| Israeli fans on 17:09 - Nov 11 with 1058 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Owen jones has been the official Israel hater-in-chief for years now. Can be be trusted as a reliable impartial source given his obvious and outspoken hatred of all things Israel? |  |
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| Israeli fans on 17:42 - Nov 11 with 1034 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Israeli fans on 17:09 - Nov 11 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Owen jones has been the official Israel hater-in-chief for years now. Can be be trusted as a reliable impartial source given his obvious and outspoken hatred of all things Israel? |
Rabbini is cut from the same cloth, not a reliable source. An advocate of a one state Palestinian solution. [Post edited 11 Nov 18:15]
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| Israeli fans on 18:12 - Nov 11 with 1006 views | controversial_jack |
| Israeli fans on 17:42 - Nov 11 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Rabbini is cut from the same cloth, not a reliable source. An advocate of a one state Palestinian solution. [Post edited 11 Nov 18:15]
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I expected this response from those who have been proven wrong. I can find more sources if you like. Just accept it! |  | | |
| Israeli fans on 18:30 - Nov 11 with 978 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Israeli fans on 18:12 - Nov 11 by controversial_jack |
I expected this response from those who have been proven wrong. I can find more sources if you like. Just accept it! |
Find sources that are honest then people can believe it.
Owen Jones called the football fans "genocidal" so no bias there eh!
Mouin Rabbani is a Dutch Palestinian, advocate of a one state solution....bias much?
Go on then, find those sources... | | | |
| Israeli fans on 18:52 - Nov 11 with 963 views | AnotherJohn |
You can't undo real-time chronology. The social media posts planning the attacks and marshalling the taxi drivers and other participants appeared on the web more than a day before anything in Owen Jones' video. As we all know, posts on the web are always caught in some archive, and can't be erased by rewriting history.
By the way, does Contro know that Jones was all for leaving the EU over Greece and the Troika, for a good while before he decided there was mileage in falling in with Labour group think?
Edit: Examples added
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/europe/artc-evidence-from-whatsapp- [Post edited 11 Nov 19:04]
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| Israeli fans on 18:52 - Nov 11 with 960 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Israeli fans on 18:30 - Nov 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Find sources that are honest then people can believe it.
Owen Jones called the football fans "genocidal" so no bias there eh!
Mouin Rabbani is a Dutch Palestinian, advocate of a one state solution....bias much?
Go on then, find those sources... |
a) One state solution Palestine. Hamas
b) Two state solution Palestine and Israel. EU sort of
c) One state solution Greater Israel.( Long term) Likud.
b) has to be imposed without agreement of extremists on both sides. It is perfectly feasible. |  |
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| Israeli fans on 19:04 - Nov 11 with 948 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Israeli fans on 18:52 - Nov 11 by ReslovenSwan1 |
a) One state solution Palestine. Hamas
b) Two state solution Palestine and Israel. EU sort of
c) One state solution Greater Israel.( Long term) Likud.
b) has to be imposed without agreement of extremists on both sides. It is perfectly feasible. |
Yeah, you didn't have to explain it. | | | |
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| Israeli fans on 19:13 - Nov 11 with 930 views | AnotherJohn |
| Israeli fans on 18:52 - Nov 11 by ReslovenSwan1 |
a) One state solution Palestine. Hamas
b) Two state solution Palestine and Israel. EU sort of
c) One state solution Greater Israel.( Long term) Likud.
b) has to be imposed without agreement of extremists on both sides. It is perfectly feasible. |
Re the final line (I won't say final solution) are you familiar with UN Resolution 1701 spelling out what was supposed to happen in South Lebanon, and then what the UN peace keeping force actually achieved? I fear something similar is all too likely to happen with the two state solution. [Post edited 11 Nov 19:16]
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| Israeli fans on 19:33 - Nov 11 with 899 views | SullutaCreturned |
Well a bad source is obvious, like you, you are a bad spource because of your continued posting of Russian propaganda.
40k 
aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/16/russia-ukraine-wartime-deaths
and from that link,
More than 71,000 Russian soldiers have been identified and confirmed to have been killed in Ukraine, according to a late-September report by the independent Russian media outlet Mediazona. | | | |
| Israeli fans on 19:44 - Nov 11 with 882 views | onehunglow |
| Israeli fans on 19:33 - Nov 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Well a bad source is obvious, like you, you are a bad spource because of your continued posting of Russian propaganda.
40k
aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/16/russia-ukraine-wartime-deaths
and from that link,
More than 71,000 Russian soldiers have been identified and confirmed to have been killed in Ukraine, according to a late-September report by the independent Russian media outlet Mediazona. |
100 k
40k
71 k
Which ever ,it’s a pretty depressing read
Why not simply get the fork out of Ukraine
And Hamas release hostages ,and Israel withdraw
Go Donny J.
Couple of days | |
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| Israeli fans on 19:44 - Nov 11 with 883 views | controversial_jack |
| Israeli fans on 19:33 - Nov 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Well a bad source is obvious, like you, you are a bad spource because of your continued posting of Russian propaganda.
