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Labour MPs 17:40 - Oct 27 with 4231 viewspencoedjack

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6244gk9d4po

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This fella & Ricky Jones an embarrassment to the country
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Labour MPs on 20:32 - Nov 7 with 778 viewsmajorraglan

Labour MPs on 20:26 - Nov 7 by Dr_Winston

He's currently out on bail apparently.


That’s a surprise, not seen that anywhere. I know that his defence team had to supply a defence statement by the middle of October, but not the bail bit. If he’s had bail, it’s been given by a Crown Court judge.
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Labour MPs on 20:34 - Nov 7 with 774 viewsmajorraglan

Labour MPs on 20:14 - Nov 7 by onehunglow

Sorry,which Liverpool MP?


Amesbury?
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Labour MPs on 20:45 - Nov 7 with 757 viewsonehunglow

Labour MPs on 20:34 - Nov 7 by majorraglan

Amesbury?


MP for Runcorn and Frodsham

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Labour MPs on 21:12 - Nov 7 with 747 viewsBoundy

Labour MPs on 20:45 - Nov 7 by onehunglow

MP for Runcorn and Frodsham


Neither in Liverpool ? , I know Frodsham so unless its been moved

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Labour MPs on 09:08 - Nov 8 with 667 viewsAnotherJohn

Labour MPs on 20:26 - Nov 7 by Dr_Winston

He's currently out on bail apparently.


A Google search returns very little info on Mr Jones' bail, which must have been granted in October. All I have found so far is an FOI request and delaying response. Is it fair to infer that the media has been discouraged from publicising the grant of bail?


OFFICIAL


Data Rights

PO Box 313
Sidcup
DA15 0HH

Email: xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx

www.met.police.uk

Your ref:
Our ref: 01/FOI/24/040934/Z

24/10/2024



Dear J Graham

Freedom of Information Act 2000 Acknowledgement - Reference:
01/FOI/24/040934/Z

I write in connection with your request for information which was received by the
Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 23/10/2024. I note you seek access to the
following information:

I am writing to request information under the Freedom of Information Act
regarding the recent case involving Councillor Ricky Jones, a member of the
Labour Party, who has been released on bail following his controversial
comments suggesting that "throats should be cut."

Specifically, I would like to obtain the following information:

Details regarding the circumstances of Ricky Jones' arrest and subsequent
release on bail, including any conditions attached to his bail.

Any documentation or reports related to the decision to grant bail, including
the rationale behind this decision.

Information on any similar cases within the same timeframe, particularly
concerning individuals arrested and charged for less severe offences who
were not granted bail.

I believe this information is in the public interest, given the serious nature of
the statements made by Councillor Jones and the apparent disparity in the
treatment of different individuals in similar legal situations.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your prompt
response.

MP02/24
OFFICIAL



OFFICIAL
Your request will now be considered in accordance with the Freedom of Information
Act 2000 (the Act). You will receive a response within the statutory timescale of 20
working days as defined by the Act.

Due to an increase in the volume of work received by Data Rights we regret to inform
you that we have fallen behind in our processing and are experiencing delays.

We can assure you we are working as fast as we can to process your request and
we are looking into ways to increase our staffing to accommodate the increase of
work received by the MPS.

If you have any further enquiries concerning this matter, please contact us at
xxxxxxxxxx@xxx.xxxxxx.xx, quoting the reference number above. Should your
enquiry relate to the logging or allocations process we will be able to assist you
directly and where your enquiry relates to other matters (such as the status of the
request) we will be able to pass on a message and/or advise you of the relevant
contact details.

Yours sincerely


Data Rights
MP02/24
OFFICIAL
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Labour MPs on 09:16 - Nov 8 with 662 viewsAnotherJohn

Re Ricky Jones, an AI search on bail just says: "He is scheduled to return to court for a bail application on a date that has yet to be set". This seems to be out of date. So not a lot on the web.
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Labour MPs on 10:10 - Nov 8 with 640 viewsBoundy

No real surprises here except there are no real surprises.

" The government chose the immediate aftermath of the US election to release a list of ministers’ interests that demonstrates how wedded they are to the unions.

The 76-page document covers all 111 ministers and reveals no less than 100 are members of at least one trade union. That means nine in ten members of the government belong to a union.

