| Get the Blankets Out 13:27 - Jan 10 with 1929 views | raynor94 |
Centrica has announced the UK has less than a weeks supply of gas demand, due to the colder weather.
Britain has very little capacity to store gas, Putin must be having a good chuckle, after the end Russian gas pipelines supplies through Ukraine ended at the end of last month |  |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 18:30 - Jan 10 with 951 views | raynor94 |
Thank God for that, I'll put my heating on now😉 | |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 18:35 - Jan 10 with 900 views | Whiterockin |
| Get the Blankets Out on 18:30 - Jan 10 by raynor94 |
Thank God for that, I'll put my heating on now😉 |
What am I going to do with all the gas I've stockpiled.  |  | | |
| Get the Blankets Out on 18:52 - Jan 10 with 810 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Get the Blankets Out on 16:17 - Jan 10 by onehunglow |
I worked in this industry after leaving Police .
Standing charges are basically for maintenance of supplies and infrastructure .
Yeah baby |
And yet the infrastructure is crumbling, where does the money go. |  | | |
| Get the Blankets Out on 19:05 - Jan 10 with 784 views | union_jack |
| Get the Blankets Out on 18:30 - Jan 10 by raynor94 |
Thank God for that, I'll put my heating on now😉 |
I’ve just done the same after coming back from buying all the toilet paper in the supermarket 😂 |  |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 19:15 - Jan 10 with 771 views | builthjack |
| Get the Blankets Out on 15:37 - Jan 10 by SgorioFruit |
this is exactly why i have got a log burner |
Me too.
All that work with the chainsaw and log splitter in the summer is well worth it. |  |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 20:49 - Jan 10 with 650 views | blackswan |
Plenty of oil and gas left in the north sea but governments won't allow permits better to import it nut zero see doh | | | |
| Get the Blankets Out on 20:50 - Jan 10 with 647 views | raynor94 |
| Get the Blankets Out on 19:15 - Jan 10 by builthjack |
Me too.
All that work with the chainsaw and log splitter in the summer is well worth it. |
Think of the environment mun! 😉 | |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 21:19 - Jan 10 with 591 views | Flashberryjack |
| Get the Blankets Out on 20:50 - Jan 10 by raynor94 |
Think of the environment mun! 😉 |
Won't be long before they ban log burners to save the forests, then import wood from China, makes sense to some people. |  |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 22:52 - Jan 10 with 518 views | builthjack |
| Get the Blankets Out on 20:50 - Jan 10 by raynor94 |
Think of the environment mun! 😉 |
Indeed. I stack them for 2 or 3 years. | |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 00:56 - Jan 11 with 473 views | Robbie |
Thankfully just stocked up on bog roll , pasta and candles just in time .
Everybody get to the shops ASAP . | | | |
| Get the Blankets Out on 11:36 - Jan 11 with 347 views | Dr_Winston |
Decades of poor Government decisions led us to this point, not least of which the reluctance to build plenty of nuclear all over the place and switch the UK to an almost entirely electric energy system.
The UK has nine reactors. France has 57 and is able to export €3bn worth of electricity every year because they don't waste their time on renewables. Far more of their homes and businesses are heated by electricity, leaving them far less reliant on gas supplies. |  |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 12:07 - Jan 11 with 339 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Get the Blankets Out on 11:36 - Jan 11 by Dr_Winston |
Decades of poor Government decisions led us to this point, not least of which the reluctance to build plenty of nuclear all over the place and switch the UK to an almost entirely electric energy system.
The UK has nine reactors. France has 57 and is able to export €3bn worth of electricity every year because they don't waste their time on renewables. Far more of their homes and businesses are heated by electricity, leaving them far less reliant on gas supplies. |
For Energy read Housing, Health and Pensions and everything needing a long term strategy. |  |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 12:22 - Jan 11 with 324 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Get the Blankets Out on 11:36 - Jan 11 by Dr_Winston |
Decades of poor Government decisions led us to this point, not least of which the reluctance to build plenty of nuclear all over the place and switch the UK to an almost entirely electric energy system.
The UK has nine reactors. France has 57 and is able to export €3bn worth of electricity every year because they don't waste their time on renewables. Far more of their homes and businesses are heated by electricity, leaving them far less reliant on gas supplies. |
Correct labour banned the building of any new nuclear power stations in 1997. The Conservatives reversed this decision in 2010. It can take up to 20 years to go through through planning process and public enquiries and then build them . Hinckley point C currently under construction, which of course was delayed by covoid. Work on Sizewell C has also started. | |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 12:28 - Jan 11 with 322 views | Dr_Winston |
| Get the Blankets Out on 12:07 - Jan 11 by JACKMANANDBOY |
For Energy read Housing, Health and Pensions and everything needing a long term strategy. |
And with vegetables like Milliband holding important roles in the decision making process that's not going to improve any time soon.
In any case, the Tories aren't blameless either. Eighteen years in power between 1979-1997 and opened a grand total of three. | |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 12:34 - Jan 11 with 312 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Get the Blankets Out on 18:29 - Jan 10 by majorraglan |
This is typical of the lack of longer term thinking and planning which has blighted our country for decades and in this case I think the finger of blame needs to be pointed firmly at the Conservative government which was in power during the run up and including 2017 as opposed to Centrica who are a private company.
We currently have 12 days storage at normal usage levels, but that drops to 7.5 days during extended cold snaps. Germany has 108 days storage, France 126, and the Netherlands around 108 which is absolutely crackers.
