| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr 22:18 - Dec 17 with 4795 views | Boundy |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:10 - Dec 19 with 787 views | raynor94 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:56 - Dec 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Westminster wastes billions more than any other public institution.
They spend ten times more annually on the English Arts Council than is spent on the welsh language.
Lets hear you batter the English Arts council for hospitals not having funding then ?
You seem very quiet on that one.
I wonder why …..? |
You always fall back on the UK government argument, whilst conveniently ignoring this Welsh governments disastrous rule over Wales.
And how you can mention hospitals, with the state the Welsh NHS is in is laughable |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:41 - Dec 19 with 738 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:46 - Dec 19 by raynor94 |
Why I asked, is Swansea is a English speaking City and always has been, are you fluent in Welsh? In all my time through work and socially I've never heard anybody converse in Welsh |
Apart from the outskirts north of Morriston Welsh has never been the lingua Franca of Jacks . Ever.
Many dislike the language as they do rugby ,seen as a more Welsh game
Swansea was a large industrial behemoth and not a rural idyll or dark valley village where welsh was the mother tongue . It was so because of the relative isolation .
It is the case in north wales too where villages in Gwynedd are 100% welsh with people who hate English including those who speak it
Uncomfortable fact
Anyone wantbto get personal ,DM me but make it good | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:41 - Dec 19 with 733 views | lifelong |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:46 - Dec 19 by raynor94 |
Why I asked, is Swansea is a English speaking City and always has been, are you fluent in Welsh? In all my time through work and socially I've never heard anybody converse in Welsh |
There are 10 Welsh medium primary schools and 2 large Welsh medium secondary schools in the Swansea area which are very popular.
26000 people in Swansea speak Welsh which is 12% of the population, granted it is a smaller number than the national average but it is not a small number. |  | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:02 - Dec 19 with 711 views | raynor94 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:41 - Dec 19 by lifelong |
There are 10 Welsh medium primary schools and 2 large Welsh medium secondary schools in the Swansea area which are very popular.
26000 people in Swansea speak Welsh which is 12% of the population, granted it is a smaller number than the national average but it is not a small number. |
I have nothing against that, but I was just pointing out my experience, perhaps things will change in the future | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:28 - Dec 19 with 686 views | majorraglan |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 21:46 - Dec 19 by raynor94 |
Why I asked, is Swansea is a English speaking City and always has been, are you fluent in Welsh? In all my time through work and socially I've never heard anybody converse in Welsh |
When I worked in Swansea City Centre many years ago, there were always a people around who could speak Welsh. Out of a team of about 65 people, we had at 5 Welsh speakers who’d speak the language amongst themselves when they could and who’d speak it to customers. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:45 - Dec 19 with 662 views | majorraglan |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:41 - Dec 19 by onehunglow |
Apart from the outskirts north of Morriston Welsh has never been the lingua Franca of Jacks . Ever.
Many dislike the language as they do rugby ,seen as a more Welsh game
Swansea was a large industrial behemoth and not a rural idyll or dark valley village where welsh was the mother tongue . It was so because of the relative isolation .
It is the case in north wales too where villages in Gwynedd are 100% welsh with people who hate English including those who speak it
Uncomfortable fact
Anyone wantbto get personal ,DM me but make it good |
My grandfather was born in Swansea in 1904, he grew up in a Welsh speaking house hold and only learned to speak English after he moved to Neath to work in a steel works. Going back 120 years, there was definitely a thriving Welsh language in Swansea, | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:54 - Dec 19 with 647 views | Luther27 |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 20:34 - Dec 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
So is it the cost or the "alienation".? The alienated one are the older people who missed the boat. Times have changed.
It is about empathy with your surroundings. Swansea urban people do not have the empathy it seems. The are clear anti Welsh narratives. Anything money spent in Wales is a waste. Londoners do not think like this. For them any money spent anywhere else is a waste.
I do not want Wales to be like England and I do not a want the airport and the Senedd to be shutdown. |
It’s about communication with the people Res. If 80% of the people…the voters…do not understand the message then what do you think the outcome will be?
Tell you what…..why not try posting all future posts in Welsh. It will be interesting to see how many responses you get. Call it a spot poll.
Another thing….do not confuse me as being anything other than Welsh. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 07:58 - Dec 20 with 561 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:41 - Dec 19 by lifelong |
There are 10 Welsh medium primary schools and 2 large Welsh medium secondary schools in the Swansea area which are very popular.
26000 people in Swansea speak Welsh which is 12% of the population, granted it is a smaller number than the national average but it is not a small number. |
Well said.
Facts see. |  |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 07:59 - Dec 20 with 559 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:28 - Dec 19 by majorraglan |
When I worked in Swansea City Centre many years ago, there were always a people around who could speak Welsh. Out of a team of about 65 people, we had at 5 Welsh speakers who’d speak the language amongst themselves when they could and who’d speak it to customers. |
This is my experiance as well. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 08:03 - Dec 20 with 554 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:10 - Dec 19 by raynor94 |
You always fall back on the UK government argument, whilst conveniently ignoring this Welsh governments disastrous rule over Wales.
And how you can mention hospitals, with the state the Welsh NHS is in is laughable |
No.
You cant slag the spending on welsh language whilst uk govt gets a free ppass to spend 10 times that on English Arts Council annually and much else.
Its a valid comparison. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 08:16 - Dec 20 with 546 views | Boundy |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 08:03 - Dec 20 by Kilkennyjack |
No.
