| Interesting article - NY Times on 19:59 - Nov 21 with 1224 views | Whiterockin |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 19:52 - Nov 21 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Known by the wimps as " sellouts" of course. The fans threatened to take them to court. Have you forgotten? |
Still 100% fact though. What have the yanks actually achieved in their time here apart from getting us relegated and losing a fortune. Not so bright are they. |  | |  |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:19 - Nov 21 with 1155 views | max936 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 19:59 - Nov 21 by Whiterockin |
Still 100% fact though. What have the yanks actually achieved in their time here apart from getting us relegated and losing a fortune. Not so bright are they. |
This, they've runaway with their tails between their legs, the sellouts are still singing and dancing about the luck and good fortune they had and the fortune they made. |  |
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:29 - Nov 21 with 1118 views | Whiterockin |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:19 - Nov 21 by max936 |
This, they've runaway with their tails between their legs, the sellouts are still singing and dancing about the luck and good fortune they had and the fortune they made. |
It takes real business skill to buy something for £70M and sell for $3,000. Yet some hold them up as role models, suckers. | | | |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:39 - Nov 21 with 1097 views | KeithHaynes |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:29 - Nov 21 by Whiterockin |
It takes real business skill to buy something for £70M and sell for $3,000. Yet some hold them up as role models, suckers. |
They know only to well that their restraint on spending, had they been brave would have led to promotion to the premier league. And they now know only too well that this ownership group can achieve better. That’s why the ten million a year if we get promoted was the inducement that worked. |  |
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:42 - Nov 21 with 1079 views | Whiterockin |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:39 - Nov 21 by KeithHaynes |
They know only to well that their restraint on spending, had they been brave would have led to promotion to the premier league. And they now know only too well that this ownership group can achieve better. That’s why the ten million a year if we get promoted was the inducement that worked. |
A small price to pay to be shot of them. | | | |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 22:39 - Nov 21 with 962 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:29 - Nov 21 by Whiterockin |
It takes real business skill to buy something for £70M and sell for $3,000. Yet some hold them up as role models, suckers. |
Almost as dull as the fans group. £21m to not much on the same valuation. The Teflon boys who are given a free pass. They did not sell a share sitting on a 10,000% mark up.
Hey ho they only invested pennies. 1000 members and the only voices raised were not to sell. Incredible.
The Yankees are a free hit. Having a go at your own gets your sanity questioned. [Post edited 21 Nov 22:41]
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 23:06 - Nov 21 with 947 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:29 - Nov 21 by Whiterockin |
It takes real business skill to buy something for £70M and sell for $3,000. Yet some hold them up as role models, suckers. |
When Swansea got relegated in the early 1980s there was no US safety belt to cushion the fall.
No convertible loan note or other investments up to £23m to help the club through and pay the local creditors. Remember the convertible loan note was needed because of the useless legal case by the fans group.
Decent people in my view Silverstein sorted out right royal Welsh mess. Kaplan and Levien failed but had good intentions . They are getting lectured but sit on a massive $800m asset in DC United. Only up $600m after the Swansea hiccup.
Much bigger disaster litter the EPL and EFL. Everton Derby Bolton Stoke even Cardiff. | |
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 06:26 - Nov 22 with 900 views | Whiterockin |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 23:06 - Nov 21 by ReslovenSwan1 |
When Swansea got relegated in the early 1980s there was no US safety belt to cushion the fall.
No convertible loan note or other investments up to £23m to help the club through and pay the local creditors. Remember the convertible loan note was needed because of the useless legal case by the fans group.
Decent people in my view Silverstein sorted out right royal Welsh mess. Kaplan and Levien failed but had good intentions . They are getting lectured but sit on a massive $800m asset in DC United. Only up $600m after the Swansea hiccup.
Much bigger disaster litter the EPL and EFL. Everton Derby Bolton Stoke even Cardiff. |
My club when Kaplan and Levien took over was a totally different club to the one in the old First division. We were an established Premier League club with a television income that was not available in the early 80s, a different animal completely.
Kaplan and Levien did not have good intentions for my club they were only looking to make money and failed.
I like the majority of Swansea City supporters don't give a flying fig about DC United. It seems that you are far more supportive of Kaplan and Levien than you are of Swansea City. Clearly you are not a supporter of the club and personally I hope you disappear when they do. Enjoy your soccer in the land where profit is more important than a club and heritage. | | | |
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 09:35 - Nov 22 with 819 views | onehunglow |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 06:26 - Nov 22 by Whiterockin |
My club when Kaplan and Levien took over was a totally different club to the one in the old First division. We were an established Premier League club with a television income that was not available in the early 80s, a different animal completely.
Kaplan and Levien did not have good intentions for my club they were only looking to make money and failed.
I like the majority of Swansea City supporters don't give a flying fig about DC United. It seems that you are far more supportive of Kaplan and Levien than you are of Swansea City. Clearly you are not a supporter of the club and personally I hope you disappear when they do. Enjoy your soccer in the land where profit is more important than a club and heritage. |
Pretty much dead right
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 11:10 - Nov 22 with 758 views | QJumpingJack |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 23:06 - Nov 21 by ReslovenSwan1 |
When Swansea got relegated in the early 1980s there was no US safety belt to cushion the fall.
