| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? 10:00 - Oct 27 with 2851 views | SwansIndependent |
 Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? 27th Oct 2024 10:00Our chief football writer Trystan Bending returns and asks more questions. Today he examines those players who Luke Williams chooses to ignore, and in the main has done so since his arrival in January. Yes, some have been injured but that’s not the full story.  1
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:11 - Oct 28 with 852 views | vetchonian |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 19:36 - Oct 27 by Dr_Winston |
Do I think this squad is as strong as those available to Potter, Cooper and Martin? No, I don't. I think all three had plenty of good players available to them, players good enough to challenge at the top end. Cooper probably did the best of the three, albeit without having to deal with the disruptions that Potter did. Martin had no such excuses. His failure was catastrophic and entirely self inflicted.
Duff? Didn't do a great job. Nowhere near as bad as some will claim though. Mostly hamstrung by his refusal to bullshit the support. Maybe if he'd have kissed as much arse as his predecessor he'd have bought enough time to make things work, but now we'll never know.
As for Williams, I didn't want him in the first place. Too close in style to Russy. Nowhere near enough achievement elsewhere. He's come in and delivered precious little, showing only the same innate tendency to try and convince people that's down to anything else other than him.
Is his squad playoff quality? No, in all likelihood it isn't. Is it better than we're seeing? I would say so. Too many players whose performances have regressed over the last ten months. [Post edited 27 Oct 20:36]
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Had Martinez,Rodgers,Cooper achieved much before coming here managerial wise.....i know Cooper won the u17 world cup but with kids! | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:18 - Oct 28 with 826 views | vetchonian |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 20:54 - Oct 27 by SullutaCreturned |
Ohnhe defonitely has a worse squad and yes, we have long agreed about Martin.
Williams is cast from the same mould as Martin though, it seems. |
i hear all if this stuff about Williams and his similarities to Martin in stubbornness to keeping to playong his way...yet at Notts County he set up 3-4-2-1...differently to his approach here...though he does look to push the full backs up.
Maybe folks would prefer we went more direct?
We have list to injury a player in Eom who could make a difference...Vip is only just settling in Im sure withba few more games his scoring will come and confidence too.
I would be more worried if we were not creating chances. | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:21 - Oct 28 with 814 views | onehunglow |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:18 - Oct 28 by vetchonian |
i hear all if this stuff about Williams and his similarities to Martin in stubbornness to keeping to playong his way...yet at Notts County he set up 3-4-2-1...differently to his approach here...though he does look to push the full backs up.
Maybe folks would prefer we went more direct?
We have list to injury a player in Eom who could make a difference...Vip is only just settling in Im sure withba few more games his scoring will come and confidence too.
I would be more worried if we were not creating chances. |
Well yes,more direct
Like this
Captain has ball at his feet 20 yards out.
Instead of passing it sideways or backwards ,pass it forward into the box and ina manner that gives our striker a chance .
Then,practise corners so that they are meaningful and not going through motions .
Tymon is now another who has been instructed to pass it backwards when he is a decent crosser of a ball ,or at least he was.
Williams is ruining our players ,mediocre as they might be . | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:40 - Oct 28 with 776 views | vetchonian |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:21 - Oct 28 by onehunglow |
Well yes,more direct
Like this
Captain has ball at his feet 20 yards out.
Instead of passing it sideways or backwards ,pass it forward into the box and ina manner that gives our striker a chance .
Then,practise corners so that they are meaningful and not going through motions .
Tymon is now another who has been instructed to pass it backwards when he is a decent crosser of a ball ,or at least he was.
Williams is ruining our players ,mediocre as they might be . |
Our corners were a little more inventive on Saturday.....and yes I agree Grimes could do more about getting the ball forwards...sometimes his lack of a right foot prevents that as he has to turn to postion himslef to use his left..so maybe its time Luke rested him and tried Franco there with eothet Peart Harris or Abdullai ahead of him. | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:44 - Oct 28 with 764 views | onehunglow |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:40 - Oct 28 by vetchonian |
Our corners were a little more inventive on Saturday.....and yes I agree Grimes could do more about getting the ball forwards...sometimes his lack of a right foot prevents that as he has to turn to postion himslef to use his left..so maybe its time Luke rested him and tried Franco there with eothet Peart Harris or Abdullai ahead of him. |
Morning,
As I say,the time has come. We are now is dire straights . Williams looks lost. He sounds forlorn . He is not motivating .
