| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages 10:02 - Jan 15 with 1191 views | AnotherJohn |
Government plans to repeal sections of the Northern Ireland Troubles Act 2023 may mean that IRA members can claim damages for internment paid by the tax payer. Experts say this could cost us millions.
'Hilary Benn, the Northern Ireland Secretary, said that the decision to repeal the law underlined “the Government’s absolute commitment to the Human Rights Act”.'
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/pm-to-pay-damages-to-gerry-adams/ar-BB1rsw [Post edited 15 Jan 10:17]
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 09:07 - Jan 18 with 151 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 21:54 - Jan 17 by Kilkennyjack |
True but a bit potentially misleading.
The fall out between the irish Free Staters and the remaing IRA was based on Michael Collins agreeing to the partition of Ireland.
The IRA wanted a free whole Ireland, staying true to the cause of an Ireland not just Gaelic, not just free …but both Gaelic and free.
But the British threatened a terrible war if partition was not agreed.
That would threaten any of Ireland being free.
Everyone actually wanted a united Ireland, but the Free Staters reluctantly decided to take the British offer.
Michael Collins paid with his life.
War was avoided.
But all parties wanted a united Ireland, its just how we get there. Michael Collins said partition gave Ireland ‘the freedom to achieve freedom’ (in tbe north).
Only the Brits (and specifically the Brits planted in the north) actually wanted the loyalist Northern Ireland statelet. |
There's nothing misleading in it at all, it's a statement of fact.
Your post could be misleading though, if nobody besides the British wanted Northern Ireland, where did the loyalist terrorists come from? Are you claiming they were/are all British? That would be a claim very hard if not impossible, to prove.
Do people in the North really want a united Ireland,
youtube.com/watch?v=zyQIqfzZOL4 | | | |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 09:21 - Jan 18 with 134 views | Boundy |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 09:07 - Jan 18 by SullutaCreturned |
There's nothing misleading in it at all, it's a statement of fact.
Your post could be misleading though, if nobody besides the British wanted Northern Ireland, where did the loyalist terrorists come from? Are you claiming they were/are all British? That would be a claim very hard if not impossible, to prove.
Do people in the North really want a united Ireland,
youtube.com/watch?v=zyQIqfzZOL4 |
Irish history is a twisted wreck , and if KK thinks he has the solution is a dreamer along with hundreds of dreamers who tried before. He mistakenly believes that the British are only on the mainland when deep down he knows as the rest of do that's not true. The Loyalists are called Loyalist, element in NI are more in some parts more loyal than back on the mainland and so a commitment to the UK. Until either sides shifts its views then that will always remain. | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master." |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 09:27 - Jan 18 with 121 views | onehunglow |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 09:21 - Jan 18 by Boundy |
Irish history is a twisted wreck , and if KK thinks he has the solution is a dreamer along with hundreds of dreamers who tried before. He mistakenly believes that the British are only on the mainland when deep down he knows as the rest of do that's not true. The Loyalists are called Loyalist, element in NI are more in some parts more loyal than back on the mainland and so a commitment to the UK. Until either sides shifts its views then that will always remain. |
I just wish we had stayed out of these countries in the first place
They’ve brought us nothing but pain
It only benefitted the few not the many | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 17:31 - Jan 18 with 38 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 09:27 - Jan 18 by onehunglow |
I just wish we had stayed out of these countries in the first place
They’ve brought us nothing but pain
It only benefitted the few not the many |
Exactly OHL. |  |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 17:37 - Jan 18 with 35 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 09:07 - Jan 18 by SullutaCreturned |
There's nothing misleading in it at all, it's a statement of fact.
Your post could be misleading though, if nobody besides the British wanted Northern Ireland, where did the loyalist terrorists come from? Are you claiming they were/are all British? That would be a claim very hard if not impossible, to prove.
Do people in the North really want a united Ireland,
youtube.com/watch?v=zyQIqfzZOL4 |
By the 1720s, British Protestants were the majority in Ulster.
The plantations changed the demography of Ireland by creating large communities with British and Protestant identities. The ruling classes of these communities replaced the older Catholic ruling class, which had shared with the general population a common Irish identity and set of political attitudes.
These are the original loyalist people in the north of Ireland. 🇬🇧 | |
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| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 18:40 - Jan 18 with 18 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Commitment to Human Rights Act may mean IRA terrorists are paid damages on 17:37 - Jan 18 by Kilkennyjack |
By the 1720s, British Protestants were the majority in Ulster.
The plantations changed the demography of Ireland by creating large communities with British and Protestant identities. The ruling classes of these communities replaced the older Catholic ruling class, which had shared with the general population a common Irish identity and set of political attitudes.
These are the original loyalist people in the north of Ireland. 🇬🇧 |
The term "British protestants....you do understand that as Irrland was ruled by Britain the residents of Ireland would have been considered British. Back then it wouldn't have been Irish British or Welsh British either, just British because the Monarchy and government wouldn't have it any other way..
Do you also understand that these "British protestants" included a large number of Scottish settlers who had been arriving for 100 years by then. In 1607, Sir Randall MacDonnell settled 300 Presbyterian Scots families on his land in Antrim. From 1609 onwards, British Protestant immigrants arrived in Ulster through direct importation by Undertakers to their estates and also by a spread to unpopulated areas, through ports such as Derry and Carrickfergus.
By 1622, a survey found that there were 6,402 British adult males on Plantation lands, of whom 3,100 were English and 3,700 Scottish – indicating a total adult planter population of around 12,000. However, another 4,000 Scottish adult males had settled in unplanted Antrim and Down, giving a total settler population of about 19,000
Despite the fact that the Plantation had decreed that the Irish population be displaced, this did not generally happen in practice. Firstly, some 300 native landowners who had taken the English side in the Nine Years' War were rewarded with land grants. Secondly, the majority of the Gaelic Irish remained in their native areas, but were now only allowed worse land than before the plantation. They usually lived close to and even in the same townlands as the settlers and the land they had farmed previously.. The main reason for this was that Undertakers could not import enough English or Scottish tenants to fill their agricultural workforce and had to fall back on Irish tenants
My thanks to Wiki for the copy and paste, for the full information that others do not always provide.
As you can see, Kilky, The "British protestants" were mostly Scottish and native Irish. | | | |
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