Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 23:45 - Nov 9 with 1036 views | ReslovenSwan1 | Better than Cullen without doubt.Vipotnik and Bianchini need more time to prove themselves. | |
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Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 00:31 - Nov 10 with 1008 views | KeithHaynes | Jerry is not the answer. | |
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Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 08:07 - Nov 10 with 884 views | Boundy | He fell over. | |
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Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 08:23 - Nov 10 with 868 views | Whiterockin |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 00:31 - Nov 10 by KeithHaynes | Jerry is not the answer. |
If Yates is the answer we have massive problems. Poor signing that Colman has distanced himself from. His future is elsewhere. | | | |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 08:53 - Nov 10 with 824 views | Dr_Winston |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 08:23 - Nov 10 by Whiterockin | If Yates is the answer we have massive problems. Poor signing that Colman has distanced himself from. His future is elsewhere. |
Was comfortably on target to at least equal what he had the year before with Blackpool before Williams came in. Williams didn't rate him. Gave him few chances or support. Cullen became his top choice, despite even than and even more obviously so now being a considerably lesser player. It's quite funny that he's the second striker now that our fans slagged off and a manager has preferred Cullen to who has gone to show him up elsewhere. Meanwhile Cullen gets a 3 1/2 year extension. That's the decision Coleman should be distancing himself from. | |
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Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 09:01 - Nov 10 with 799 views | Whiterockin |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 08:53 - Nov 10 by Dr_Winston | Was comfortably on target to at least equal what he had the year before with Blackpool before Williams came in. Williams didn't rate him. Gave him few chances or support. Cullen became his top choice, despite even than and even more obviously so now being a considerably lesser player. It's quite funny that he's the second striker now that our fans slagged off and a manager has preferred Cullen to who has gone to show him up elsewhere. Meanwhile Cullen gets a 3 1/2 year extension. That's the decision Coleman should be distancing himself from. |
Colman stated that he actually took up his responsibilities after that transfer window and stated that he had nothing to do with signings that window. Budgets had been set and targets agreed before his arrival. I know you like Yates and don't rate Cullen buts that's not my point, do you think he will ever play for us again. In my opinion he never will. | | | |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 09:08 - Nov 10 with 773 views | Dr_Winston |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 09:01 - Nov 10 by Whiterockin | Colman stated that he actually took up his responsibilities after that transfer window and stated that he had nothing to do with signings that window. Budgets had been set and targets agreed before his arrival. I know you like Yates and don't rate Cullen buts that's not my point, do you think he will ever play for us again. In my opinion he never will. |
As long as Williams is around no. There's clearly nothing for him here and we're better off hoping that Derby make the deal permanent. Yates no doubt will be too. I can and will continue to maintain that he's another in a long list of players that our fan base preferred to criticise than to stop and ponder for just a few moments as to whether everything is entirely their fault. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 09:49 - Nov 10 with 706 views | onehunglow |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 09:08 - Nov 10 by Dr_Winston | As long as Williams is around no. There's clearly nothing for him here and we're better off hoping that Derby make the deal permanent. Yates no doubt will be too. I can and will continue to maintain that he's another in a long list of players that our fan base preferred to criticise than to stop and ponder for just a few moments as to whether everything is entirely their fault. |
He started off alright but then became worse so yiu could well be right He is show a la k of courage ,for me anyway. Having said that Gyokeres,Whittaker,now Vip are all buying the pale . Itโs why I commented about players being badly treated / coached by previous managers. I just hope Williams is learning but I am still doubtful of his ability to actually coach and improve players . Those that have improved ,like Darling ,have sone so because they have been left to play in their best position. Darling and Cabango play best when Grimes isnโt coming back and getting the ball . | |
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Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:24 - Nov 10 with 655 views | RichardO | It seems as if Williams first requirement from his centre forward choice is a player who can chase down defenders while cutting out the angles reducing the passing options available to them. the high press. All well and good if your teams mates are high up the park to complete the press effectively and we are in a defensive shape with pace to counter the long ball. Even then the high press should target the weakest passing player working the press in a way to get them on the ball and taking advantage of the errors, Ben was often left with poor options available to him he is a far better player now amd has more options but as with all players mistakes still happen trying to force play. I think Cullen's press is excellent but Yate's pressing was abysmal so much so headless chicken springs to mind but is that really the main requirement of a centre forward? Neither Yates and Cullen have great pace or stature, are they going to bother centrehalves aerially, they try but seem to give away free kicks as CH crumple to the floor happy in the knowledge that if the freekick isn't given then cover is in place because with our wings permanently staying out wide and the midfield drop deep there is little support for our CF.. They look isolated and even if they get ball to feet if they are not fought off the ball they have very little options available and then we call them poor players, why to our wingers have to stay wide all the time, we have to fullbacks who would love to press forward into emptied channels, especially on the left where we have no left footed wingers at the moment Tymon has to be used driving down that side to get better first time crosses in. The general feeling for me are thing look better especially when Grimes gets forward more and we support our CF better through the middle it sucks players in to leave space out wide, we have seen both Key and Tymon push into the middle of the park at times because William's knows he has issues there but it gets congested as they can do it to soon when we haven't got out of our half leaving us with Grimes deep too often. We have seen the likes of Eom and Ronald being asked to compete out wide for the aerial ball to try and gain ground up the pitch and relieve pressure, more than happy at times to let them join our CF to compete aerially in the middle mixing play up. The injuries