| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? 08:00 - Oct 16 with 6660 views | SwansIndependent |
 Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? 16th Oct 2024 08:00Swansea City are surrounded with speculation this week. First the agreed departure of Sporting Director, Paul Watson which was decided upon last week, and announced on the Monday. This amid rumours of his departure being abrupt and non conciliatory. The regular failures to build relationships at the Swans within the supposed ‘hierarchy’ - with coaches, employees and managers continues.  0
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:22 - Oct 16 with 1853 views | union_jack |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:06 - Oct 16 by liamW |
Just had some discourse with one of the Twitter few who just can’t leave things alone.
I think the editing and clarity on this report is understandable and easy to understand. Does any of our regulars disagree or agree with this individual.
I thought it was pretty decent without grammar issues. We are always open to feedback, but from what I can see this xxxx has form for this.
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Whatever you do, don’t make reference to ‘the’ Gower with this guy!😂😂 |  |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 20:01 - Oct 16 with 1752 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:22 - Oct 16 by union_jack |
Whatever you do, don’t make reference to ‘the’ Gower with this guy!😂😂 |
Did you know my home town is The Haverfordwest 😂 |  |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 21:47 - Oct 16 with 1610 views | dobjack2 |
In answer to the question at the start hopefully yes. Awful move for the club that the previous regime sold to these people, but they did ok out of it.
Sooner gone the better. Unfortunately I believe if there is a possibility of them going they'll hang around to screw the fans, players and coaches to get the best deal for themselves.
In my opinion they have never given a flying one about the fans or city. As for their ownership it's always smelt like the ownership of the Charlestown Chiefs in slap shot. | | | |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 23:44 - Oct 16 with 1506 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 17:34 - Oct 16 by Whiterockin |
A successful businessman knows when to cut and run. If they stay and continue in the same vein they will have to continually put money in just to stay still at best. I believe they are looking for a way out if possible, standard investment would only dilute their holding, if that was their aim why buy shares earlier this year and dilute the shares of others, it makes no sense. Cut and run and write off your loss against tax in the USA. |
Most of the LLP people have stakes in DC United which in valuation terms has been a huge success. Values at $800m. Losses at Swnsea could offset taxes on gains at DC United if both were sold.
A good deal of anti Americanism on here from the usual suspect.
£26m invested by the US people little debt and they are "hanging around like a bad smell". Some of us Welsh have a very s entitled attitude from years of living in English socialist welfare state. Too many still doff their cap.
I am grateful for the US investment and slag off the Welsh freeloader shareholders who I refuse to name to keep Moderator D happy. |  |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 13:35 - Oct 17 with 1299 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:08 - Oct 16 by EagleEye |
Venture capitalists, Hedge funds, Investment bankers, statistical processes or just one big pyramid scheme ?
I have no confidence that theJanuary window will be any different to the last few seasons. Some of our best players are running their contracts down. Does anyone at the club know anything about the day-to-day running & management of a football business ?
The club is in dangerous territory with the current ownership who have no real interest in the local area or its people |
Please do not post on things you do not understand. I did not know what a hedge fund was before reading about it on this forum about 7-8 years ago. I posted an explanatory YouTube video explaining it.
Pyramid scheme is probably another thing you might not understand. Pyramid schemes are highly illegal. One was run by Bernie Madoff. I watched a documentary on him. He died in prison. You need to understand what you write. There is nothing resembling such crimes at Swansea city as far as I can see.
The old board had venture capitalists. Katzen and the French guy. They sold all their share in 2016. They invested as much money as the fans actually. They wanted to sell their shares and sold all of them for big profits while the less alert owners were asleep or worrying about appearances.
I argue a lot against posts like this. Fans were given a place on the board and ownership position and were and are not up to the job. | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 14:29 - Oct 17 with 1229 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 20:01 - Oct 16 by KeithHaynes |
Did you know my home town is The Haverfordwest 😂 |
And mine is Wirral ,not THE Wirral | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 15:49 - Oct 17 with 1146 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 14:29 - Oct 17 by onehunglow |
And mine is Wirral ,not THE Wirral |
English people go out of their way to misname Welsh places and have now started calling anywhere west of Swansea in the south as "West Wales". BBC Wales started it when it was Dyfed and the English media do not like using Welsh letters. Gwent was widely used but does not include any "foreign letters".