40k
aljazeera.com/news/2024/10/16/russia-ukraine-wartime-deaths
and from that link,
More than 71,000 Russian soldiers have been identified and confirmed to have been killed in Ukraine, according to a late-September report by the independent Russian media outlet Mediazona. |
As you acknowledge Al Jazeera is a good source
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/11/8/israeli-football-fans-clash-with-pr | | | |
| Israeli fans on 20:10 - Nov 11 with 859 views | KeithHaynes |
To CJ, sometimes it really doesn’t matter. |  |
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| Israeli fans on 20:29 - Nov 11 with 834 views | Boundy |
| Israeli fans on 18:12 - Nov 11 by controversial_jack |
I expected this response from those who have been proven wrong. I can find more sources if you like. Just accept it! |
I accept nothing nor believe anything you post so there we are then. | |
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| Israeli fans on 20:34 - Nov 11 with 827 views | SullutaCreturned |
See, you can do it. I take it as you also agree that Al Jazeera is a good source that you accept the Russians have lost a lot more than 40K? | | | |
| Israeli fans on 08:32 - Nov 12 with 694 views | AnotherJohn |
| Israeli fans on 23:30 - Nov 11 by controversial_jack |
Link doesn't open. Let's get back to the topic of the Israeli fans starting the trouble with their racist chants and other bad behaviour. There are numerous sources including the Amsterdam police who have confirmed this. Yet you and some others still don't want to accept it [Post edited 11 Nov 23:35]
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And you don't accept that there is clear evidence that pro-Palestinian groups started planning to attack the Maccabi fans days before they arrived in Amsterdam. You completely ignore chronology. Some of this is likely to come out when the persons arrested come to trial. | | | |
| Israeli fans on 09:05 - Nov 12 with 664 views | onehunglow |
It’s like this
Israel and Jews will always be to blame
This isn’t news | |
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| Israeli fans on 10:15 - Nov 12 with 642 views | controversial_jack |
| Israeli fans on 08:32 - Nov 12 by AnotherJohn |
And you don't accept that there is clear evidence that pro-Palestinian groups started planning to attack the Maccabi fans days before they arrived in Amsterdam. You completely ignore chronology. Some of this is likely to come out when the persons arrested come to trial. |
No that didn't happen. Maccabi fans have a history of racism and violence, they tried it this time and came unstuck. Do you wonder why 100 Dutch got arrested and not one Maacabi fan, despite there be clear video evidence of racist chants, attacking people and property and disrespecting the minutes silence. | | | |
| Israeli fans on 12:37 - Nov 12 with 589 views | theloneranger |
| Israeli fans on 10:15 - Nov 12 by controversial_jack |
No that didn't happen. Maccabi fans have a history of racism and violence, they tried it this time and came unstuck. Do you wonder why 100 Dutch got arrested and not one Maacabi fan, despite there be clear video evidence of racist chants, attacking people and property and disrespecting the minutes silence. |
It's very strange you fail to mention the thugs chanting "Cancer Jews" violently rampaging across Amsterdam last night - culminating in the torching of a tram.
You also fail to mention that when these anti Semitic thugs were hunting down the football supporters - they were chanting "Kristallnacht"
The Dutch authorities have social media evidence this word was being used extensively, days before the football match - when plans were being made for the attacks, and to celebrate the 86th Anniversary of "Night of Broken Glass."
There again, it's not very strange, when people see what you write and where your support lies. |  |
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| Israeli fans on 12:54 - Nov 12 with 575 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
It seems to me the general populace are dissatisfied with their leaders response to the disgusting activities of Hamas and even more so the gross slaughter of innocents by Israel.
The main obstacle to a long-standing peaceful solution is the Likud party in Israel and their 100 plan. They are playing the long game which means long term violence.
Average citizens who take offence at this strategy wi get called anti Semitic. Being anti Semitic criteria is a very low bar designed to put liberals e off balance | |
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| Israeli fans on 13:04 - Nov 12 with 568 views | controversial_jack |
| Israeli fans on 12:37 - Nov 12 by theloneranger |
It's very strange you fail to mention the thugs chanting "Cancer Jews" violently rampaging across Amsterdam last night - culminating in the torching of a tram.
You also fail to mention that when these anti Semitic thugs were hunting down the football supporters - they were chanting "Kristallnacht"
The Dutch authorities have social media evidence this word was being used extensively, days before the football match - when plans were being made for the attacks, and to celebrate the 86th Anniversary of "Night of Broken Glass."
There again, it's not very strange, when people see what you write and where your support lies. |
Yes, there were minor riots last night, but it doesn't excuse the behaviour of the Macabi fans who started it. How would you feel if opposing supporters disrespected the minutes silence at the liberty?
Tearing down a Palestinian flag from a residential house, attacking a taxi driver and smashing up his vehicle. Attacking Pali demonstrators, chanting death to all arabs, making fun of dead children and even taking the Piss out of the Spanish floods.
I'm surprised the Dutch were so restrained. If England or Russian fans did that, there would be uproar. but it seems acceptable in your book
Thankfully, the media is now reporting on what really happened and not the lies that you chose to swallow hook line and sinker | | | |
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