| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? 16:54 - Jan 18 with 1467 views | KeithHaynes |
I’ve never seen a player go from the heights he was at last season to where he is now after a year of Williams coaching. A shocking decline in standards. |  |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 16:57 - Jan 18 with 1254 views | Whiterockin |
Liverpool deal off then. |  | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 16:57 - Jan 18 with 1253 views | Dr_Winston |
There are far too many forwards who have come here and regressed, or not developed. There is one particular example of one who has gone elsewhere and become a fan's favourite since.
Too many examples to be a coincidence. Williams is incapable of coaching forwards and forward play at this level. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 16:59 - Jan 18 with 1240 views | onehunglow |
I’ve highlighted this Keith
He’s been destroyed
TV camper as get in close . One can almost look into their eyes and souls.
I see ours as lost souls
Ronald a prime example however Eom runs him close |  |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 17:01 - Jan 18 with 1230 views | Swans9 |
Not getting on his back getting caught by a defender after receiving the ball is bad. The lack of tracking back in games should be paid half wages | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 17:06 - Jan 18 with 1202 views | union_jack |
Until the turgid, stagnant, motionless, sleep inducing style we play changes then the likes of Ronald are onto a hiding.
The old adage he couldn’t beat an egg applies to Ronald and Eom. So don’t ask them to do it.
Instead, play a style where they receive the ball at pace. We don’t do that nearly enough and when we do it is almost always overhit.
LW is getting them to play the only way he knows instead of assessing the strength of the players and forming a game plan to suit. Repeat warning - he’s not a good coach. |  |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 17:30 - Jan 18 with 1108 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
He needs some space to operate in, we spend 8 hours passing it around at the back so he never gets an inch to work with, by the time he gets the ball the opposition are fully organised. |  |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 17:39 - Jan 18 with 1067 views | Whiterockin |
Forwards are used to going forward, not checking and passing back. Play the ball into space for them to attack and just watch the difference. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 17:39 - Jan 18 with 1057 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 17:30 - Jan 18 by JACKMANANDBOY |
He needs some space to operate in, we spend 8 hours passing it around at the back so he never gets an inch to work with, by the time he gets the ball the opposition are fully organised. |
Great point. |  |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 18:01 - Jan 18 with 987 views | max936 |
Eom is no better, runs around a lot granted, touch like a elephant and a touch just as bad, after a bright start give us up he's fallen well short.
Mention for Key as well  |  |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 18:19 - Jan 18 with 930 views | onehunglow |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 18:01 - Jan 18 by max936 |
Eom is no better, runs around a lot granted, touch like a elephant and a touch just as bad, after a bright start give us up he's fallen well short.
Mention for Key as well |
Key the worst full ack defender I can remember
Ever
Excruciating and a heart in the mouth player | |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 19:05 - Jan 18 with 801 views | max936 |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 18:19 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
Key the worst full ack defender I can remember
Ever
Excruciating and a heart in the mouth player |
He'd probably agree with you, its obviously clear that he prefers a more forward role decent player in the right position even though he's played full back for most of his professional career if not all. | |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 19:20 - Jan 18 with 754 views | Whiterockin |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 19:05 - Jan 18 by max936 |
He'd probably agree with you, its obviously clear that he prefers a more forward role decent player in the right position even though he's played full back for most of his professional career if not all. |
Key needs to play in front of a back 3 as a wingback. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:02 - Jan 18 with 646 views | RichardO |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 19:20 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
Key needs to play in front of a back 3 as a wingback. |
Did think of saying not so long ago now we have Tymon and Key maybe we should play them as wingbacks with a back three Al La Russell Martin's style but didn't say it because we have no-one to play alongside Darling and Cabango, I thought Grimes was playing well initially more so on the left but as Cardiff put the pressure on he dropped ever deeper in the middle but not offering himself forward in themiddle so the likes of Key and Ronald had no outlet getting caught on the ball. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:08 - Jan 18 with 617 views | jack247 |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 19:20 - Jan 18 by Whiterockin |
Key needs to play in front of a back 3 as a wingback. |
If we had a player like Naughton in his prime, we could quite easily play him as the ‘footballer’ in a back three with wingbacks pushed up, thus solving the Grimes and Key/Tymon problems. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:16 - Jan 18 with 590 views | onehunglow |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:08 - Jan 18 by jack247 |
If we had a player like Naughton in his prime, we could quite easily play him as the ‘footballer’ in a back three with wingbacks pushed up, thus solving the Grimes and Key/Tymon problems. |
Naughton prime
Jeez. | |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:24 - Jan 18 with 552 views | jack247 |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:16 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
Naughton prime
Jeez. |
You’ve never understood Naughton. That’s ok | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:25 - Jan 18 with 545 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:16 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
Naughton prime
Jeez. |
Did you miss the word IF. It is you that decries fans turning on each other after all. |  |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:30 - Jan 18 with 520 views | Whiterockin |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:02 - Jan 18 by RichardO |
Did think of saying not so long ago now we have Tymon and Key maybe we should play them as wingbacks with a back three Al La Russell Martin's style but didn't say it because we have no-one to play alongside Darling and Cabango, I thought Grimes was playing well initially more so on the left but as Cardiff put the pressure on he dropped ever deeper in the middle but not offering himself forward in themiddle so the likes of Key and Ronald had no outlet getting caught on the ball. |
Possibly if Low/another comes in it's the way to go. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:30 - Jan 18 with 518 views | Dr_Winston |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:24 - Jan 18 by jack247 |
You’ve never understood Naughton. That’s ok |
Always been one of his go-to targets.
