| The Donald 12:02 - Nov 9 with 3093 views | mangohilljack |
Not even in office yet, and already on the verge of ending wars.
Add that to the epic leftist meltdowns, and it’s shaping up to be the defining moment of 2024.
Buckle up, because the next four years are going to be the best you’ve ever lived. |  | | |  |
| The Donald on 19:38 - Nov 10 with 724 views | onehunglow |
| The Donald on 19:28 - Nov 10 by SullutaCreturned |
I was comparing the situation. If we allow Putin to get away with this, do you think he'll stop there?
That's the problem with despots, give them an inch and they take a mile and go looking for another mile.
My grandfather didn't go to war because he wanted to but he and the millions of others knew they had to.
Putin has to be stopped. And you can cite your experience but I know a few ex forces and have family serving today, they all say we have to Stop Putin with one exception and he doesn't give a toss either way apparently. |
We need to help Ukraine as the Baltic states will be next
Russia is looking to get back its former lands of occupation.
It’s all about pride
It’s about power
Putin demands it | |
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| The Donald on 20:38 - Nov 10 with 689 views | Dr_Winston |
Russia has thus far taken about a fifth of Ukraine and it's cost them more than 100,000 dead and another 400,000 wounded, not to mention the depletion of most of their stocks of up to date materiel. They're not shipping in North Koreans because things are going well.
I doubt very much that they'd have anything like the military capability that they'd need to overrun the Baltic States. |  |
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| The Donald on 23:26 - Nov 10 with 613 views | Kilkennyjack |
If Trump delivers peace in Ukraine then that will be by far his greatest achievement.
Enough people have died.
I really hope he can do it for all our sakes. |  |
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| The Donald on 08:51 - Nov 11 with 580 views | onehunglow |
| The Donald on 20:38 - Nov 10 by Dr_Winston |
Russia has thus far taken about a fifth of Ukraine and it's cost them more than 100,000 dead and another 400,000 wounded, not to mention the depletion of most of their stocks of up to date materiel. They're not shipping in North Koreans because things are going well.
I doubt very much that they'd have anything like the military capability that they'd need to overrun the Baltic States. |
Maybe Iran,China,North Korea would assist | |
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| The Donald on 09:27 - Nov 11 with 574 views | Scotia |
| The Donald on 23:26 - Nov 10 by Kilkennyjack |
If Trump delivers peace in Ukraine then that will be by far his greatest achievement.
Enough people have died.
I really hope he can do it for all our sakes. |
It totally depends on the cost of that peace to the rest of the world.
Ukraine could be at peace tomorrow if they surrended. | | | |
| The Donald on 09:57 - Nov 11 with 559 views | controversial_jack |
| The Donald on 20:38 - Nov 10 by Dr_Winston |
Russia has thus far taken about a fifth of Ukraine and it's cost them more than 100,000 dead and another 400,000 wounded, not to mention the depletion of most of their stocks of up to date materiel. They're not shipping in North Koreans because things are going well.
I doubt very much that they'd have anything like the military capability that they'd need to overrun the Baltic States. |
They haven't lost anywhere near that. 40k dead was the last i heard. There's no shortage of volunteers either. They have plenty of stocks and their factories are working full time making ammo and equipment. There are no N korean troops involved either
You are correct though, to take on anything else would be difficult and costly. There's no evidence or suggestions they want to capture more than just the Donbass
They would defo have the capabilities. They have the equipment and knowledge. Russian troops are probably the world's best right now. They have the equipment, training and experience - they are actually doing it right now | | | |
| The Donald on 10:00 - Nov 11 with 556 views | onehunglow |
| The Donald on 09:57 - Nov 11 by controversial_jack |
They haven't lost anywhere near that. 40k dead was the last i heard. There's no shortage of volunteers either. They have plenty of stocks and their factories are working full time making ammo and equipment. There are no N korean troops involved either
You are correct though, to take on anything else would be difficult and costly. There's no evidence or suggestions they want to capture more than just the Donbass
They would defo have the capabilities. They have the equipment and knowledge. Russian troops are probably the world's best right now. They have the equipment, training and experience - they are actually doing it right now |
Ok.
40,000.
That’s ok then | |
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| The Donald on 11:23 - Nov 11 with 534 views | pencoedjack |
| The Donald on 09:27 - Nov 11 by Scotia |
It totally depends on the cost of that peace to the rest of the world.
Ukraine could be at peace tomorrow if they surrended. |
If France invaded Kent we would as British people say OK you have it to stop the war as there have been too many deaths on both sides.
I know Ukraine / Russia is a bit more complex due to old territories but personally, I don't think Putin would then just stop.
