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Is Europe turning ? 19:19 - Nov 26 with 2393 viewsKeithHaynes

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Is Europe turning ? on 18:32 - Dec 2 with 395 viewsTummer_from_Texas

Is Europe turning ? on 02:57 - Nov 27 by Kilkennyjack

Trump never finished the wall and then Trump blocked the funding needed for Biden to complete it.

Be interesting to see if a simple solution can address a complex problem.

And lets see how his great round up and deport millions of people promise works out.
Spoiler alert; it will never happen.
Trump lies.


Trump wasn't in office. He blocked nothing.

But of cousre he didn't support Biden's terrible bill, and neither did anyone who knew its contents. No, it wasn't going to finish the wall. Instead, it was going to give amnesty to more than 10 million illegal immigrants. But even worse, it was going to codify "catch and release," which was the whole reason illegal immigration exploded immediately after the Biden Crime Family was installed via election rigging in the Oval Office.

That bill would have prevented Trump from putting Remain In Mexico back in place, and it would have screwed the USA into perpetuity.

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Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 with 297 viewsKilkennyjack

Is Europe turning ? on 17:26 - Dec 2 by SullutaCreturned

Maybe his time in the EU autocracy had him thinking he could force his views on people. He certainly forced some "stuff" on the UK.

So recently we've had the German coalition collapsing, the French is dissarray, the Polish standing up against the EU (amongst others) an immigration crisis across Europe, the EU share of world trade dropping.

All that and some people still think the EU is the land of milk and honey.


Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.

Here he is telling more fibs.



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Is Europe turning ? on 13:01 - Dec 3 with 258 viewsAnotherJohn

Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack

Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.

Here he is telling more fibs.




You missed an important part of the story. The UK-developed AZ vaccine was sold on a non-profit basis and was the best hope (apart from the inferior Chinese products) that most developing countries had of protecting their populations from COVID-19. The license given to the Serum Institute of India, and later some other countries, helped get production up to a level where this was possible. Unfortunately, some elements within the EU did their best to discredit the UK vaccine and that cost a lot of lives in the global south. Instead the EU tried to make people wait for the German and French products, which came to market later and at much higher cost.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/03/undermining-the-astrazenec

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n414

https://www.who.int/news/item/02-03-2021-covax-publishes-first-round-of-allocati

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=worry+about+AZ+vaccine+in+g

https://theconversation.com/what-happened-to-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-now-rare-in

As the last link suggests: "research my colleagues and I conducted in Ghana highlighted how people had observed the responses in Europe and North America. The result was increased hesitancy towards the AstraZeneca vaccine."
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Is Europe turning ? on 15:18 - Dec 3 with 231 viewscontroversial_jack

Is Europe turning ? on 13:01 - Dec 3 by AnotherJohn

You missed an important part of the story. The UK-developed AZ vaccine was sold on a non-profit basis and was the best hope (apart from the inferior Chinese products) that most developing countries had of protecting their populations from COVID-19. The license given to the Serum Institute of India, and later some other countries, helped get production up to a level where this was possible. Unfortunately, some elements within the EU did their best to discredit the UK vaccine and that cost a lot of lives in the global south. Instead the EU tried to make people wait for the German and French products, which came to market later and at much higher cost.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/03/undermining-the-astrazenec

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n414

https://www.who.int/news/item/02-03-2021-covax-publishes-first-round-of-allocati

https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=worry+about+AZ+vaccine+in+g

https://theconversation.com/what-happened-to-the-astrazeneca-vaccine-now-rare-in

As the last link suggests: "research my colleagues and I conducted in Ghana highlighted how people had observed the responses in Europe and North America. The result was increased hesitancy towards the AstraZeneca vaccine."


It turned out that the AZ vaccine was one of the least effective and got dropped by many countries in favour of others
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Is Europe turning ? on 15:23 - Dec 3 with 226 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack

Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.

Here he is telling more fibs.




I imagine countless millions voted for brexit in 2016 based entirely on what Boris Johnson said in 2024 about a vaccine released in 2020.

We need a people’s vote immediately.

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Is Europe turning ? on 18:08 - Dec 3 with 182 viewsSullutaCreturned

Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack

Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.

Here he is telling more fibs.




This thread isn't about Boris Johnson (whom, YES, is a proven liar but even his lies cannot time travel) and it's not about Covid nor even about Brexit really.

It is about the EU now and the state it is in, about how many countries across the continent are having trouble and are pushing back against EU rules.