No convertible loan note or other investments up to £23m to help the club through and pay the local creditors. Remember the convertible loan note was needed because of the useless legal case by the fans group.
Decent people in my view Silverstein sorted out right royal Welsh mess. Kaplan and Levien failed but had good intentions . They are getting lectured but sit on a massive $800m asset in DC United. Only up $600m after the Swansea hiccup.
Much bigger disaster litter the EPL and EFL. Everton Derby Bolton Stoke even Cardiff. |
what has DC United got to do with the current mess Swansea find themselves in? | | | |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 12:10 - Nov 22 with 708 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 20:19 - Nov 21 by max936 |
This, they've runaway with their tails between their legs, the sellouts are still singing and dancing about the luck and good fortune they had and the fortune they made. |
They gave handed over the club to ex colleagues at a knock down prices with debts cleared by them. The club now has a good plan.
The so called "sell outs" sold what they built from scratch. Starting with a mess at the bottom of league two and leaving with a team in the PL. It was not luck. The only owner not to cash in from Jenkins and Morgan's work we're the Trust who contributed little to the rise in reality. They must have been asleep.
I have empathy with the people who have owned the club and kept it ship shape. I cannot understand the mentality of fans like yourself who cannot give a good word about anyone except the fans. | |
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 12:22 - Nov 22 with 698 views | QJumpingJack |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 12:10 - Nov 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
They gave handed over the club to ex colleagues at a knock down prices with debts cleared by them. The club now has a good plan.
The so called "sell outs" sold what they built from scratch. Starting with a mess at the bottom of league two and leaving with a team in the PL. It was not luck. The only owner not to cash in from Jenkins and Morgan's work we're the Trust who contributed little to the rise in reality. They must have been asleep.
I have empathy with the people who have owned the club and kept it ship shape. I cannot understand the mentality of fans like yourself who cannot give a good word about anyone except the fans. |
why do you only name check Jenkins and Morgan. How about the other directors?
And your comment about the Trust and the rise of the club is uncalled for. Very disappointing. | | | |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 12:46 - Nov 22 with 671 views | Chippy69 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 12:22 - Nov 22 by QJumpingJack |
why do you only name check Jenkins and Morgan. How about the other directors?
And your comment about the Trust and the rise of the club is uncalled for. Very disappointing. |
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For saving us from hell
And then they put us through it
It's time the bastards fell
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 13:01 - Nov 22 with 640 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 06:26 - Nov 22 by Whiterockin |
My club when Kaplan and Levien took over was a totally different club to the one in the old First division. We were an established Premier League club with a television income that was not available in the early 80s, a different animal completely.
Kaplan and Levien did not have good intentions for my club they were only looking to make money and failed.
I like the majority of Swansea City supporters don't give a flying fig about DC United. It seems that you are far more supportive of Kaplan and Levien than you are of Swansea City. Clearly you are not a supporter of the club and personally I hope you disappear when they do. Enjoy your soccer in the land where profit is more important than a club and heritage. |
Profit is a dirty word where most people work for the Government. Government lives of taxes that feed of profits either by companies or individuals.
The sellouts built a infrastructure off club "profits" and cashed in selling that infrastructure and PL status. The club invested profits to avoid paying excessive tax .
The only way to cash on was to sell shares. The fans group preferred to go to court rather than sell a share.
I do not hide. Kaplan and Levien leave with my best wishes. The club is not left in a " mess*.
They could not guarantee success. Fans feel let down because other teams completed better Stoke who put bid Swansea for several players are £200m out of pocket.
I am a supporter but not an ordinary supporter. The fans body s biggest investment is English legal firms. They have taken £1.3 m from the club and only invested £200,000. Poor. The average fans does not care. | |
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 17:29 - Nov 22 with 552 views | max936 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 11:10 - Nov 22 by QJumpingJack |
what has DC United got to do with the current mess Swansea find themselves in? |
Deflection in it and the usual delusional gobbledegook. | |
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 17:43 - Nov 22 with 529 views | max936 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 12:46 - Nov 22 by Chippy69 |
Best thing I ever done was put him on ignore |
Same here Chippy. Why he quotes some of my posts I don't know, I've absolutely no interest in anything he posts. | |
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| Interesting article - NY Times on 19:41 - Nov 22 with 425 views | QJumpingJack |
WalesOnline is often used a source. It is a shame WOL didn't ask the hard questions over the last eight years.
The Trust have done incredible work since the Petty era and it is unfair that they untruths are continually posted on this forum about 2015-2016. Levein and Kaplan have admitted publically what happened.
And lets remember a Swans director in the pre JL/SK era was once a Trust director. | | | |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 10:35 - Nov 23 with 210 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Interesting article - NY Times on 17:43 - Nov 22 by max936 |
Same here Chippy. Why he quotes some of my posts I don't know, I've absolutely no interest in anything he posts. |
Roll up roll up let's get together and crush free speech. You represent failed stale thinking. Cymru am byth no monoculture here. | |
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