You would also have the Ukrainians in the new Russian area always kicking off.
A horrible situation that DT will sort out I'm sure. |  | | |
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| The Donald on 12:57 - Nov 11 with 499 views | union_jack |
| The Donald on 09:57 - Nov 11 by controversial_jack |
They haven't lost anywhere near that. 40k dead was the last i heard. There's no shortage of volunteers either. They have plenty of stocks and their factories are working full time making ammo and equipment. There are no N korean troops involved either
You are correct though, to take on anything else would be difficult and costly. There's no evidence or suggestions they want to capture more than just the Donbass
They would defo have the capabilities. They have the equipment and knowledge. Russian troops are probably the world's best right now. They have the equipment, training and experience - they are actually doing it right now |
Did you not read what DrW said above. In case you didn’t, I’ll repeat it.
I they wouldn’t have drafted in Nirth Korean troops if things were going well.
And as fo Russian troops being the best in the world. Well, you couldn’t make it up. Except you just did! |  |
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| The Donald on 13:02 - Nov 11 with 492 views | controversial_jack |
| The Donald on 10:00 - Nov 11 by onehunglow |
Ok.
40,000.
That’s ok then |
Less than the Yanks lost in Vietnam | | | |
| The Donald on 16:30 - Nov 11 with 453 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Donald on 11:23 - Nov 11 by pencoedjack |
If France invaded Kent we would as British people say OK you have it to stop the war as there have been too many deaths on both sides.
I know Ukraine / Russia is a bit more complex due to old territories but personally, I don't think Putin would then just stop.
You would also have the Ukrainians in the new Russian area always kicking off.
A horrible situation that DT will sort out I'm sure. |
Yes i would be happy to trade Kent for peace with France.
Its a great idea tbh.
The French are sure to do a better job than the Tories. | |
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| The Donald on 16:32 - Nov 11 with 451 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The Donald on 09:27 - Nov 11 by Scotia |
It totally depends on the cost of that peace to the rest of the world.
Ukraine could be at peace tomorrow if they surrended. |
Every war ends in talking, just a question of how many poor souls have to perish first.
Its never the like of Johnson or Trumper who fight. | |
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| The Donald on 17:26 - Nov 11 with 429 views | majorraglan |
| The Donald on 09:57 - Nov 11 by controversial_jack |
They haven't lost anywhere near that. 40k dead was the last i heard. There's no shortage of volunteers either. They have plenty of stocks and their factories are working full time making ammo and equipment. There are no N korean troops involved either
You are correct though, to take on anything else would be difficult and costly. There's no evidence or suggestions they want to capture more than just the Donbass
They would defo have the capabilities. They have the equipment and knowledge. Russian troops are probably the world's best right now. They have the equipment, training and experience - they are actually doing it right now |
Are you tripping? | | | |
| The Donald on 17:36 - Nov 11 with 424 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Donald on 17:26 - Nov 11 by majorraglan |
Are you tripping? |
Trolling, not tripping. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The Donald on 18:38 - Nov 11 with 407 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Donald on 23:26 - Nov 10 by Kilkennyjack |
If Trump delivers peace in Ukraine then that will be by far his greatest achievement.
Enough people have died.
I really hope he can do it for all our sakes. |
Even if he gives Putin exactly what he wants? That's not peace that is appeaement pure and simple.
Give in to Putin on this and he'll look elsewhere and then what? | | | |
| The Donald on 18:39 - Nov 11 with 403 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Donald on 20:38 - Nov 10 by Dr_Winston |
Russia has thus far taken about a fifth of Ukraine and it's cost them more than 100,000 dead and another 400,000 wounded, not to mention the depletion of most of their stocks of up to date materiel. They're not shipping in North Koreans because things are going well.
I doubt very much that they'd have anything like the military capability that they'd need to overrun the Baltic States. |
Maybe not straight away but he'll be building his capability back up and if he's allowed this murderous theft he'll go after other targets, appeasing him here will have him thinking we are too weak. | | | |
| The Donald on 18:43 - Nov 11 with 401 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Donald on 18:39 - Nov 11 by SullutaCreturned |
Maybe not straight away but he'll be building his capability back up and if he's allowed this murderous theft he'll go after other targets, appeasing him here will have him thinking we are too weak. |
It'll take them years to rebuild what they've lost in Ukraine, and their likely targets will be beefing up their own defences.
The Baltic states are all NATO members, and even without the US they'll have more than enough to smash them in a conventional conflict. Polish rearmament alone is something to see. A standing army of 300,000, thousands of modern tanks, attack helicopters and artillery pieces. | |
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| The Donald on 19:08 - Nov 11 with 388 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Donald on 18:43 - Nov 11 by Dr_Winston |
It'll take them years to rebuild what they've lost in Ukraine, and their likely targets will be beefing up their own defences.
