| Releasing prisoners for the army 08:47 - Oct 24 with 3052 views | onehunglow |
I see the Ruskies are giving prisoners the option of fighting on the front line in Ukraine rather than serve prison sentence .
Could this solve OUR prison population problem
I mean ,plenty of “ hard” men inside .
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 17:47 - Oct 28 with 627 views | SullutaCreturned |
Slavery was an ancient institution in Russia and effectively was abolished in the 1720s. Serfdom, which began in 1450, evolved into near-slavery in the eighteenth century and was finally abolished in 1906. Serfdom in its Russian variant could not have existed without the precedent and presence of slavery.
cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-world-history-of-slavery/russian-slavery-and-serfdom-14501804/913BE836084D8FA66B76BFBAADF77BB1 | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 18:09 - Oct 28 with 623 views | AnotherJohn |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 17:47 - Oct 28 by SullutaCreturned |
Slavery was an ancient institution in Russia and effectively was abolished in the 1720s. Serfdom, which began in 1450, evolved into near-slavery in the eighteenth century and was finally abolished in 1906. Serfdom in its Russian variant could not have existed without the precedent and presence of slavery.
cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-world-history-of-slavery/russian-slavery-and-serfdom-14501804/913BE836084D8FA66B76BFBAADF77BB1 |
This seems to me a distinction without an absolute difference. One of the alleged points of difference is that serfs had limited legal rights while slaves did not. However, there was a spectrum of practices in colonial slavery, and also variations in how owners treated slaves. The Berkeley professor Dylan Penningroth argues that in fact many American slave communities recognised property and certain other rights.
https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2024/08/civil-rights-movement-law-s | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 18:33 - Oct 28 with 608 views | controversial_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 17:47 - Oct 28 by SullutaCreturned |
Slavery was an ancient institution in Russia and effectively was abolished in the 1720s. Serfdom, which began in 1450, evolved into near-slavery in the eighteenth century and was finally abolished in 1906. Serfdom in its Russian variant could not have existed without the precedent and presence of slavery.
cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-world-history-of-slavery/russian-slavery-and-serfdom-14501804/913BE836084D8FA66B76BFBAADF77BB1 |
Serfdom wasn't great, but neither was being a slum dweller in Victorian Britain or a child that had to go down the mines to work | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 18:55 - Oct 28 with 605 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 18:33 - Oct 28 by controversial_jack |
Serfdom wasn't great, but neither was being a slum dweller in Victorian Britain or a child that had to go down the mines to work |
What's that got to do with slavery? It's not like conditions were great for poor people in Russia in Victorian times.
Not like you to engage in whataboutery....  | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 09:40 - Oct 29 with 555 views | controversial_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 18:55 - Oct 28 by SullutaCreturned |
What's that got to do with slavery? It's not like conditions were great for poor people in Russia in Victorian times.
Not like you to engage in whataboutery.... |
It's called making comparisons | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 00:10 - Oct 30 with 511 views | DJack |
Oh dear, the future is not as rosy as a certain poster would try to make you believe...
"Russia Can’t Keep Spending Like This for Long
Moscow is depleting its rainy-day savings to plug its war-induced fiscal deficit while preserving social stability."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/10/28/russia-economy-spending-sanctions-budget-wa |  |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 10:13 - Oct 30 with 462 views | controversial_jack |
Wrong! It's factories are working full time and it's order books are full | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 17:32 - Oct 30 with 437 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 09:40 - Oct 29 by controversial_jack |
It's called making comparisons |
Yeah, comparing apples with oranges. It's just more defelction. | | | |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 17:33 - Oct 30 with 434 views | raynor94 |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 10:13 - Oct 30 by controversial_jack |
Wrong! It's factories are working full time and it's order books are full |
Of course, they are wrong and you are right |  |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 18:42 - Oct 30 with 414 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 10:13 - Oct 30 by controversial_jack |
Wrong! It's factories are working full time and it's order books are full |
Of course its order books are full, it's losing a hell of a lot of equipment. Do you have any links to back up what you say? Any proof, actuall proof?