Ministers’ most popular union was GMB with 56 members, followed by Unite with 31, Unison with 27, Community with 24 and USDAW with 20.

Commentators pointed out not one is a member of the National Farming Union, however.

Notable exceptions include Jess Phillips, junior minister in the Home Office, despite her singing unions’ praises in the Guardian and on Twitter.

Another is Luke Pollard, a Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State in the MoD.

The Labour MP for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport curiously has no trade union memberships listed despite claiming: “I am proud to be a Trade Union backed Member of Parliament, and a member of the GMB and Unite the Union” on his website, dated January 2024.

Lord Timpson, Minister of State in the Ministry of Justice, is another one of ten government members not in a union, as is Jim McMahon OBE, Minister of State in the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government, though he has called for “a strong role for our trade unions.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

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Labour MPs on 16:24 - Nov 8 with 557 viewsmajorraglan

Labour MPs on 10:10 - Nov 8 by Boundy

No real surprises here except there are no real surprises.

" The government chose the immediate aftermath of the US election to release a list of ministers’ interests that demonstrates how wedded they are to the unions.

The 76-page document covers all 111 ministers and reveals no less than 100 are members of at least one trade union. That means nine in ten members of the government belong to a union.

Ministers’ most popular union was GMB with 56 members, followed by Unite with 31, Unison with 27, Community with 24 and USDAW with 20.

Commentators pointed out not one is a member of the National Farming Union, however.

Notable exceptions include Jess Phillips, junior minister in the Home Office, despite her singing unions’ praises in the Guardian and on Twitter.

Another is Luke Pollard, a Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State in the MoD.

The Labour MP for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport curiously has no trade union memberships listed despite claiming: “I am proud to be a Trade Union backed Member of Parliament, and a member of the GMB and Unite the Union” on his website, dated January 2024.

Lord Timpson, Minister of State in the Ministry of Justice, is another one of ten government members not in a union, as is Jim McMahon OBE, Minister of State in the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government, though he has called for “a strong role for our trade unions.


At least the document had been published and we have done transparency about who and what.

The last government failed to disclose gifts, interests etc for government ministers between November 23 and when they were voted out in July. No info on freebies, gifts, etc etc, and no transparency.
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Labour MPs on 22:11 - Nov 8 with 496 viewsDr_Winston

Of course Labour are in hock to the trade unions. It's their entire reason for existing, just like the Tories exist to support those with a bit of cash or who want a bit of cash and Plaid Cymru exist to support those who smell a bit funny and hate anyone who doesn't live on the same side of the street as they do.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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Labour MPs on 23:20 - Nov 8 with 470 viewsScotia

Labour MPs on 10:10 - Nov 8 by Boundy

No real surprises here except there are no real surprises.

" The government chose the immediate aftermath of the US election to release a list of ministers’ interests that demonstrates how wedded they are to the unions.

The 76-page document covers all 111 ministers and reveals no less than 100 are members of at least one trade union. That means nine in ten members of the government belong to a union.

Ministers’ most popular union was GMB with 56 members, followed by Unite with 31, Unison with 27, Community with 24 and USDAW with 20.

Commentators pointed out not one is a member of the National Farming Union, however.

Notable exceptions include Jess Phillips, junior minister in the Home Office, despite her singing unions’ praises in the Guardian and on Twitter.

Another is Luke Pollard, a Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State in the MoD.

The Labour MP for Plymouth Sutton and Devonport curiously has no trade union memberships listed despite claiming: “I am proud to be a Trade Union backed Member of Parliament, and a member of the GMB and Unite the Union” on his website, dated January 2024.

Lord Timpson, Minister of State in the Ministry of Justice, is another one of ten government members not in a union, as is Jim McMahon OBE, Minister of State in the Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government, though he has called for “a strong role for our trade unions.


Not sure where this is from but it just sounds like rabble raising right wing propaganda.

Trade unions fund the Labour party, they are hugely interlinked

I don't think the government have chosen to release this at any particular time, whoever published it has though. So they can say " the government chose the immediate afternoon etc"
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Labour MPs on 18:14 - Nov 9 with 374 viewsSullutaCreturned

Labour MPs on 22:11 - Nov 8 by Dr_Winston

Of course Labour are in hock to the trade unions. It's their entire reason for existing, just like the Tories exist to support those with a bit of cash or who want a bit of cash and Plaid Cymru exist to support those who smell a bit funny and hate anyone who doesn't live on the same side of the street as they do.