The Baltic states are all NATO members, and even without the US they'll have more than enough to smash them in a conventional conflict. Polish rearmament alone is something to see. A standing army of 300,000, thousands of modern tanks, attack helicopters and artillery pieces. |
That's not what concerns me, my issue is with appeasing hin now and giving him the idea he can get away with more.
It won't take that long to churn out more materiel and while that's happening he can draft and train more troops.
He has to be shown in very certain terms that we will not stand for it. | | | |
| The Donald on 19:11 - Nov 11 with 385 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Donald on 09:57 - Nov 11 by controversial_jack |
They haven't lost anywhere near that. 40k dead was the last i heard. There's no shortage of volunteers either. They have plenty of stocks and their factories are working full time making ammo and equipment. There are no N korean troops involved either
You are correct though, to take on anything else would be difficult and costly. There's no evidence or suggestions they want to capture more than just the Donbass
They would defo have the capabilities. They have the equipment and knowledge. Russian troops are probably the world's best right now. They have the equipment, training and experience - they are actually doing it right now |
Yeah, if Russian troops were that good they'd have steamrollered Ukraine a long while back.
In a few weeks....
You've run out of material, your stand up career is over, go fish. | | | |
| The Donald on 05:35 - Nov 12 with 336 views | Plankton |
| The Donald on 09:57 - Nov 11 by controversial_jack |
They haven't lost anywhere near that. 40k dead was the last i heard. There's no shortage of volunteers either. They have plenty of stocks and their factories are working full time making ammo and equipment. There are no N korean troops involved either
You are correct though, to take on anything else would be difficult and costly. There's no evidence or suggestions they want to capture more than just the Donbass
They would defo have the capabilities. They have the equipment and knowledge. Russian troops are probably the world's best right now. They have the equipment, training and experience - they are actually doing it right now |
And the award for the most brainless, misinformed twot on this board gives to..... | | | |
| The Donald on 07:08 - Nov 12 with 324 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Donald on 19:08 - Nov 11 by SullutaCreturned |
That's not what concerns me, my issue is with appeasing hin now and giving him the idea he can get away with more.
It won't take that long to churn out more materiel and while that's happening he can draft and train more troops.
He has to be shown in very certain terms that we will not stand for it. |
Yes, but everyone else is also strengthening in the meantime, and doing it better than Russia can.
His three day war has turned into a blood soaked nightmare that has diminished Russia in every demonstrable way and had the entirely opposite effect that he intended. Instead of frightening and splitting his imagined "enemies" he's brought most of them even closer and encouraged them to strengthen their own armies.
By floundering so badly in Ukraine he's made his chances of future success in any conventional conflict that much poorer. | |
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| The Donald on 10:19 - Nov 12 with 285 views | controversial_jack |
| The Donald on 19:08 - Nov 11 by SullutaCreturned |
That's not what concerns me, my issue is with appeasing hin now and giving him the idea he can get away with more.
It won't take that long to churn out more materiel and while that's happening he can draft and train more troops.
He has to be shown in very certain terms that we will not stand for it. |
It doesn't matter if we appease him or not, he is going to achieve his aims one way or other. The best equipment and training NATO has given the Ukraine has been countered. There is nothing we can do about the outcome except prolong it | | | |
| The Donald on 12:09 - Nov 12 with 251 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The Donald on 10:18 - Nov 10 by controversial_jack |
It was Rumsfeldt who was behind the war In the middle east, but Tony B Liar was complicit. |
Poor David Kelly. The man than was burdened by facts and good intelligence. He briefed the BBC and was outed by someone and forced to answer to a group a calling MP cowards. Old and frail worried about his pension he was unable to slap them down.
What would have happened if he faced up and told them they were cowards I wonder sometimes. He was one man against the Western World with friends disappearing to the hills.
BBC had to apologise for telling the truth the chairman forced to resign and Kelly was found in a ditch. |  |
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| The Donald on 12:32 - Nov 12 with 237 views | Boundy |
The American involvement was over 10 years , with the fighting in a totally different environments so no comparison .How about the Afghan war against the USSR in the 80's , another arras kicking . | |
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| The Donald on 12:35 - Nov 12 with 236 views | Boundy |
| The Donald on 09:27 - Nov 11 by Scotia |
It totally depends on the cost of that peace to the rest of the world.
Ukraine could be at peace tomorrow if they surrended. |
Why should Ukraine surrender, why not Russia ? Ukraine weren't the aggressor and if Russia wins do you think that will be the end of his land grab , most experts don't think so and I tend to agree with them . | |
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