PS, I know, you won't provide any becaause we'll just ridicule the source. To be fair Pravda is quite biased. | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 00:09 - Nov 1 with 324 views | DJack |
Your Reuters article is them regurgitating Russias claims and going with that...
"Moscow now expects gross domestic product (GDP) to climb 3.9% in 2024, up from 2.8% in the forecast it issued in April, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said last week.
They cant even sell their own bonds. As for your second link...
"“Products have slowed down coming into Russia,” says Chris Weafer. “Spare parts are more difficult to access. Every day there are stories of banks in China, Turkey and the Emirates refusing to deal with Russian transactions, whether it’s money from Russia to buy goods or money going back to Russia in payment for oil or other imports. Unless this is resolved, Russia will have a financial crisis by the autumn.”
That’s why it would be wrong to conclude that Russia has beaten sanctions. Up till now it’s found ways of dealing with them, getting around them, reducing the threat from them.
But the pressure on the Russian economy from sanctions hasn’t gone away."
You're not very good at this are you. | |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 08:24 - Nov 1 with 304 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 00:09 - Nov 1 by DJack |
Your Reuters article is them regurgitating Russias claims and going with that...
"Moscow now expects gross domestic product (GDP) to climb 3.9% in 2024, up from 2.8% in the forecast it issued in April, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said last week.
They cant even sell their own bonds. As for your second link...
"“Products have slowed down coming into Russia,” says Chris Weafer. “Spare parts are more difficult to access. Every day there are stories of banks in China, Turkey and the Emirates refusing to deal with Russian transactions, whether it’s money from Russia to buy goods or money going back to Russia in payment for oil or other imports. Unless this is resolved, Russia will have a financial crisis by the autumn.”
That’s why it would be wrong to conclude that Russia has beaten sanctions. Up till now it’s found ways of dealing with them, getting around them, reducing the threat from them.
But the pressure on the Russian economy from sanctions hasn’t gone away."
You're not very good at this are you. |
Unfortunately he believes all Russian properganda is true. He refused to accept any information provided by independent journalists and research bodies. Shocking footage yesterday of Russian drones targeting civilians another war to add to Russis'a long list. | |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 08:37 - Nov 1 with 291 views | Boundy |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 10:13 - Oct 30 by controversial_jack |
Wrong! It's factories are working full time and it's order books are full |
Link please. | |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 11:53 - Nov 1 with 271 views | DJack |
Once again your source highlights your lies...
"According to a March report from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, Russian arms exports to foreign nations dropped by 52% between 2022 and 2023, largely as a consequence of Russian President Vladimir Putin's February 2022 invasion of Ukraine." | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 12:34 - Nov 1 with 255 views | controversial_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 11:53 - Nov 1 by DJack |
Once again your source highlights your lies...
"According to a March report from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, Russian arms exports to foreign nations dropped by 52% between 2022 and 2023, largely as a consequence of Russian President Vladimir Putin's February 2022 invasion of Ukraine." |
I'm not disputing arms exports are down, but they are making more for the domestic market.
Clearly not lies then, just your understanding is questionable | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 13:00 - Nov 1 with 250 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 12:34 - Nov 1 by controversial_jack |
I'm not disputing arms exports are down, but they are making more for the domestic market.
Clearly not lies then, just your understanding is questionable |
Your understanding of the war in Ukraine is clearly questionable.
One one hand you keep telling us Russia is only suffering only minor losses on the other hand you now claim their military exports have crashed as they divert exports to cover losses.
The prison population in Russia has fallen by over 100,000 since the start of the war as Russia uses prisoners to replace soldiers killed in the war. [Post edited 1 Nov 13:02]
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 13:27 - Nov 1 with 243 views | controversial_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 13:00 - Nov 1 by felixstowe_jack |
Your understanding of the war in Ukraine is clearly questionable.
One one hand you keep telling us Russia is only suffering only minor losses on the other hand you now claim their military exports have crashed as they divert exports to cover losses.