To save English people from pronouncing Dyfed (with a forced v sound) BBC Wales came up with West Wales (equating to Dyfed - Carmarthenshire, Pembrokeshire and Cardiganshire).
It has persisted to today and has been adopted by the locals. Bangor is not in West Wales athough it is in the West of Wales.
The media have decided Welsh places does not need to be identified for UK people in general. | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 16:08 - Oct 17 with 1138 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 15:49 - Oct 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
English people go out of their way to misname Welsh places and have now started calling anywhere west of Swansea in the south as "West Wales". BBC Wales started it when it was Dyfed and the English media do not like using Welsh letters. Gwent was widely used but does not include any "foreign letters".
To save English people from pronouncing Dyfed (with a forced v sound) BBC Wales came up with West Wales (equating to Dyfed - Carmarthenshire, Pembrokeshire and Cardiganshire).
It has persisted to today and has been adopted by the locals. Bangor is not in West Wales athough it is in the West of Wales.
The media have decided Welsh places does not need to be identified for UK people in general. |
What English people ?
Name and shame
My English speaking family do not do anything like you say
Do I punish them as they are English and therefore barbaric attackers of anything Welsh | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 16:18 - Oct 17 with 1121 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 16:08 - Oct 17 by onehunglow |
What English people ?
Name and shame
My English speaking family do not do anything like you say
Do I punish them as they are English and therefore barbaric attackers of anything Welsh |
The London based media in the main. BBC Word service in Turkish calls UK "England" Ingiltere in Turkish. I correct them every time they do it.
Ingiltere come from the French Angletere or 'land of the Angles'. | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 17:56 - Oct 17 with 1030 views | magicdaps10 |
Hopefully the end of Kapland and Levien.
Clueless from the start and not improved, infact I would say have gone backwards in certain aspects.
Hopefully Morris, Morgan and Cravatt become more involved both financially and actively.
Who is the outsider I'm thinking 🤔💭 |  |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 17:59 - Oct 17 with 1021 views | max936 |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 17:56 - Oct 17 by magicdaps10 |
Hopefully the end of Kapland and Levien.
Clueless from the start and not improved, infact I would say have gone backwards in certain aspects.
Hopefully Morris, Morgan and Cravatt become more involved both financially and actively.
Who is the outsider I'm thinking 🤔💭 |
MM won't. |  |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:04 - Oct 17 with 1007 views | EagleEye |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 13:35 - Oct 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Please do not post on things you do not understand. I did not know what a hedge fund was before reading about it on this forum about 7-8 years ago. I posted an explanatory YouTube video explaining it.
Pyramid scheme is probably another thing you might not understand. Pyramid schemes are highly illegal. One was run by Bernie Madoff. I watched a documentary on him. He died in prison. You need to understand what you write. There is nothing resembling such crimes at Swansea city as far as I can see.
The old board had venture capitalists. Katzen and the French guy. They sold all their share in 2016. They invested as much money as the fans actually. They wanted to sell their shares and sold all of them for big profits while the less alert owners were asleep or worrying about appearances.
I argue a lot against posts like this. Fans were given a place on the board and ownership position and were and are not up to the job. |
Meanwhile back in the real world you have nothing to say about our prospects of getting things right in the next transfer window ?
You think it’s ok for the club management to let our best players run down their contracts & leave for free ?
Try looking in the mirror … the stupidity of your continued comments about the Trust are beyond a longstanding joke when they have nothing to do with the subject matter.
What value is Mr Gude adding to the club ?
Try reading what you have written before hitting the ‘Add reply’ button. The benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but you usually even get that wrong |  | | |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:06 - Oct 17 with 999 views | onehunglow |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 16:18 - Oct 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The London based media in the main. BBC Word service in Turkish calls UK "England" Ingiltere in Turkish. I correct them every time they do it.
Ingiltere come from the French Angletere or 'land of the Angles'. |
Names!
Just names
Yikes | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:19 - Oct 17 with 962 views | KeithHaynes |
Well, this set the tongues wagging from the usual reptiles to the inadequate facebookers, and even some regarded it as an informative well researched report.