Grimes has been a terrific pro but he needs time out NOW. I doubt he would sulk and would support the lads . It’s not fair on him to build the whole team around him .
Franco ,I thought,was unbelievable . He gets whacked then gets back into it . The most in Portuguese player ever . Most are head working ,diving,screaming cheats . His efforts led to the biggest roar of the afternoon .
And he gets subbed | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:45 - Oct 28 with 767 views | Whiterockin |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:21 - Oct 28 by onehunglow |
Well yes,more direct
Like this
Captain has ball at his feet 20 yards out.
Instead of passing it sideways or backwards ,pass it forward into the box and ina manner that gives our striker a chance .
Then,practise corners so that they are meaningful and not going through motions .
Tymon is now another who has been instructed to pass it backwards when he is a decent crosser of a ball ,or at least he was.
Williams is ruining our players ,mediocre as they might be . |
There was nothing wrong with the corners on Saturday. We varied the taker, angle of delivery and where it was played too. The corners in the main were excellent. |  | | |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:47 - Oct 28 with 760 views | onehunglow |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:45 - Oct 28 by Whiterockin |
There was nothing wrong with the corners on Saturday. We varied the taker, angle of delivery and where it was played too. The corners in the main were excellent. |
They are better but not excellent at all.
That said,one of those that was good went straight to Cullen . Nuff said | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 14:55 - Oct 28 with 688 views | ncswan |
I stated the following outside of the Foum: "Williams is sending a message to the Swans Academy that he has more confidence in other club's training and personnel than Swansea's Academy Program's. That is so sad! If the current owners really want to cut costs, then just get rid of the Academy, its coaches, players, and other support persons, and just look to the market for players."
I should have added to my last sentence by saying, ...because very seldom are academy players given senior team opportunities, so why have the program? Why put money into a program if the senior team manager keeps ignoring the potential talent he has on hand?
Luke, just give the youngsters 1st team opportunities. Parker, Nzingo, Govea, Wilson, Lloyd, Lissah. Try playing Abdulai more centrally because he's not a wingback. | | | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 14:59 - Oct 28 with 684 views | hobo |
Parker and Wilson have been injured. I'm sure Govea has as well? Nzingo has only recently made a mark on the U21s. I'm sure they'll be given a go if they keey performing |  | | |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 17:37 - Oct 28 with 594 views | RichardO |
Hopefully Parker is over any injury issues, Williams has been very sensible in dealing with injuries not rushing injury hit players back in to action.
Last season a tenacious Parker was given a lot of quick possession and caused a lot of problems, in one game he was up against a good fullback and he even caused him problems winning a good field position and a number of corners one of which we scored from. The game he struggled in was when Abdulai played rightback and although he had a good game did not supply quick ball to Parker choosing to move forward into the space which the team had worked instead of getting the ball away quick enough. While making good ground ran into congestion in the way we have seen Cooper, Tymon, Walsh and more recently Key if you close the spaces you end up with congested areas and don't allow the wing to take advantage of taking balls while travelling at pace.
Hope Parker return is not affected by slow ball into him. [Post edited 28 Oct 23:41]
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 22:52 - Oct 28 with 503 views | ncswan |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 17:37 - Oct 28 by RichardO |
Hopefully Parker is over any injury issues, Williams has been very sensible in dealing with injuries not rushing injury hit players back in to action.
Last season a tenacious Parker was given a lot of quick possession and caused a lot of problems, in one game he was up against a good fullback and he even caused him problems winning a good field position and a number of corners one of which we scored from. The game he struggled in was when Abdulai played rightback and although he had a good game did not supply quick ball to Parker choosing to move forward into the space which the team had worked instead of getting the ball away quick enough. While making good ground ran into congestion in the way we have seen Cooper, Tymon, Walsh and more recently Key if you close the spaces you end up with congested areas and don't allow the wing to take advantage of taking balls while travelling at pace.