The prison population in Russia has fallen by over 100,000 since the start of the war as Russia uses prisoners to replace soldiers killed in the war. [Post edited 1 Nov 13:02]
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Russia has a population of 140 million - twice ours. The US had 550k troops in Vietnam at one point, they weren't raiding the prisons. Generals don't want prisoners to train, they want normal fit disciplined young men. Start using some critical thinking skills for goodness sake | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 16:41 - Nov 1 with 209 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 13:27 - Nov 1 by controversial_jack |
Russia has a population of 140 million - twice ours. The US had 550k troops in Vietnam at one point, they weren't raiding the prisons. Generals don't want prisoners to train, they want normal fit disciplined young men. Start using some critical thinking skills for goodness sake |
Then why is Russia using untrained prisoners offering them freedom after a year if they survive that long.
The murdered leader of the wager group, russia's mercenary force say 50,000 prisoners were recruited for the war in Ukraine with freedom promised if they survived 6 months.
This policy was changed in the last few months new prisoners now have to serve in the army until the end of the war.
That is a sure sign that russia cannot get enough volunteers or trained conscripts to replace thier troop losses.
Try thinking before you post and actually produce independent evidence as well. | |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 16:48 - Nov 1 with 203 views | controversial_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 16:41 - Nov 1 by felixstowe_jack |
Then why is Russia using untrained prisoners offering them freedom after a year if they survive that long.
The murdered leader of the wager group, russia's mercenary force say 50,000 prisoners were recruited for the war in Ukraine with freedom promised if they survived 6 months.
This policy was changed in the last few months new prisoners now have to serve in the army until the end of the war.
That is a sure sign that russia cannot get enough volunteers or trained conscripts to replace thier troop losses.
Try thinking before you post and actually produce independent evidence as well. |
It isn't, is the simple answer. The Wagner group was part of the standard Russian military although it had a large degree of autonomy.
Promised freedom if they survived. Good grief, what a choice. Are you that naive to believe that?
They have plenty of fresh volunteers coming through. Believe it or not, the vast majority of Russians support Putin and the war effort. I know you don't like to hear it, but it's the case | | | |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 16:57 - Nov 1 with 199 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 16:48 - Nov 1 by controversial_jack |
It isn't, is the simple answer. The Wagner group was part of the standard Russian military although it had a large degree of autonomy.
Promised freedom if they survived. Good grief, what a choice. Are you that naive to believe that?
They have plenty of fresh volunteers coming through. Believe it or not, the vast majority of Russians support Putin and the war effort. I know you don't like to hear it, but it's the case |
Only because there is no free press or media in Russia they only get to hear what Putin wants.
Russia are not realising prisoners for any other reason than to fight and die at the front line. | |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 18:22 - Nov 1 with 185 views | onehunglow |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 16:57 - Nov 1 by felixstowe_jack |
Only because there is no free press or media in Russia they only get to hear what Putin wants.
Russia are not realising prisoners for any other reason than to fight and die at the front line. |
It’s well documented Russians love an authoritive leader
Tgeir arrogance as a country ensures the manta Mother Russia will not be disrespected .
The Ukes are doing that ,bless e.
Stalin was very poplar too even though he was quite a cruel chap who dint really like opposition or any dissent
Putin is simply old school | |
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| Releasing prisoners for the army on 20:43 - Nov 1 with 159 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Releasing prisoners for the army on 16:48 - Nov 1 by controversial_jack |
It isn't, is the simple answer. The Wagner group was part of the standard Russian military although it had a large degree of autonomy.
Promised freedom if they survived. Good grief, what a choice. Are you that naive to believe that?
They have plenty of fresh volunteers coming through. Believe it or not, the vast majority of Russians support Putin and the war effort. I know you don't like to hear it, but it's the case |
First line, wrong.
Second line, very wrong but up to your usual standard.
The third bit, yes there are volunteers but...
bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjr3255gpjgo
they are paying a heavy price. Rinat Khusiniaryov, killed afer 3 months and he was 62 years old. The volunteers aren't all fit young men but they are undertrained, inexperienced and little more than fodder. | | | |
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