Always remember we are not here to please anyone. | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:33 - Oct 17 with 934 views | KeithHaynes |
A few people have contacted us and mentioned Giovanni Savarese as a potential investor.
I can’t see it, but he is still heavily involved in coaching. | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:39 - Oct 17 with 915 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:33 - Oct 17 by KeithHaynes |
A few people have contacted us and mentioned Giovanni Savarese as a potential investor.
I can’t see it, but he is still heavily involved in coaching. |
Is he still with Portland Timbers, possible frontman after building up connections? |  | | |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:41 - Oct 17 with 907 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:04 - Oct 17 by EagleEye |
Meanwhile back in the real world you have nothing to say about our prospects of getting things right in the next transfer window ?
You think it’s ok for the club management to let our best players run down their contracts & leave for free ?
Try looking in the mirror … the stupidity of your continued comments about the Trust are beyond a longstanding joke when they have nothing to do with the subject matter.
What value is Mr Gude adding to the club ?
Try reading what you have written before hitting the ‘Add reply’ button. The benefit of hindsight is a wonderful thing but you usually even get that wrong |
Nice deflection. You have talked about Hedge funds and Pyramid schemes. I said you did not understand them. No comment on this tells me I was right.
I stared earlier that the club should have offered them a deal and if refused treat them like they treated Asoro. Tell at least one of them their Swansea career was over.
I do not know what Gude is doing. He could be organizing the new investment. How should I know? Gude should face up and be at the forum. The commercial man was there last time.
Now tell me about you hedge funds and (highly illegal) pyramid schemes quote and how they relate to Swansea city. | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:01 - Oct 17 with 858 views | KeithHaynes |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:39 - Oct 17 by Whiterockin |
Is he still with Portland Timbers, possible frontman after building up connections? |
Well, he’s not working anywhere just now …
Had the pleasure of interviewing him for 442 many years ago.
I’ll try his number 😂 | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:04 - Oct 17 with 846 views | Whiterockin |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:01 - Oct 17 by KeithHaynes |
Well, he’s not working anywhere just now …
Had the pleasure of interviewing him for 442 many years ago.
I’ll try his number 😂 |
Any sense and he will have blocked you  | | | |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:05 - Oct 17 with 845 views | magicdaps10 |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:01 - Oct 17 by KeithHaynes |
Well, he’s not working anywhere just now …
Had the pleasure of interviewing him for 442 many years ago.
I’ll try his number 😂 |
Has in the past done the role of sporting director after checking a week or so back.
As I said at the time, Savarese would tick a lot of boxes and help build the gap between club and fans. | |
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| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 19:15 - Oct 17 with 816 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:41 - Oct 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nice deflection. You have talked about Hedge funds and Pyramid schemes. I said you did not understand them. No comment on this tells me I was right.
I stared earlier that the club should have offered them a deal and if refused treat them like they treated Asoro. Tell at least one of them their Swansea career was over.
I do not know what Gude is doing. He could be organizing the new investment. How should I know? Gude should face up and be at the forum. The commercial man was there last time.
Now tell me about you hedge funds and (highly illegal) pyramid schemes quote and how they relate to Swansea city. |
Asoro wasn't worth a contract, are you seriously suggesting telling one of our better players to sign a contract (whatever it says) or just leave?
That is a stupid suggestion.
The hedge fund is what owns the majority of our club. You'd probably prefer to call them a consortium. They usually want above average returns so I don't know why they invest in football clubs, in the UK anyway., it's a very easy way to lose a lot of money. | | | |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 07:15 - Oct 18 with 522 views | EagleEye |
| Swansea City : Will this lead to the end of Levien & Kaplan ? on 18:41 - Oct 17 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Nice deflection. You have talked about Hedge funds and Pyramid schemes. I said you did not understand them. No comment on this tells me I was right.
I stared earlier that the club should have offered them a deal and if refused treat them like they treated Asoro. Tell at least one of them their Swansea career was over.
I do not know what Gude is doing. He could be organizing the new investment. How should I know? Gude should face up and be at the forum. The commercial man was there last time.
Now tell me about you hedge funds and (highly illegal) pyramid schemes quote and how they relate to Swansea city. |
Deflection ? Oh the irony … | | | |
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