| Manchester Airport Police attack 10:00 - Nov 17 with 2785 views | raynor94 |
After 4 months of CPS inactivity Nigel Farage is mounting a private prosecution on the brothers.
Good on him! Justice must be served on these two |  |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:15 - Nov 19 with 765 views | controversial_jack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:31 - Nov 19 by felixstowe_jack |
The same can be said of the undemocratic EU. It is in a mess and a huge waste of money trying to impose its will on democratic countries.
The people of Wales and the UK voted to leave.
Nothing stopping the EU from negotiating a sensible trade deal with the UK. They have trade deals with plenty of non UK countries. |
Why would they deal with us when we have snubbed them.
The EU is as democratic as this country
The people voted to leave, but regret it now and wish to rejoin |  | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:29 - Nov 19 with 736 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:15 - Nov 19 by controversial_jack |
Why would they deal with us when we have snubbed them.
The EU is as democratic as this country
The people voted to leave, but regret it now and wish to rejoin |
Some do some don't, it's exactly the same with devolution. |  | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:30 - Nov 19 with 730 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:15 - Nov 19 by controversial_jack |
Why would they deal with us when we have snubbed them.
The EU is as democratic as this country
The people voted to leave, but regret it now and wish to rejoin |
How is the EU democratic. All 28 EU commissioners, who decide EU policies are appointed never elected. How is that democratic ?
Both the EU presidents are appointed never elected. How is that democratic.
The EU should not consider a democratic decision made by voters as a snub. They should accept individual democratic decision of members states.
Very few people who voted to leave regret it.
Inflation is higher in EU than UK
Unemployment in the EU is higher than the UK
Even growth in the EU is lower thsn in the UK.
The £ has risen against both the € and $ since we left | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 11:46 - Nov 19 with 681 views | Boundy |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:30 - Nov 19 by felixstowe_jack |
How is the EU democratic. All 28 EU commissioners, who decide EU policies are appointed never elected. How is that democratic ?
Both the EU presidents are appointed never elected. How is that democratic.
The EU should not consider a democratic decision made by voters as a snub. They should accept individual democratic decision of members states.
Very few people who voted to leave regret it.
Inflation is higher in EU than UK
Unemployment in the EU is higher than the UK
Even growth in the EU is lower thsn in the UK.
The £ has risen against both the € and $ since we left |
Your post and paragraphs within are uncomfortable truths for some. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 12:07 - Nov 19 with 667 views | Gwyn737 |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 11:46 - Nov 19 by Boundy |
Your post and paragraphs within are uncomfortable truths for some. |
Not really as it's not a particularly useful comparison.
What we really could do with knowing (which is all hypothetical, unfortunately) is whether the UK would have been better or worse off if we'd stayed in.
This is what causes arguments because both sides pick figures to suit their positions. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 13:26 - Nov 19 with 619 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 12:07 - Nov 19 by Gwyn737 |
Not really as it's not a particularly useful comparison.
What we really could do with knowing (which is all hypothetical, unfortunately) is whether the UK would have been better or worse off if we'd stayed in.
This is what causes arguments because both sides pick figures to suit their positions. |
I think you may find there people on both sides with strong options. But the vast majority in the middle don't care either way and just try to make the best of their life. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 16:15 - Nov 19 with 555 views | controversial_jack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:30 - Nov 19 by felixstowe_jack |
How is the EU democratic. All 28 EU commissioners, who decide EU policies are appointed never elected. How is that democratic ?
Both the EU presidents are appointed never elected. How is that democratic.
The EU should not consider a democratic decision made by voters as a snub. They should accept individual democratic decision of members states.
Very few people who voted to leave regret it.
Inflation is higher in EU than UK
Unemployment in the EU is higher than the UK
Even growth in the EU is lower thsn in the UK.