The Naughton of even twelve months ago was perfect for a back three. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:38 - Jan 18 with 471 views | sons_of_omri |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 19:05 - Jan 18 by max936 |
He'd probably agree with you, its obviously clear that he prefers a more forward role decent player in the right position even though he's played full back for most of his professional career if not all. |
Chambers playing CDM instead of full back seems to have transformed Cardiffs play. Key could do the same for us. He’s far more forward thinking than Grimes and actually carries the ball forward well. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:40 - Jan 18 with 460 views | jack247 |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:30 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
Always been one of his go-to targets.
The Naughton of even twelve months ago was perfect for a back three. |
Freeing the fullbacks up to attack more and absolving Grimes of the defensive responsibility. I agree, he’d have been ideal for it. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:43 - Jan 18 with 434 views | Dr_Winston |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:40 - Jan 18 by jack247 |
Freeing the fullbacks up to attack more and absolving Grimes of the defensive responsibility. I agree, he’d have been ideal for it. |
I'm not sure Grimes has been given defensive responsibility. It's just where he chooses to hang out. Like a favourite Jazz Club. And Williams is either happy with him doing it or is too weak to force him out of there. | |
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| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:50 - Jan 18 with 412 views | jack247 |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:43 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
I'm not sure Grimes has been given defensive responsibility. It's just where he chooses to hang out. Like a favourite Jazz Club. And Williams is either happy with him doing it or is too weak to force him out of there. |
By defensive responsibility, I don’t mean marking runs and challenging for headers. Williams wants him to be the focal point when we pass it out from the back, which means him often being very deep when we’re in possession.
A 30 year old Nsughton could do that job just as well, on top of being a much better defender. I think most of us agree Grimes is more effective when he’s further forward.
Moot point because we probably won’t find another player with Naughtons skillset and intelligence who still has the legs to play that role. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 21:00 - Jan 18 with 358 views | RichardO |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 20:30 - Jan 18 by Dr_Winston |
Always been one of his go-to targets.
The Naughton of even twelve months ago was perfect for a back three. |
Don't think Naughton of 12 months ago would be perfect in a back three even his experience would not have made up for his lack of pace he as been targeted as far back and was protected in Cooper's reign by Connor Roberts and he hasn't got any quicker.
We were playing a back four but Grimes ended up permanently between the centre halves and left players unmarked in the midfield and left our wingers with no-one to play balls to in the middle of the park. | | | |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 21:02 - Jan 18 with 346 views | Dr_Winston |
| Ronald ? Is it all his fault ? on 21:00 - Jan 18 by RichardO |
Don't think Naughton of 12 months ago would be perfect in a back three even his experience would not have made up for his lack of pace he as been targeted as far back and was protected in Cooper's reign by Connor Roberts and he hasn't got any quicker.
We were playing a back four but Grimes ended up permanently between the centre halves and left players unmarked in the midfield and left our wingers with no-one to play balls to in the middle of the park. |
Even in his 20's Naughton was never the fastest. The first five yards of his game were always in his head. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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