21 with 168 views | Dr_Winston |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 20:31 - Jan 20 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Labour spent 14 years criticising the previous governments for not spending enough. Now they are moaning there’s no money left. They can’t have it both ways.
Radical is the right word. We need new ideas, bravery and innovation. Not another decade of this day to day managed decline we’ve had for the last 30 years. |
They spent 14 years whinging that previous Governments didn't spend enough. They also spent the entire pandemic complaining that Government measures weren't tough or long lasting enough.
Their first acts in Government (other than jailing people longer for social media posts than some get for rape) were to raise taxes on employment and start driving non-dom taxpayers abroad. 9500 millionaires are expected to leave the UK this year. Mobile wealth is upping sticks, and it'll be the working classes who are left having to cover the shortfall.
For reference, someone earning £200k will pay roughly £82k in tax annually. It would take seventeen people earning the average UK salary of £37k to replace one of them, yet apparently they're parasites who need to be taxed more according to people who think like Rachel from Customer Services. [Post edited 21 Jan 17:15]
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| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 12:43 - Jan 21 with 96 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Why is it so hard getting immigration numbers down? on 15:19 - Jan 19 by Kilkennyjack |
It suits certain right wing politicians, like Trump in the States, to keep this problem going because it guarantees then votes.
They want to cry about it but they dont care enough to fix it.
Fast processing is essential, then they can feck off home or work.
Currently these men are not allowed to work and the processing takes months.
This could have been paid for with the £300 million handed to Rwanda for nothing.
But johnson thought it was funny …so thats ok then … |
Unfortunately human rights lawyers prevent quick decisions. Even foriegn criminals convicted of serious crimes can't be deported to their countries. All this paid for by legal aid and tax payers having to put then in expensive hotels. | |
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