The £ has risen against both the € and $ since we left |
They are elected in their respective countries. We don't elect our PM or even the cabinet. You don't have a say over who is going to be health secretary or transport secretary
https://theconversation.com/how-democratic-is-the-european-union-59419 [Post edited 19 Nov 16:20]
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 17:36 - Nov 19 with 512 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:57 - Nov 19 by Whiterockin |
Why is Kilkennyjack saying that Starmer was not telling the truth on his Brexit statement "we can make Brexit work" unless it was to appease the British public and keep them onside. Why would you also do that unless you knew it was still what the majority of British voters wanted and you didn't want to alienate the majority of voters. I think Kilkennyjack is getting himself tied in knots again. |
No.
Starmer wants to move on from Brexit cos its divisive nonsense.
Sadly it will not be a successful strategy cos its damaged our economy.
Bloomberg found that Brexit is costing the UK economy £100 billion a year.
You can’t hide from the truth.
The young are massively pro EU, thats the inevitable good outcome. |  |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 18:11 - Nov 19 with 489 views | Boundy |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 12:07 - Nov 19 by Gwyn737 |
Not really as it's not a particularly useful comparison.
What we really could do with knowing (which is all hypothetical, unfortunately) is whether the UK would have been better or worse off if we'd stayed in.
This is what causes arguments because both sides pick figures to suit their positions. |
Why do you think you speak for everyone, I'm sure there maybe a few who are unhappy with some situations but care not to comment. We both can't be right , or can we? | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:29 - Nov 19 with 460 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:30 - Nov 19 by felixstowe_jack |
How is the EU democratic. All 28 EU commissioners, who decide EU policies are appointed never elected. How is that democratic ?
Both the EU presidents are appointed never elected. How is that democratic.
The EU should not consider a democratic decision made by voters as a snub. They should accept individual democratic decision of members states.
Very few people who voted to leave regret it.
Inflation is higher in EU than UK
Unemployment in the EU is higher than the UK
Even growth in the EU is lower thsn in the UK.
The £ has risen against both the € and $ since we left |
For the record
"Accountability. The European Commission is held democratically accountable by the European Parliament, which has the right to approve and dismiss the entire political leadership of the Commission. The European Commission is also accountable for putting the EU budget into practice." |  |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:40 - Nov 19 with 445 views | majorraglan |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:03 - Nov 18 by Kilkennyjack |
Correct but its a tactical no.
All the lack of economic growth conversations are aimed at convincing people that we need to rejoin.
He is just not saying the rejoin bit openly yet ….
10 years done and we will move back. |
And you know this for a fact, where’s your evidence? Spouting this bull is just unhelpful.
The economic growth conversations are setting out fact, but I don’t think that’ll be the main driver for people’s decision making for a long time, immigration is the issue that people will focus on. Starmer wont start moves to reverse Brexit, he’ll be toast if he does. Any politician who starts the rejoining process without a 70%+ majority in favour of returning will be committing political suicide. Think Cameron.
Brexit has been a disaster, our politicians are to blame for that. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:41 - Nov 19 with 445 views | raynor94 |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:29 - Nov 19 by ReslovenSwan1 |
For the record
"Accountability. The European Commission is held democratically accountable by the European Parliament, which has the right to approve and dismiss the entire political leadership of the Commission. The European Commission is also accountable for putting the EU budget into practice." |
So they aren't elected | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:10 - Nov 19 with 398 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 20:40 - Nov 19 by majorraglan |
And you know this for a fact, where’s your evidence? Spouting this bull is just unhelpful.
The economic growth conversations are setting out fact, but I don’t think that’ll be the main driver for people’s decision making for a long time, immigration is the issue that people will focus on. Starmer wont start moves to reverse Brexit, he’ll be toast if he does. Any politician who starts the rejoining process without a 70%+ majority in favour of returning will be committing political suicide. Think Cameron.
Brexit has been a disaster, our politicians are to blame for that. |
Its an opinion, but how else can Starmer get the growth he openly says he needs.
10 years is a generational vote, so yes once its a big majority in the polls then its alignment time. Probably will not call it rejoin, but in effect it will be.
Might not even need a vote if its alignment.
Personally i think it needs a vote so the gammons have nothing to cry over. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:29 - Nov 19 with 376 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:10 - Nov 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Its an opinion, but how else can Starmer get the growth he openly says he needs.