Rough Field was aging and needed costly repairs. Its owners Centrica approached the government of the day and sought financial assistance to maintain the facility which was the largest storage facility in the U.K. and a key piece of our critical national infrastructure. The request was turned down and they decided to close it down and I can see why they’d make that call. Why should a private company maintain a piece of national infrastructure at their own expense when they don’t get anything in return. The facility was reopened in 2022 after the Russian invasion of Ukraine after the U.K. government provided financial assistance, but it’s nowhere near what it was before.
We are now paying the price for a succession of poor governmental decisions, if there is a small silver lining it’s that most of Europe filled their gas storage tanks by the 1st of November and with most countries having 3 months storage hopefully gas prices won’t peak to high. The Germans and French were filling their tanks during the summer when prices were low, we are forced to go with the market price! |
Germany has no gas fields of it's own and has to import all its gas. Their import infrastructure is not large enough to import all their Autumn and Winter gas needs. They have to import it during Spring and Summer when demand is low and store it until Winter when demand exceeds what they can import via their infrastructure. The storage facilities are very expensive to run and maintain.
The UK by comparison is directly connected to the North Sea and imports most of its gas supplies from either the UK gas fields or the Norwegian gas fields via pipeline.
The rest of the UK gas supplies comes from LNG from gulf states and USA. LNG is both expensive to ship and store. | |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 13:12 - Jan 11 with 285 views | KeithHaynes |
Sounds like the govt have got into them at some level to control and scare people. Make them anxious so everyone like sheep hangs on the next word. |  |
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| Get the Blankets Out on 16:30 - Jan 11 with 208 views | majorraglan |
| Get the Blankets Out on 12:34 - Jan 11 by felixstowe_jack |
Germany has no gas fields of it's own and has to import all its gas. Their import infrastructure is not large enough to import all their Autumn and Winter gas needs. They have to import it during Spring and Summer when demand is low and store it until Winter when demand exceeds what they can import via their infrastructure. The storage facilities are very expensive to run and maintain.
The UK by comparison is directly connected to the North Sea and imports most of its gas supplies from either the UK gas fields or the Norwegian gas fields via pipeline.
The rest of the UK gas supplies comes from LNG from gulf states and USA. LNG is both expensive to ship and store. |
Purchasing the gas in the spring and summer means it’s a lot cheaper to buy, if we had decent storage facilities we could also do the same, buy in bulk when the price is cheaper, but we can’t and we’re held hostage by the spot market. Approximately 30% of our gas is shipped in to us as LNG with the US and Qatar the main suppliers, that figure is only going to get bigger as our production of gas decreases.
Our infrastructure is in a poor state, whether it’s gas storage, the national grid, electricity generating, water and sewers. This is a result of a lack of foresight, poor planning, poor regulation, and limited investment. Labour , the LD’s and Conservative governments are all at fault, but the last 2 Conservative regimes have been particularly poor. [Post edited 11 Jan 21:11]
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| Get the Blankets Out on 18:03 - Jan 11 with 148 views | DJack |
| Get the Blankets Out on 16:30 - Jan 11 by majorraglan |
Purchasing the gas in the spring and summer means it’s a lot cheaper to buy, if we had decent storage facilities we could also do the same, buy in bulk when the price is cheaper, but we can’t and we’re held hostage by the spot market. Approximately 30% of our gas is shipped in to us as LNG with the US and Qatar the main suppliers, that figure is only going to get bigger as our production of gas decreases.
Our infrastructure is in a poor state, whether it’s gas storage, the national grid, electricity generating, water and sewers. This is a result of a lack of foresight, poor planning, poor regulation, and limited investment. Labour , the LD’s and Conservative governments are all at fault, but the last 2 Conservative regimes have been particularly poor. [Post edited 11 Jan 21:11]
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| Get the Blankets Out on 21:59 - Jan 11 with 68 views | majorraglan |
| Get the Blankets Out on 12:22 - Jan 11 by felixstowe_jack |
Correct labour banned the building of any new nuclear power stations in 1997. The Conservatives reversed this decision in 2010. It can take up to 20 years to go through through planning process and public enquiries and then build them . Hinckley point C currently under construction, which of course was delayed by covoid. Work on Sizewell C has also started. |
Incorrect in a number of points - again.
Labour did ban the building of nuclear power stations in 1997 on economic grounds, but in 2006 Tony Blair proposed a raft of new nuclear power stations and warned that failing to build them would make it more difficult for the UK to meet climate change targets and leave the country dependent on foreign imports of gas, “mostly from the Middle East, and Africa and Russia.” Greenpeace took the government to Court, won and blocked the proposals. In 2009 the then Labour government announced fresh plans for a new generation of power plants.
We had a change of government in 2010, the LD’s in the coalition were against nuclear power but a deal was cobbled together which would allow the Labour proposals for Sizewell and Hinckley to proceed.
Since 2010, the Hinckley project has been beset with problem after problem with arguments over costs, companies withdrawing, failure to agree prices for electrifying etc etc. In 2015 EDF stated the project would not be completed until 2023, but that’s now been pushed back to 2031 potentially 2034.The contractors have admitted the delay attributable to Covid is 15 months, but we’re looking at a delay of around 8 years to 11 years.
It’s also fair to say the cost of the Hinckley project has ballooned, the envisaged cost at the outset was £18bn (in 2015 prices) - the cost is now believed to be around £34bn (at 2015 prices) but if we allow for inflation that pushes the price up to £45bn. By the time we get to 2034 it’ll be even higher. Most of the delays etc have taken place under the watch of our last government, is it because of rank incompetence?
It seems everything in this country takes an age to build and inevitably comes in way over budget. [Post edited 11 Jan 21:59]
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