| Cop 29 13:32 - Nov 12 with 937 views | raynor94 |
I see this morning Starmer has pledged to cut the UK emissions by 81% by 2035.
What is the point, when the US China and India can't even be bothered to attend.
No doubt we will be at the front of the queue to pay reparations to the so called poorer nations.
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| Cop 29 on 09:45 - Nov 14 with 225 views | Boundy |
| Cop 29 on 11:34 - Nov 13 by Scotia |
The sea is much cleaner now than it was 20 or more years ago. The rivers also have a lot less human shit in them, it's just been replaced by cow and chicken shit. |
Even the quality of our drinking water has now become suspect , my theory too many buying bottled water has meant the water companies do not feel the need to maintain standards ,of anything it would appear. Blue badge status has been removed from a lot of our beaches so its been steady decline over the past 20 years. |  |
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| Cop 29 on 11:46 - Nov 14 with 201 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 09:45 - Nov 14 by Boundy |
Even the quality of our drinking water has now become suspect , my theory too many buying bottled water has meant the water companies do not feel the need to maintain standards ,of anything it would appear. Blue badge status has been removed from a lot of our beaches so its been steady decline over the past 20 years. |
Water quality probably hasn't improved massively on the whole in that last 20 years, but has improved massively on the 40 years before that. It's hugely dependant on weather. I wouldn't want ot go for a swim off the coast of valencia at the moment.
Blue flags aren't the best comparison, they are as much about facilities on the beach as water quality. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 15:57 - Nov 14 with 153 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 08:07 - Nov 14 by Scotia |
I agree. Privatising the water companies was absolute madness. Nobody should be able to make a profit of any description from water. It's a good job oxygen can't be privatised.
I agree regarding ultaprocessed food too. But we need to stump up for some of the fault here, I think a burger from McDonalds should cost around £5 (a regular burger, not big Mac), 6 eggs a similar amont and a pint of milk should cost more than a pint of beer. Companies are putting pressure on the farmers and hitting their profits becasue we want them to. The farmers cut corners, mass produce stuff and destroy the planet.
We want things too cheap and easily available. We're basically fat and lazy. |
It's the copmanies that are causing the problem ,not the farmers. Farmers are being driven bankrupt but the supermarkets nake massive profits. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 18:19 - Nov 14 with 134 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 15:57 - Nov 14 by SullutaCreturned |
It's the copmanies that are causing the problem ,not the farmers. Farmers are being driven bankrupt but the supermarkets nake massive profits. |
Farmers don't have much choice really, but we want too much. I honestly don't think we'd be prepared to pay for sustainably produced food. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 19:04 - Nov 14 with 124 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 18:19 - Nov 14 by Scotia |
Farmers don't have much choice really, but we want too much. I honestly don't think we'd be prepared to pay for sustainably produced food. |
What we need is less cheap UHP food and healthy food at a reaasonable price. We could produce less food in reality because so much is thrown away, by householders and by supermarkets.
Again the big problem is corporations, it is the intensive farming that is part of the problem. look at the Wye valley, the river itself, as you said polluted by chicken poo from intensive chicken farms. Run off from pesticides is damaging the rivers and seas too.
That's why all this climate stuff is nonsense, they want to stop us emitting CO2 yet they still allow us to pollute the land, pollute the seas and they fly off in thousands of flights to the COP meetings to have expensive jollies at our expense.
It's all bullshit. the politiucians are treating us like fools. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 19:17 - Nov 14 with 116 views | onehunglow |
| Cop 29 on 18:19 - Nov 14 by Scotia |
Farmers don't have much choice really, but we want too much. I honestly don't think we'd be prepared to pay for sustainably produced food. |
Good point
Not unlike w ting a welfare state but not being prepared to pay for it | |
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| Cop 29 on 09:22 - Nov 15 with 61 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 19:04 - Nov 14 by SullutaCreturned |
What we need is less cheap UHP food and healthy food at a reaasonable price. We could produce less food in reality because so much is thrown away, by householders and by supermarkets.
Again the big problem is corporations, it is the intensive farming that is part of the problem. look at the Wye valley, the river itself, as you said polluted by chicken poo from intensive chicken farms. Run off from pesticides is damaging the rivers and seas too.
That's why all this climate stuff is nonsense, they want to stop us emitting CO2 yet they still allow us to pollute the land, pollute the seas and they fly off in thousands of flights to the COP meetings to have expensive jollies at our expense.
It's all bullshit. the politiucians are treating us like fools. |
We want to consume too much food that uses too many resources to produce.
It's mental that we'd happily pay £5 for what is basically water, malt, hops and barley heated up a bit and chucked in a barrel but expect to pay less than £1 for milk and all the resources needed to produce that.
There's a very good reason why most of the world doesn't use much dairy produce. | | | |
| Cop 29 on 15:13 - Nov 15 with 36 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Cop 29 on 09:22 - Nov 15 by Scotia |
We want to consume too much food that uses too many resources to produce.
It's mental that we'd happily pay £5 for what is basically water, malt, hops and barley heated up a bit and chucked in a barrel but expect to pay less than £1 for milk and all the resources needed to produce that.
There's a very good reason why most of the world doesn't use much dairy produce. |
In 2019, about 6 billion people, or more than 80% of the world's population, regularly consumed milk or other dairy products. Milk is produced and consumed in almost all countries, and is one of the top five agricultural commodities in most countries
oatly.com/things-we-do/initiatives/schoolmilk/global-milk-and-dairy-consumption | | | |
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| Cop 29 on 15:45 - Nov 15 with 22 views | Scotia |
| Cop 29 on 15:13 - Nov 15 by SullutaCreturned |
In 2019, about 6 billion people, or more than 80% of the world's population, regularly consumed milk or other dairy products. Milk is produced and consumed in almost all countries, and is one of the top five agricultural commodities in most countries
oatly.com/things-we-do/initiatives/schoolmilk/global-milk-and-dairy-consumption |
But in nowhere near the quantities that we do in the west. China for example historically use very little dairy, it's recently gaining in popularity due to students studying in the UK taking their tastes back home.
My point is it's popular in countries that use intensive, almost industrial scale agriculture. It's a filthy industry which forces down the cost of food to artificially low levels to satisfy demand. | | | |
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