10 years is a generational vote, so yes once its a big majority in the polls then its alignment time. Probably will not call it rejoin, but in effect it will be.
Might not even need a vote if its alignment.
Personally i think it needs a vote so the gammons have nothing to cry over. |
Not going to happen, like your independence dream. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:33 - Nov 19 with 334 views | majorraglan |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 10:30 - Nov 19 by felixstowe_jack |
How is the EU democratic. All 28 EU commissioners, who decide EU policies are appointed never elected. How is that democratic ?
Both the EU presidents are appointed never elected. How is that democratic.
The EU should not consider a democratic decision made by voters as a snub. They should accept individual democratic decision of members states.
Very few people who voted to leave regret it.
Inflation is higher in EU than UK
Unemployment in the EU is higher than the UK
Even growth in the EU is lower thsn in the UK.
The £ has risen against both the € and $ since we left |
Some of the claims you make about the figures are questionable, the difference between inflation figures depends on which measure is being used and the dates your quoting. Growth in the EU over the last 4 years is consistently higher than the U.K., when it comes to the £ v $ or € it is again dependent on which dates you use. Sterling has climbed above and dropped below the Brexit level of both competitor currencies over the last 4 years and as of this month it’s lower now than it was when Brexit took place. Unemployment in the EU is higher. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:36 - Nov 19 with 319 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:33 - Nov 19 by majorraglan |
Some of the claims you make about the figures are questionable, the difference between inflation figures depends on which measure is being used and the dates your quoting. Growth in the EU over the last 4 years is consistently higher than the U.K., when it comes to the £ v $ or € it is again dependent on which dates you use. Sterling has climbed above and dropped below the Brexit level of both competitor currencies over the last 4 years and as of this month it’s lower now than it was when Brexit took place. Unemployment in the EU is higher. |
So there's not much in it, depending on what timescale you use. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:38 - Nov 19 with 308 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 21:29 - Nov 19 by Whiterockin |
Not going to happen, like your independence dream. |
Hows Boris Johnson getting on these days ?
Not quite King of the World anymore ?
Queen Elizabeth had his number ….‘more suited for the stage’.
Indy is a dream, but its better to dream than accept a constitutional arrangement that was maybe fit for purpose back in 1535.
Does your lack of imagination hold you back at all ? | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:46 - Nov 19 with 295 views | Whiterockin |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:38 - Nov 19 by Kilkennyjack |
Hows Boris Johnson getting on these days ?
Not quite King of the World anymore ?
Queen Elizabeth had his number ….‘more suited for the stage’.
Indy is a dream, but its better to dream than accept a constitutional arrangement that was maybe fit for purpose back in 1535.
Does your lack of imagination hold you back at all ? |
Nothing holds me back. Johnson is history and rightly so, as is Brexit, life moves on and we try to make the best for ourselves and our families. Independence will never happen because the majority don't want it, that's democracy. | | | |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 09:19 - Nov 20 with 183 views | onehunglow |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:46 - Nov 19 by Whiterockin |
Nothing holds me back. Johnson is history and rightly so, as is Brexit, life moves on and we try to make the best for ourselves and our families. Independence will never happen because the majority don't want it, that's democracy. |
I wanted to remain.
Couldn’t understand those who wanted to leave and go into the unknown.
It hasn’t helped continental travel and I wish we hadn’t
BUT,we are gone and it’s pointless discussing it .
Like I am now  | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 15:13 - Nov 20 with 119 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Manchester Airport Police attack on 22:46 - Nov 19 by Whiterockin |
Nothing holds me back. Johnson is history and rightly so, as is Brexit, life moves on and we try to make the best for ourselves and our families. Independence will never happen because the majority don't want it, that's democracy. |
Cant argue with that. Facts.
A third of people in Wales do want Indy though, from say 10% 20 years ago.
Its higher again in the younger age groups.
Our time will come. | |
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| Manchester Airport Police attack on 15:19 - Nov 20 with 115 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
If the CPS do not prosecute something is badly wrong. It would be a green light for minority group Males to assault female police officers without consequences.
This would make it more likely that male police officers will dish out retaliation without going through proper procedures and is not in the public interest. | |
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