You cant slag the spending on welsh language whilst uk govt gets a free ppass to spend 10 times that on English Arts Council annually and much else.
Its a valid comparison. |
Its proportional to each budget .Wales has x amount , England gets x amount to spend . | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 08:41 - Dec 20 with 541 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 22:41 - Dec 19 by lifelong |
There are 10 Welsh medium primary schools and 2 large Welsh medium secondary schools in the Swansea area which are very popular.
26000 people in Swansea speak Welsh which is 12% of the population, granted it is a smaller number than the national average but it is not a small number. |
So 88% have English as mother tongue
That is overwhelming [Post edited 20 Dec 8:42]
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 08:43 - Dec 20 with 537 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:45 - Dec 19 by majorraglan |
My grandfather was born in Swansea in 1904, he grew up in a Welsh speaking house hold and only learned to speak English after he moved to Neath to work in a steel works. Going back 120 years, there was definitely a thriving Welsh language in Swansea, |
Industry changed Wales completely | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 10:05 - Dec 20 with 500 views | lifelong |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 08:41 - Dec 20 by onehunglow |
So 88% have English as mother tongue
That is overwhelming [Post edited 20 Dec 8:42]
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Is anyone denying it isn’t.
What is the matter with you Welsh language haters? Why is it bothering you so much, you don’t even live in Wales, you left here in the 1970’s and can’t be bothered to return. Every time a Welsh language thread appears you come out with the same old crap. | | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 10:12 - Dec 20 with 502 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 10:05 - Dec 20 by lifelong |
Is anyone denying it isn’t.
What is the matter with you Welsh language haters? Why is it bothering you so much, you don’t even live in Wales, you left here in the 1970’s and can’t be bothered to return. Every time a Welsh language thread appears you come out with the same old crap. |
“ you” .Again
We’ve been here before. Use the ignore button.
It’s clear no discussion is possible with some over “ the language” . The language is loved more than a cuddly new born puppy .
It’s pathetic to see grown men acting like jilted lovers .
We get this from those of our fans who are born well away from the council estates of Swansea and he glorious terraces of Sandfields where Welsh is seen in a totally different light to those who are from outlying areas .
And this site is an English language one . | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:40 - Dec 23 with 361 views | Kilkennyjack |
I would be happy for everything in wales to be provided in both languages.
Deal ? | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:03 - Dec 24 with 309 views | Boundy |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 23:40 - Dec 23 by Kilkennyjack |
I would be happy for everything in wales to be provided in both languages.
Deal ? |
It is , just the wrong way around | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:11 - Dec 24 with 296 views | Whiterockin |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:03 - Dec 24 by Boundy |
It is , just the wrong way around |
I also think it costs an awful lot of money we can't afford. |  | | |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:34 - Dec 24 with 284 views | onehunglow |
Going to be fun to hear the BBC and ITV on election night .
Meanwhile,back in th3 constituencies ,now renamed,nothing stirs . Nothing improves . That applies in both languages | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 10:49 - Dec 24 with 247 views | Boundy |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:11 - Dec 24 by Whiterockin |
I also think it costs an awful lot of money we can't afford. |
Well that all depends on your priorities really and as past experiences have shown health, wealth and well being along with education and in not in any particular order top of the list . | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:16 - Dec 24 with 240 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 08:16 - Dec 20 by Boundy |
Its proportional to each budget .Wales has x amount , England gets x amount to spend . |
But if you are slagging off Welsh Govt by comparing welsh language spend vs hospital needs, then lets hear you slag UK Govt by comparison of English Arts Council spend vs hospital needs.
Please feel free to go ahead …. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:29 - Dec 24 with 233 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:03 - Dec 24 by Boundy |
It is , just the wrong way around |
Its not.
The languages do enjoy equal status in public sector bodies when dealing with citizens.
But in areas not dealing with citizens … then its a choice.
Currently, private companies can decide themselves what kind of Welsh language services such as signage and translation services they can offer.
There really should be language standards for national private bodies, such as banks which operate on a national level in Wales.
Some companies such as Lidl provide equal Welsh and English signage in stores, with announcements being made in Welsh before English. However, this is not the standard in the private sector. Water, energy and bus companies are not obliged to provide services in Welsh.
But i welcome your support for true language parity. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:35 - Dec 24 with 229 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:34 - Dec 24 by onehunglow |
Going to be fun to hear the BBC and ITV on election night .
Meanwhile,back in th3 constituencies ,now renamed,nothing stirs . Nothing improves . That applies in both languages |
The BBC are fantastic in correctly pronouncing towns in far off lands if there is a war.
However Llanelli or Llandudno remain beyond their professional capabilities.
Election night is going to be box office. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:36 - Dec 24 with 224 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 09:11 - Dec 24 by Whiterockin |
I also think it costs an awful lot of money we can't afford. |
Can ‘we’ afford to fund the English Arts Council ?
Its ten times the cost of Welsh language spend. | |
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| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:58 - Dec 24 with 212 views | onehunglow |
| Gorllewin Abertawe Gŵyr on 11:35 - Dec 24 by Kilkennyjack |
The BBC are fantastic in correctly pronouncing towns in far off lands if there is a war.
However Llanelli or Llandudno remain beyond their professional capabilities.
Election night is going to be box office. |
I agree
I’ve heard men weep when Jeremy Vine came up with Tray or Chee and Ponti prid .
There again, the Liveroool suburb Gateacre ,where my cousin was born ,pronounced Gat a Cuh was refered to by Vine as Gate Acre .
Still,it’s oop north or in Wales and therefore doesn’t matter | |
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