But you keep prattling on about Bojo, it's what you do.
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Is Europe turning ? on 18:22 - Dec 3 with 170 viewsFlashberryjack

Is Europe turning ? on 18:08 - Dec 3 by SullutaCreturned

This thread isn't about Boris Johnson (whom, YES, is a proven liar but even his lies cannot time travel) and it's not about Covid nor even about Brexit really.

It is about the EU now and the state it is in, about how many countries across the continent are having trouble and are pushing back against EU rules.

But you keep prattling on about Bojo, it's what you do.


Why do you keep answering the persistant bore.

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Is Europe turning ? on 18:53 - Dec 3 with 132 viewsAnotherJohn

Is Europe turning ? on 15:18 - Dec 3 by controversial_jack

It turned out that the AZ vaccine was one of the least effective and got dropped by many countries in favour of others


Actually the AZ vaccine was crucial for the first two rounds of jabs, and saved a great many lives. The downside was a higher rate of side effects and the problem that a viral vector vaccine was harder to modify to cope with emerging variants than the mRNA vaccines.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-why-is-the-astrazeneca-covid-v

Regarding clinical effectiveness against early variants of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the AZ vaccine actually held up pretty well.

https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1088

The Chinese CoronaVac and Sinopharm vaccines raised greater doubts about long-term effectiveness that led to a recommendation for a fourth dose. Of course, the Sputnik V vaccine touted by your mate Putin as the best in the world was the most controversial of all.

https://www.dw.com/en/is-sputnik-v-vaccine-safe/a-57219314
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Is Europe turning ? on 21:04 - Dec 3 with 91 viewsSullutaCreturned

Is Europe turning ? on 18:22 - Dec 3 by Flashberryjack

Why do you keep answering the persistant bore.


I'm equally as persistant!

Anyway, wasn't the AZ jab dropped purely because it wasn't effective against more recent strains and asit is harder to manipulate, not cost effective so it was replaced?
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Is Europe turning ? on 21:32 - Dec 3 with 74 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Is Europe turning ? on 00:43 - Dec 3 by Kilkennyjack

Some people still think that this proven liar told the truth on Brexit.
He didn’t.

Here he is telling more fibs.




We left the EU on the 2st February 2020.

The AZ vaccine was first used in December 2020 10 months after we left the EU. That is why the UK was far ahead of the EU in rolling out the vaccine.

If you remember the EU even threatened to withhold the pzizer vaccine ordered as the UK was not in EU until it was pointed put they would be in breach of the UK EU withdrawal agreement.
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Is Europe turning ? on 21:35 - Dec 3 with 71 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Is Europe turning ? on 15:18 - Dec 3 by controversial_jack

It turned out that the AZ vaccine was one of the least effective and got dropped by many countries in favour of others


It I estimated that the AZ vaccine saved 100 million lives in its first two years.
The French vaccine did not work at all and was never released.

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Is Europe turning ? on 22:51 - Dec 3 with 26 viewscontroversial_jack

Is Europe turning ? on 21:35 - Dec 3 by felixstowe_jack

It I estimated that the AZ vaccine saved 100 million lives in its first two years.
The French vaccine did not work at all and was never released.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/07/world/africa/covid-vaccine-astrazeneca-south-
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Is Europe turning ? on 23:27 - Dec 3 with 16 viewsKilkennyjack

Is Europe turning ? on 15:23 - Dec 3 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth

I imagine countless millions voted for brexit in 2016 based entirely on what Boris Johnson said in 2024 about a vaccine released in 2020.

We need a people’s vote immediately.


Boris lied in 2016 as well see, its what he does.

This is why this happened as well …

In early July 2022, 62 of the United Kingdom's 179 government ministers, parliamentary private secretaries, trade envoys, and party vice-chairmen resigned from their positions in the second administration formed by Boris Johnson as Prime Minister, culminating in Johnson's resignation on 7 July.

Apparently this bloke is now back to being a hack.

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Is Europe turning ? on 23:28 - Dec 3 with 13 viewsKilkennyjack

Is Europe turning ? on 18:08 - Dec 3 by SullutaCreturned

This thread isn't about Boris Johnson (whom, YES, is a proven liar but even his lies cannot time travel) and it's not about Covid nor even about Brexit really.

It is about the EU now and the state it is in, about how many countries across the continent are having trouble and are pushing back against EU rules.

But you keep prattling on about Bojo, it's what you do.


Lots of nations want to join the EU.
There is that.

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