| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:07 - Jan 3 with 1949 views | GVJack |
"Luke remains fully committed To Swansea City"
Has Luke come out as said so much to the fans? |  | |  |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:16 - Jan 3 with 1912 views | KeithHaynes |
As we said two days ago this needs closing down.Coleman has little choice atm, he is not going to air his dirty laundry in public. But he isn’t stupid. A few think people who choose to start throwing insults about after the event are never an issue. They choose when to believe something then start quoting the very site they are slating. There’s people like that everywhere. It all pans out in the end, and for Luke it will. As I suppose it will for many in time. Lived it this week, learned loads and more acquaintances. A week is a long time in any changing life, it’s just a bit clogged up with thicko’s.
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:19 - Jan 3 with 1902 views | QJumpingJack |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:16 - Jan 3 by KeithHaynes |
As we said two days ago this needs closing down.Coleman has little choice atm, he is not going to air his dirty laundry in public. But he isn’t stupid. A few think people who choose to start throwing insults about after the event are never an issue. They choose when to believe something then start quoting the very site they are slating. There’s people like that everywhere. It all pans out in the end, and for Luke it will. As I suppose it will for many in time. Lived it this week, learned loads and more acquaintances. A week is a long time in any changing life, it’s just a bit clogged up with thicko’s.
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I wonder if Coleman will order Luke to change his agent? Possible? | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:33 - Jan 3 with 1830 views | GVJack |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:16 - Jan 3 by KeithHaynes |
As we said two days ago this needs closing down.Coleman has little choice atm, he is not going to air his dirty laundry in public. But he isn’t stupid. A few think people who choose to start throwing insults about after the event are never an issue. They choose when to believe something then start quoting the very site they are slating. There’s people like that everywhere. It all pans out in the end, and for Luke it will. As I suppose it will for many in time. Lived it this week, learned loads and more acquaintances. A week is a long time in any changing life, it’s just a bit clogged up with thicko’s.
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I don't disagree with you Keith. I've stated in another thread that it's all to do with timing. Maybe this week/month mid or end of the season. But I certainly don't expect him to be taking pre season in July.
He would have to pull off the impossible to win the fans back around, and I just don't think he's capable. | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:59 - Jan 3 with 1740 views | PawelAbbott |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:33 - Jan 3 by GVJack |
I don't disagree with you Keith. I've stated in another thread that it's all to do with timing. Maybe this week/month mid or end of the season. But I certainly don't expect him to be taking pre season in July.
He would have to pull off the impossible to win the fans back around, and I just don't think he's capable. |
Beat Cardiff easily and it will all be forgotten about. | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:11 - Jan 3 with 1687 views | SullutaCreturned |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:59 - Jan 3 by PawelAbbott |
Beat Cardiff easily and it will all be forgotten about. |
By some maybe, not all certainly. For a few the derby is everything but most of us have greater expectations.
Williams has clearly not been honest, it's hardly uncommon but when clearly caught out then reasonably decent people apologise. The truly devious and the cowardly do not. | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:16 - Jan 3 with 1650 views | Fireboy2 |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:11 - Jan 3 by SullutaCreturned |
By some maybe, not all certainly. For a few the derby is everything but most of us have greater expectations.
Williams has clearly not been honest, it's hardly uncommon but when clearly caught out then reasonably decent people apologise. The truly devious and the cowardly do not. |
The derby is almost everything to me D, even if we beat them i still want him gone.
I had rock solid plans for the scum game, now they are in tatters because he hasn't gone. |  | | |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:16 - Jan 3 with 1647 views | vetchonian |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:11 - Jan 3 by SullutaCreturned |
By some maybe, not all certainly. For a few the derby is everything but most of us have greater expectations.
