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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry 05:53 - Jan 3 with 5087 viewsAnotherJohn

Jess Phillips has rejected a request from Oldham Council for a Home-Office-led national inquiry into historic child exploitation in Oldham. It seems that Government prefers to frame this as a local issue, and is insisting that it is for the Council to decide on any future action. The Tories, Reform, Maggie Oliver and even Elon Musk, are wading in to excoriate Starmer. One allegation is that his leadership of the CPS may have been part of the problem. Some suggest there is a continuing establishment cover-up to avoid further inflaming racial tensions.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/tories-demand-inquiry-into-grooming-gangs-

https://thecritic.co.uk/the-establishment-is-still-denying-justice-to-the-victim

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/politics/government/rochdale-whistleblower-maggie-oliv
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:25 - Jan 6 with 785 viewsAnotherJohn

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 08:20 - Jan 6 by trampie

Is this Muller you talk of German police ?


No - former UK police officer.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1129294542058185
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:47 - Jan 6 with 762 viewsonehunglow

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:25 - Jan 6 by AnotherJohn

No - former UK police officer.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1129294542058185


And not one to mess with

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:54 - Jan 6 with 742 viewstrampie

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:25 - Jan 6 by AnotherJohn

No - former UK police officer.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1129294542058185


The poster named her Mueller, the poster must have done a typo unless he/she was talking about someone else.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:16 - Jan 6 with 705 viewsmangohilljack

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:54 - Jan 6 by trampie

The poster named her Mueller, the poster must have done a typo unless he/she was talking about someone else.
[Post edited 6 Jan 9:55]


Get it right I posted Muller
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:45 - Jan 6 with 689 viewsAnotherJohn

Another related story today about the Home Office being unwilling to say how many groomers (rapists) have been deported.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/home-office-refuses-to-publish-groomer-depo
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 11:31 - Jan 6 with 642 viewstrampie

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:16 - Jan 6 by mangohilljack

Get it right I posted Muller


So who is this Muller you are talking about ?

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 18:55 - Jan 6 with 573 viewsBoundy

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:45 - Jan 6 by AnotherJohn

Another related story today about the Home Office being unwilling to say how many groomers (rapists) have been deported.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/home-office-refuses-to-publish-groomer-depo


It appears that to reduce local concerns and to reduce the high risk of civil unrest, should the facts thousands of children , some as young as 12 were being abused ,were sacrificed . The theme which runs through this story is containment of the stories , even if it meant turning a blind eye ,y this by the very people who's sole purpose was to protect and serve.
Two fathers arrested for trying to remove their under age girls who were being held at a property , how much does that tell you.
The Home Office is unwilling to say how many have been deported because they'd be embarrassed to reveal the figures , my guess would be none.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:23 - Jan 6 with 555 viewsbuilthjack

Why didn’t the previous govt sort this out, instead of passing the buck.
They had every opportunity to do so, but wouldn’t.
Shame on them.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:29 - Jan 6 with 550 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:23 - Jan 6 by builthjack

Why didn’t the previous govt sort this out, instead of passing the buck.
They had every opportunity to do so, but wouldn’t.
Shame on them.


This has been going on since the 1980’s. They should all hang their heads in shame.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:39 - Jan 6 with 540 viewsbuilthjack

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:29 - Jan 6 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

This has been going on since the 1980’s. They should all hang their heads in shame.


Fair enough. So why are the Tories kicking off as if nothing to do with them?

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:40 - Jan 6 with 537 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:39 - Jan 6 by builthjack

Fair enough. So why are the Tories kicking off as if nothing to do with them?


It’s their job as opposition I suppose. Regardless of how tasteless it is.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:05 - Jan 6 with 494 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

The worrying thing about Starmers response today is that he seriously seems to believe that criticism of the response of the authorities towards the systematic rape and sexual violence against children by organised gangs in hundreds of towns spanning nearly four decades is “far right”.

This is surely the sort of thing that everybody across the political spectrum should find completely abhorrent?

But Starmer doesn’t.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:19 - Jan 6 with 476 viewsDr_Winston

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 21:05 - Jan 6 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

The worrying thing about Starmers response today is that he seriously seems to believe that criticism of the response of the authorities towards the systematic rape and sexual violence against children by organised gangs in hundreds of towns spanning nearly four decades is “far right”.

This is surely the sort of thing that everybody across the political spectrum should find completely abhorrent?

But Starmer doesn’t.


I don't think he actually does believe it, but smearing critics of many of their policies as racist and far right has been a standard tactic of the left for decades. Fear of being labelled as such seems to have been one of the, perhaps the most significant barrier to dealing with the rape gangs.

The problem they have is that it doesn't work any more. People aren't afraid of it because the tactic has been used so often lately it's lost its power. When women who dare to complain about men in skirts using their spaces are labelled as Fascist, then what worth does the word have any more?

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 22:18 - Jan 6 with 432 viewsmajorraglan

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:25 - Jan 6 by AnotherJohn

No - former UK police officer.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1129294542058185


Apparently the FB footage is from 5 years ago, so we’re talking around 19/20 when we had a Conservative government and I’m surprised we didn’t see them make more of this and investigate.