to Eom and to Cooper have meant different options now being used and Vipotnik and Bianchini getting game time, Pearl-Harris on the right winger who would have seen that coming off so well. William's is taking his time to get our players bedded in to positions they seem comfortable in, it won't work every time, we will be press deep against Burnley with us being away from home can we relieve that pressure, hoping we can but we really need to support our forward players be it out on the wing or in the CF position so they aren't isolated and made to look poor players, surely they are not as bad as it seems. Bianchini, Pearl-Harris, Yates, Cullen, Vipotnik, Kuharevich , Yates and I'm sure plenty from the past have been written off in the past as useless, it is a team game generally if one player looks bad then there are quite a few others in a team that will look bad , be it used wrong, set up badly or just don't seem to work together, Key and Ronald most would say are good players but they have not hit it off together at all. | | | |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:34 - Nov 10 with 631 views | Whiterockin |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:24 - Nov 10 by RichardO | It seems as if Williams first requirement from his centre forward choice is a player who can chase down defenders while cutting out the angles reducing the passing options available to them. the high press. All well and good if your teams mates are high up the park to complete the press effectively and we are in a defensive shape with pace to counter the long ball. Even then the high press should target the weakest passing player working the press in a way to get them on the ball and taking advantage of the errors, Ben was often left with poor options available to him he is a far better player now amd has more options but as with all players mistakes still happen trying to force play. I think Cullen's press is excellent but Yate's pressing was abysmal so much so headless chicken springs to mind but is that really the main requirement of a centre forward? Neither Yates and Cullen have great pace or stature, are they going to bother centrehalves aerially, they try but seem to give away free kicks as CH crumple to the floor happy in the knowledge that if the freekick isn't given then cover is in place because with our wings permanently staying out wide and the midfield drop deep there is little support for our CF.. They look isolated and even if they get ball to feet if they are not fought off the ball they have very little options available and then we call them poor players, why to our wingers have to stay wide all the time, we have to fullbacks who would love to press forward into emptied channels, especially on the left where we have no left footed wingers at the moment Tymon has to be used driving down that side to get better first time crosses in. The general feeling for me are thing look better especially when Grimes gets forward more and we support our CF better through the middle it sucks players in to leave space out wide, we have seen both Key and Tymon push into the middle of the park at times because William's knows he has issues there but it gets congested as they can do it to soon when we haven't got out of our half leaving us with Grimes deep too often. We have seen the likes of Eom and Ronald being asked to compete out wide for the aerial ball to try and gain ground up the pitch and relieve pressure, more than happy at times to let them join our CF to compete aerially in the middle mixing play up. The injuries to Eom and to Cooper have meant different options now being used and Vipotnik and Bianchini getting game time, Pearl-Harris on the right winger who would have seen that coming off so well. William's is taking his time to get our players bedded in to positions they seem comfortable in, it won't work every time, we will be press deep against Burnley with us being away from home can we relieve that pressure, hoping we can but we really need to support our forward players be it out on the wing or in the CF position so they aren't isolated and made to look poor players, surely they are not as bad as it seems. Bianchini, Pearl-Harris, Yates, Cullen, Vipotnik, Kuharevich , Yates and I'm sure plenty from the past have been written off in the past as useless, it is a team game generally if one player looks bad then there are quite a few others in a team that will look bad , be it used wrong, set up badly or just don't seem to work together, Key and Ronald most would say are good players but they have not hit it off together at all. |
Often you need to pick your best team to get results, not necessarily your best players. | | | |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:37 - Nov 10 with 621 views | KeithHaynes |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 09:01 - Nov 10 by Whiterockin | Colman stated that he actually took up his responsibilities after that transfer window and stated that he had nothing to do with signings that window. Budgets had been set and targets agreed before his arrival. I know you like Yates and don't rate Cullen buts that's not my point, do you think he will ever play for us again. In my opinion he never will. |
The problem there is that what he stated is untrue. | |
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Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:43 - Nov 10 with 596 views | Whiterockin |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:37 - Nov 10 by KeithHaynes | The problem there is that what he stated is untrue. |
We all know that, but do you think he was trying to distance himself from the transfer window or just the financial year. | | | |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:48 - Nov 10 with 578 views | KeithHaynes |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:43 - Nov 10 by Whiterockin | We all know that, but do you think he was trying to distance himself from the transfer window or just the financial year. |
The finances for sure. | |
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Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 11:10 - Nov 10 with 555 views | RichardO |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 10:34 - Nov 10 by Whiterockin | Often you need to pick your best team to get results, not necessarily your best players. |
It has been done many times before, players on the bench only used as impact players because they only seem to have a knack of scoring late in a game , different players and formations used for home and away games which these days seem to be need in different halves of games | | | |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 12:50 - Nov 10 with 485 views | max936 |
Jerry pele ๐ฎ I hope he has a recall option on 11:10 - Nov 10 by RichardO | It has been done many times before, players on the bench only used as impact players because they only seem to have a knack of scoring late in a game , different players and formations used for home and away games which these days seem to be need in different halves of games |
Agreed. Yates was short on anticipation and very often he couldn't find is feet trying to hard maybe, but in his defence the chances created for him were far and few between so you can imagine his frustration and lack of composure on times. Seems to be enjoying his football at Derby, but he's not a regular consistent goal scorer there either at the moment at least. | |
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