Williams has clearly not been honest, it's hardly uncommon but when clearly caught out then reasonably decent people apologise. The truly devious and the cowardly do not. |
what certain proof have you he has been dishonest
It seems this could all be proved yet the proof is not being offered | |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:19 - Jan 3 with 1636 views | Fireboy2 |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:16 - Jan 3 by vetchonian |
what certain proof have you he has been dishonest
It seems this could all be proved yet the proof is not being offered |
Haven't you read any of the reports that keef and his great team have put out since williams' faux pas? | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:29 - Jan 3 with 1590 views | SullutaCreturned |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:16 - Jan 3 by vetchonian |
what certain proof have you he has been dishonest
It seems this could all be proved yet the proof is not being offered |
As I have just posted elsewhere, he said he knew nothing of all this because he's not on social media. What are the chances that socila media is full of this talk and the club's media department don't say anything to Coleman and nobody at the club talks to Williams about it?
Williams knew, if he didn't then the club is a completely disorganised rabble and we have absolutely no chance. | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:29 - Jan 3 with 1589 views | Dr_Winston |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:33 - Jan 3 by GVJack |
I don't disagree with you Keith. I've stated in another thread that it's all to do with timing. Maybe this week/month mid or end of the season. But I certainly don't expect him to be taking pre season in July.
He would have to pull off the impossible to win the fans back around, and I just don't think he's capable. |
Beat Cardiff and do some fist pumps and he'll win over the children on Twitter because that's basically all he needs to do to impress them. Mostly the same people who would love Russy back.
Those of us with some self-respect and an ability to see the obvious will need more pursuading. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:36 - Jan 3 with 1563 views | vetchonian |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:29 - Jan 3 by Dr_Winston |
Beat Cardiff and do some fist pumps and he'll win over the children on Twitter because that's basically all he needs to do to impress them. Mostly the same people who would love Russy back.
Those of us with some self-respect and an ability to see the obvious will need more pursuading. |
But the question remains will we ever get a manager that will appease the fanbase and its forums
Cooper was derided,Martin split the fanbase,Duff was despised due to his comments re the derby, and now Williams....What chances his succesor surviving | |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:41 - Jan 3 with 1534 views | Whiterockin |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:36 - Jan 3 by vetchonian |
But the question remains will we ever get a manager that will appease the fanbase and its forums
Cooper was derided,Martin split the fanbase,Duff was despised due to his comments re the derby, and now Williams....What chances his succesor surviving |
If the manager and board work in unity and results follow, any new manager will have a fighting chance. |  | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:43 - Jan 3 with 1528 views | GVJack |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:29 - Jan 3 by SullutaCreturned |
As I have just posted elsewhere, he said he knew nothing of all this because he's not on social media. What are the chances that socila media is full of this talk and the club's media department don't say anything to Coleman and nobody at the club talks to Williams about it?
Williams knew, if he didn't then the club is a completely disorganised rabble and we have absolutely no chance. |
If he was oblivious to the rumours he certainly didn't took surprised when asked the question and interview.
If he was, "go speak to o my agent" shouldn't have been. the response.
"I know nothing about this and have no interest" should have been. | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:44 - Jan 3 with 1504 views | vetchonian |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:19 - Jan 3 by Fireboy2 |
Haven't you read any of the reports that keef and his great team have put out since williams' faux pas? |
of course but there is nothing concrete only claims from media accounts.
In this afternoons post following the presser it states there is proof
"Well, start choosing your words better then Luke, because nobody believes in their right mind you didn’t know what your agents were up to. And if this becomes a constant we will prove it."
So why not disclose this proof......then we can bring an end to this | |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:45 - Jan 3 with 1498 views | Dr_Winston |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:36 - Jan 3 by vetchonian |
But the question remains will we ever get a manager that will appease the fanbase and its forums
Cooper was derided,Martin split the fanbase,Duff was despised due to his comments re the derby, and now Williams....What chances his succesor surviving |
Cooper's biggest problem is that his football was just dull, and his dependence on England u17 players probably restricted us towards the end of his time.
Martin is the biggest Charlatan ever to have managed this club. It staggers me that even now, there are people who would happily have him back as boss. To be honest I'd have second thoughts about employing him to clean the East Stand urinals.
