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Refilling the trough 19:37 - Jan 8 with 504 viewsBoundy

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Refilling the trough on 20:40 - Jan 8 with 426 viewsKilkennyjack

Serious question - Is there anything welsh that you are supportive of ?
You appear to dislike all things linked to Wales and cant wait to rabble rouse.

Do you think that of all the peoples of Europe that - uniquely - the welsh cannot be trusted to run their own affairs …?

Always remember that a new door for the House of Lords alone recently cost £7m - see we can all claim faux outrage. ‘Refiling the uk trough’ perhaps a next story for you then ? ?

The suggested pay rise has come from an independent body.
So not really sure what else they can do ? Maybe refuse it or give to charity ?

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Refilling the trough on 20:48 - Jan 8 with 415 viewsLuther27

Refilling the trough on 20:40 - Jan 8 by Kilkennyjack

Serious question - Is there anything welsh that you are supportive of ?
You appear to dislike all things linked to Wales and cant wait to rabble rouse.

Do you think that of all the peoples of Europe that - uniquely - the welsh cannot be trusted to run their own affairs …?

Always remember that a new door for the House of Lords alone recently cost £7m - see we can all claim faux outrage. ‘Refiling the uk trough’ perhaps a next story for you then ? ?

The suggested pay rise has come from an independent body.
So not really sure what else they can do ? Maybe refuse it or give to charity ?


I’ll try to smile at your comments when my 5% plus council tax increase pops through my letter box. I’ll have fond memories of how much the signage for 20mph costs and oh how I’ll laugh when I think of the cost of an increase in the Senedd to be followed by the associated increase for staff and office space.
Independent Wales my backside….those leaches should be on the dole and that building be turned into a refugee Center for all I care.
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Refilling the trough on 20:55 - Jan 8 with 402 viewsSullutaCreturned

Refilling the trough on 20:40 - Jan 8 by Kilkennyjack

Serious question - Is there anything welsh that you are supportive of ?
You appear to dislike all things linked to Wales and cant wait to rabble rouse.

Do you think that of all the peoples of Europe that - uniquely - the welsh cannot be trusted to run their own affairs …?

Always remember that a new door for the House of Lords alone recently cost £7m - see we can all claim faux outrage. ‘Refiling the uk trough’ perhaps a next story for you then ? ?

The suggested pay rise has come from an independent body.
So not really sure what else they can do ? Maybe refuse it or give to charity ?


Do you really think that the leader of a country of less than 3.5 million in a devolved government that hasn't even got full powers deserves more money than the PM of the entire UK?

The seond bit, completely irrelevant and not mentioned by the OP

The third bit, whataboutery.

Now the last bit, I remember independent bodies recommending pay rises before, when Westminster got 11% and the Senedd 18% the politicians said they couldn't turn it down yet when independent bodies suggested pay rises for the police, NHS and teachers the governments said they couldn't afford it and made reduced offers. It's one rule for the politico's and a different rule for the rest of us.

It's a simple question, Kilky, do you think the Welsh FM deserves a bigger pay packet than the UKPM?
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Refilling the trough on 21:02 - Jan 8 with 378 viewsSullutaCreturned

Refilling the trough on 20:48 - Jan 8 by Luther27

I’ll try to smile at your comments when my 5% plus council tax increase pops through my letter box. I’ll have fond memories of how much the signage for 20mph costs and oh how I’ll laugh when I think of the cost of an increase in the Senedd to be followed by the associated increase for staff and office space.
Independent Wales my backside….those leaches should be on the dole and that building be turned into a refugee Center for all I care.


He posted that when he's fully aware that quite a few on here would like a vote on abolishing the Senedd.

Personally, at a time when Welsh essential services are short of money, short of resources and failing by most measures, giving politicians who haven't even got full powers over Wales such a pay packet seems crazy to me. You wouldn't give a regional manager a bigger pay packet than the CEO.
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Refilling the trough on 21:24 - Jan 8 with 330 viewsLuther27

Refilling the trough on 21:02 - Jan 8 by SullutaCreturned

He posted that when he's fully aware that quite a few on here would like a vote on abolishing the Senedd.

Personally, at a time when Welsh essential services are short of money, short of resources and failing by most measures, giving politicians who haven't even got full powers over Wales such a pay packet seems crazy to me. You wouldn't give a regional manager a bigger pay packet than the CEO.


I really feel we are fast returning to the days of peasantry by every charlatan that poses as a politician. I am sick to death these people forcing every sort of bull crap policy down my throat and telling me to pay for it.
If any politician was told they couldn’t claim for second homes…transport…council tax…heating costs etc etc would these parasites still do the job? No they bloody well wouldn’t. So why should I do my job to fund them?
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Refilling the trough on 22:38 - Jan 8 with 255 viewsKilkennyjack

Refilling the trough on 20:55 - Jan 8 by SullutaCreturned

Do you really think that the leader of a country of less than 3.5 million in a devolved government that hasn't even got full powers deserves more money than the PM of the entire UK?

The seond bit, completely irrelevant and not mentioned by the OP

The third bit, whataboutery.

Now the last bit, I remember independent bodies recommending pay rises before, when Westminster got 11% and the Senedd 18% the politicians said they couldn't turn it down yet when independent bodies suggested pay rises for the police, NHS and teachers the governments said they couldn't afford it and made reduced offers. It's one rule for the politico's and a different rule for the rest of us.

It's a simple question, Kilky, do you think the Welsh FM deserves a bigger pay packet than the UKPM?


No - thats why i never said it.

Whats your view on it ?

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Refilling the trough on 22:46 - Jan 8 with 245 viewsonehunglow

More learning Welsh though so not all bad then

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Refilling the trough on 22:58 - Jan 8 with 233 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Refilling the trough on 22:38 - Jan 8 by Kilkennyjack

No - thats why i never said it.

Whats your view on it ?


My considered opinion is that it stinks.

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Refilling the trough on 03:53 - Jan 9 with 142 viewsraynor94

Absolutely disgusting, and it won't be long before there are another bunch vying to get their snouts in the trough.

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Refilling the trough on 05:17 - Jan 9 with 129 viewsKilkennyjack

Refilling the trough on 22:46 - Jan 8 by onehunglow

More learning Welsh though so not all bad then


That is a positive thing agreed, but hardly even a side issue in this debate.
Only you have mentioned it.

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