For balance you need to tell us who the LibDems and Reform hate...
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Labour MPs on 18:27 - Nov 9 with 368 viewsAnotherJohn

Labour MPs on 18:14 - Nov 9 by SullutaCreturned

For balance you need to tell us who the LibDems and Reform hate...


Probably each other - the woke vs the wright.
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Labour MPs on 19:26 - Nov 9 with 346 viewsSullutaCreturned

Labour MPs on 18:27 - Nov 9 by AnotherJohn

Probably each other - the woke vs the wright.


LD's hate anybody who isn't woke PC, Reform hate those who are not born'n'bred in these fair isles and isn't pure as the driven snow, colourwise.

Between them both they hate everybody.

OK that isn't entirely true but it's close enough.
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Labour MPs on 10:30 - Nov 10 with 278 viewscontroversial_jack

Labour MPs on 19:26 - Nov 9 by SullutaCreturned

LD's hate anybody who isn't woke PC, Reform hate those who are not born'n'bred in these fair isles and isn't pure as the driven snow, colourwise.

Between them both they hate everybody.

OK that isn't entirely true but it's close enough.


Reform, the workers party that voted against workers rights?
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Labour MPs on 10:41 - Nov 10 with 259 viewsAnotherJohn

Labour MPs on 10:30 - Nov 10 by controversial_jack

Reform, the workers party that voted against workers rights?


The red rentier? Given Contro's interest in Russian history, he should read up on the fate of the kulaks.

Potted definition from Wiki for anybody interested: "kulak became a vague reference to property ownership among peasants who were considered hesitant allies of the Bolshevik Revolution." The kulaks did not fare well when the Soviets brought in a policy of de-kulakisation" from around 1929.
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Labour MPs on 10:45 - Nov 10 with 255 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Labour MPs on 10:30 - Nov 10 by controversial_jack

Reform, the workers party that voted against workers rights?


Have they ever positioned themselves as the party of workers rights though?

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Labour MPs on 11:01 - Nov 10 with 234 viewsJACKMANANDBOY

Labour MPs on 10:41 - Nov 10 by AnotherJohn

The red rentier? Given Contro's interest in Russian history, he should read up on the fate of the kulaks.

Potted definition from Wiki for anybody interested: "kulak became a vague reference to property ownership among peasants who were considered hesitant allies of the Bolshevik Revolution." The kulaks did not fare well when the Soviets brought in a policy of de-kulakisation" from around 1929.


It seems perverse that you can execute an estimated 400,000 for being 'wealthy peasants'.

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Labour MPs on 11:11 - Nov 10 with 230 viewscontroversial_jack

Labour MPs on 10:41 - Nov 10 by AnotherJohn

The red rentier? Given Contro's interest in Russian history, he should read up on the fate of the kulaks.

Potted definition from Wiki for anybody interested: "kulak became a vague reference to property ownership among peasants who were considered hesitant allies of the Bolshevik Revolution." The kulaks did not fare well when the Soviets brought in a policy of de-kulakisation" from around 1929.


I've never stated Russia was utopia, It has been a brutal country in the past, but is that any different to this country. Industrial workers in the cities didn't exactly have in easy. Shipping off petty criminals to outposts of the empire. The treatment of the Irish during the famine. Tens of millions died In India. Let's not forget our war against the Boers or the Zulus.Let's get things in perspective here
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Labour MPs on 13:24 - Nov 10 with 195 viewsAnotherJohn

Labour MPs on 11:11 - Nov 10 by controversial_jack

I've never stated Russia was utopia, It has been a brutal country in the past, but is that any different to this country. Industrial workers in the cities didn't exactly have in easy. Shipping off petty criminals to outposts of the empire. The treatment of the Irish during the famine. Tens of millions died In India. Let's not forget our war against the Boers or the Zulus.Let's get things in perspective here


All I am saying is that back in the day people like yourself, with two or three private dwellings to rent out, may not have had a great life expectation.
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