Hope Parker return is not affected by slow ball into him. [Post edited 28 Oct 23:41]
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Yes, Parker had an injury & then got sick, but he should be over his illness. Govea, Nzingo, and Wilson played today vs. Cardiff's U-21. Lost 0-1. | | | |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 06:12 - Oct 29 with 466 views | Whiterockin |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 22:52 - Oct 28 by ncswan |
Yes, Parker had an injury & then got sick, but he should be over his illness. Govea, Nzingo, and Wilson played today vs. Cardiff's U-21. Lost 0-1. |
It's a strange one with Wilson who I feel is closest to a first team call up. Played the first 45 minutes last game and second 45 minutes yesterday, not ready for a full u21s game yet? Could they be monitorering his recovery from injury very carefully and he is not up to full match fitness yet. | | | |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 08:33 - Oct 29 with 443 views | RichardO |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 06:12 - Oct 29 by Whiterockin |
It's a strange one with Wilson who I feel is closest to a first team call up. Played the first 45 minutes last game and second 45 minutes yesterday, not ready for a full u21s game yet? Could they be monitorering his recovery from injury very carefully and he is not up to full match fitness yet. |
Haven't seen a lot of the U21s but it does seem as the team changes regularly from game to game which while giving a number of players development time does it stops that building of relationships on the field between players, that understanding between players that make the team click rather than a team whose performances and results are very erratic. Yes players need game time and injuries need to be dealt with properly but is the continuous changing
players mean they are expected to stick to strict playing orders which really stifles different qualities that players can bring to a team in different positions. All for players being ad14aptable getting a better understanding of the game as a whole but don't want some of their unique skills lost. | | | |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 08:57 - Oct 29 with 417 views | Whiterockin |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 08:33 - Oct 29 by RichardO |
Haven't seen a lot of the U21s but it does seem as the team changes regularly from game to game which while giving a number of players development time does it stops that building of relationships on the field between players, that understanding between players that make the team click rather than a team whose performances and results are very erratic. Yes players need game time and injuries need to be dealt with properly but is the continuous changing
players mean they are expected to stick to strict playing orders which really stifles different qualities that players can bring to a team in different positions. All for players being ad14aptable getting a better understanding of the game as a whole but don't want some of their unique skills lost. |
The team only normally changes on availability, injuries ect. Substitutions are as normal around the 60 minute mark onwards unless there is an injury, football is now a multi substitution game. The Wilson situation in the last couple of games is unusual. | | | |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:02 - Oct 29 with 394 views | onehunglow |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 08:57 - Oct 29 by Whiterockin |
The team only normally changes on availability, injuries ect. Substitutions are as normal around the 60 minute mark onwards unless there is an injury, football is now a multi substitution game. The Wilson situation in the last couple of games is unusual. |
Be that as it may, but substitutions often have a detrimental effect and disrupt rather than enhance
Why or why aren’t players left alone .
Franco being subbed weakens us instantly
We lose energy | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:07 - Oct 29 with 380 views | Whiterockin |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:02 - Oct 29 by onehunglow |
Be that as it may, but substitutions often have a detrimental effect and disrupt rather than enhance
Why or why aren’t players left alone .
Franco being subbed weakens us instantly
We lose energy |
We were talking about the u21s. | | | |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:13 - Oct 29 with 359 views | onehunglow |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:07 - Oct 29 by Whiterockin |
We were talking about the u21s. |
I’m talking about football in general
We disagree
Again | |
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| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:16 - Oct 29 with 352 views | Whiterockin |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:13 - Oct 29 by onehunglow |
I’m talking about football in general
We disagree
Again |
I don't see how I disagree with you when we are discussing the u21s on a academy option thread. | | | |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:42 - Oct 29 with 300 views | onehunglow |
| Does Luke Williams trust his academy options ? on 09:16 - Oct 29 by Whiterockin |
I don't see how I disagree with you when we are discussing the u21s on a academy option thread. |
TBH I'd disagree with myself
Frankly, my head is all over the place
Luke oversees it all | |
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