I know nothing about this police officer, but if what she’s saying is correct it’s politically explosive. Has she or anyone produced a copy of the documentation because In the 5 years you’d think someone somewhere would have a copy and produce it. I’d love to see it for my own eyes.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 23:04 - Jan 6 with 392 viewsBoundy

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 19:23 - Jan 6 by builthjack

Why didn’t the previous govt sort this out, instead of passing the buck.
They had every opportunity to do so, but wouldn’t.
Shame on them.


Why didn't the previous Labour Government act ? these attacks on children were happening during their tenure as well . all parties should hang their heads in shame ,wouldn't you agree .

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 23:52 - Jan 6 with 365 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 23:04 - Jan 6 by Boundy

Why didn't the previous Labour Government act ? these attacks on children were happening during their tenure as well . all parties should hang their heads in shame ,wouldn't you agree .


That's when we see inertia when both main parties are at fault, just look at the Post Office scandal as an example; "best not talk about this one"

Starmer went on and on about the politics today rather than the disadvantaged girls who were attacked and have received no redress despite the political cover up at the time of the offences by many Labour Councils and the lack of action by the Police and the CPS.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 01:22 - Jan 7 with 322 viewsRobbie

BBC verify online are giving Starmer a bit of a tough arguement to counter as his time in his role as head of the CPS . I done nothing wrong but all went wrong on your watch mate .

Have the Beeb got the balls to finally out him as a liar and backtracker on election pledges
I doubt it .

Trump and Musk in control of Blighty , The Don is targeting Greenland as his next objective .

Stranger things happen .
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 08:47 - Jan 7 with 245 viewsAnotherJohn

Maggie Oliver enraged by "far right" slur.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/grooming-gangs-campaigner-incandescent-with
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:11 - Jan 7 with 222 viewstrampie

The thing is people voting Labour for decades have been labelled far left, if you look at that site that plots where parties are on a right/left axis Labour are anything but left wing (and I call them out for that) but the Conservatives and Reform are bona fide right wing parties per the graph therefore if the cap fits and all that then they need to wear it.

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:18 - Jan 7 with 213 viewsonehunglow

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 08:47 - Jan 7 by AnotherJohn

Maggie Oliver enraged by "far right" slur.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/grooming-gangs-campaigner-incandescent-with


Ah the far right

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:18 - Jan 7 with 213 viewsBoundy

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 08:47 - Jan 7 by AnotherJohn

Maggie Oliver enraged by "far right" slur.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/grooming-gangs-campaigner-incandescent-with


and rightly so , its amazing how many times those two words are used to try to shut down debate and attack those who are so far removed from that title.
It says a lot when a woman Pakistani activist has to call out the establishment when those accusations are used . Is it any wonder that counter claims are thrown back which are not helpful.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/pakistani-activist-accuses-keir-starmer-of-

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:29 - Jan 7 with 185 viewsmajorraglan

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 08:47 - Jan 7 by AnotherJohn

Maggie Oliver enraged by "far right" slur.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/grooming-gangs-campaigner-incandescent-with


I think it’s fair to say some of those calling for the enquiry are linked to far right activists, some.. but not all.
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:35 - Jan 7 with 166 viewsmajorraglan

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 01:22 - Jan 7 by Robbie

BBC verify online are giving Starmer a bit of a tough arguement to counter as his time in his role as head of the CPS . I done nothing wrong but all went wrong on your watch mate .

Have the Beeb got the balls to finally out him as a liar and backtracker on election pledges
I doubt it .

Trump and Musk in control of Blighty , The Don is targeting Greenland as his next objective .

Stranger things happen .


From the BBC report….

“ We have been unable to find any direct criticism of Starmer personally in any of the reports on the scandal, nor can we identify any suggestions that he himself made any decisions not to prosecute.”

Starmer made changes at the CPS which made it easier to prosecute the offenders.

Fortunately, Nazir Afzal overturned the CPS lawyers in the North of England and prosecutions went ahead.

Victims were let down, it’s a damning indictment of our country, jus5 like thecPostvOffice scandal, the infected blood scandal and others. Is there anything we cant get wrong?

Edit - typo
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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:11 - Jan 7 with 146 viewsonehunglow

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:35 - Jan 7 by majorraglan

From the BBC report….

“ We have been unable to find any direct criticism of Starmer personally in any of the reports on the scandal, nor can we identify any suggestions that he himself made any decisions not to prosecute.”

Starmer made changes at the CPS which made it easier to prosecute the offenders.

Fortunately, Nazir Afzal overturned the CPS lawyers in the North of England and prosecutions went ahead.

Victims were let down, it’s a damning indictment of our country, jus5 like thecPostvOffice scandal, the infected blood scandal and others. Is there anything we cant get wrong?

Edit - typo
[Post edited 7 Jan 19:08]


Afzal was ok

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Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 10:21 - Jan 7 with 124 viewsAnotherJohn

Oldham grooming gangs: Government blocks national inquiry on 09:29 - Jan 7 by majorraglan

I think it’s fair to say some of those calling for the enquiry are linked to far right activists, some.. but not all.


Sorry. but it is all too convenient to seek to discredit a position by pointing to an extreme minority among the many who support that position. For me this just doesn't wash. Of course, there are politics involved, and it would be fair to say that none of the main political parties got to grips with this issue.
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