Duff was the right idea but poor execution. Things needed a shakeup. A no-nonsense type who would ruffle feathers was needed, but it didn't work out. Committed the Cardinal sin of telling supporters the truth instead of lying to them like most do.
Willams has only himself to blame. Doesn't look like he wants to be here. Fairly sure the club would rather he be elsewhere. Sadly nobody else wants him. A bit like Grimes. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:49 - Jan 3 with 1481 views | SullutaCreturned |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:44 - Jan 3 by vetchonian |
of course but there is nothing concrete only claims from media accounts.
In this afternoons post following the presser it states there is proof
"Well, start choosing your words better then Luke, because nobody believes in their right mind you didn’t know what your agents were up to. And if this becomes a constant we will prove it."
So why not disclose this proof......then we can bring an end to this |
It won;t be the end. If this site has to post the proof then that's the end of Williams job, it has to be.
Very little of what Williams has said is believeable or makes sense. | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:02 - Jan 3 with 1429 views | pembsjack |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:19 - Jan 3 by QJumpingJack |
I wonder if Coleman will order Luke to change his agent? Possible? |
Would be the ideal way for luke to show they acted without his knowledge. | | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:05 - Jan 3 with 1401 views | KeithHaynes |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 21:44 - Jan 3 by vetchonian |
of course but there is nothing concrete only claims from media accounts.
In this afternoons post following the presser it states there is proof
"Well, start choosing your words better then Luke, because nobody believes in their right mind you didn’t know what your agents were up to. And if this becomes a constant we will prove it."
So why not disclose this proof......then we can bring an end to this |
We have said on many occasions that sometimes people need protecting.
Would never ever put anyone in jeopardy. As we have been saying all week, this isn’t about WBA, this is about what he said and in the context he said it.
No need for us to disclose anything (at this time) and I will say this, there won’t be any redress because those involved know exactly the fact we are right. | |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:08 - Jan 3 with 1374 views | KeithHaynes |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 20:33 - Jan 3 by GVJack |
I don't disagree with you Keith. I've stated in another thread that it's all to do with timing. Maybe this week/month mid or end of the season. But I certainly don't expect him to be taking pre season in July.
He would have to pull off the impossible to win the fans back around, and I just don't think he's capable. |
Not aimed at you 👍
Just a few nameless faceless clowns elsewhere.
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:09 - Jan 3 with 1367 views | swan_si |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:05 - Jan 3 by KeithHaynes |
We have said on many occasions that sometimes people need protecting.
Would never ever put anyone in jeopardy. As we have been saying all week, this isn’t about WBA, this is about what he said and in the context he said it.
No need for us to disclose anything (at this time) and I will say this, there won’t be any redress because those involved know exactly the fact we are right. |
I think that's classed as hearsay. |  | | |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:12 - Jan 3 with 1324 views | KeithHaynes |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:09 - Jan 3 by swan_si |
I think that's classed as hearsay. |
Hearsay is something that is known by someone that another person told them without proof.
When we report rumour it’s called just that.
When we say we have the information that is fact. Not hearsay. | |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:13 - Jan 3 with 1318 views | vetchonian |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:05 - Jan 3 by KeithHaynes |
We have said on many occasions that sometimes people need protecting.
Would never ever put anyone in jeopardy. As we have been saying all week, this isn’t about WBA, this is about what he said and in the context he said it.
No need for us to disclose anything (at this time) and I will say this, there won’t be any redress because those involved know exactly the fact we are right. |
That's a cop.out
and given the source is not at this club then no damage done really. | |
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| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:16 - Jan 3 with 1280 views | Dr_Winston |
| William speculation unhelpful says Coleman on 22:13 - Jan 3 by vetchonian |
That's a cop.out
and given the source is not at this club then no damage done really. |
You don't need to be "ITK" or to have "Sources" to understand that Williams has made it abundantly clear that he doesn't necessarily have a long and productive career at Swansea City as one of his priorities.
It's almost insulting how ham fisted the attempts of the last few days have been at playing down his behaviour in recent weeks. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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